What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?

German papers report of some Lukashenko plan to send them over to Munich with a plane....there seems to be some offer made by Munich to take them in....dunno....

But that of course would against the still ruling gov in Berlin which today repeated in Brussels (german still acting foreign minister Heiko Maas) that they won't take anybody in....so...

Bürgermeister of Munich said they will take them.
Lukashenko said what is your problem send them to Munich.

Some Germans put up a banner in Warsaw - thank you Poland regierung.
The same says German regierung but no money for the wall.

twitter.com/phil_ipp_fritz/status/1460317491926814723

Now let's see....

Germany needs time to sort out the mess that Merkel has created and when a solution is found Germany always over-delivers. Merkel is almost gone and it isn't clear if her successors will continue this madness or are looking for a compromise.

But they are German-slow which means it will take another 4, 8 or more years until Germany will have a proper position on modern mass migration of peoples. It is largely a consequence of WW2 and education that is currently overshooting the target by miles.

And those people with the banner? I think they are going to be even more unhappy than the rest how this ****** poker game will work out.

Poland certainly would not secure the EU border for Germany, get lambasted and embargoed for it and not see a silver lining that in the end we will have achieved a moral victory. Otherwise we could just let the Iraqis pass through to Germany. Sanity is required and a clear position who is allowed to cross which borders and which not that even people in the Near East understand. If Poland can handle this alone in a proper manner, without support, it will mean Poland has taken a big step to becoming a country that has a say in foreign policy.

EU finally decided to impose more sanctions on Belarus.Iraqi govt has arranged to fly backs its citizens but Belarus cops will not let anyone go back from the border to take flights,next 2/3 days will be crucial to watch.

dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-10204543/Iraq-start-repatriating-citizens-Belarus-Thursday-ministry.html

Talk between Merkel and Lukashenko confirmed by the german gov.....

twitter.com/phil_ipp_fritz/status/1460325110863249415/photo/1

It's good to see more international involvment in all this, including the efforts of the German Chancellor.

lol Polish soldiers Tinder profiles are showing up in Belarus:
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belarus-poland-border-tinder-troops-b1957953.html

theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/15/nato-chief-warns-russia-against-further-provocation-amid-ukraine-tensions


What if Russia uses that migrant bruhaha for a covert action against Ukraine? Then Lukashenko would make certain sense...for Putin....

trtworld.com/europe/poland-to-begin-building-wall-along-border-with-belarus-in-december-51677

Poland has decided to start building a wall along its border with Belarus in December and complete the work in the first half of next year, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

"The undertaking which we must carry out is absolutely strategic and priority investment for security of the nation and its citizens," Interior Minister Mariusz Kaminski said on Monday.

The ministry said the contracts would be signed by December 15 and work on the border wall itself would begin later in the month, with builders working 24 hours a day on three shifts.

The wall will cost an estimated $407 million and is planned to stretch 180 kilometres, around half the total length of the Poland-Belarus border.

Parliament gave its go-ahead for the wall last month.

Best decision 👍

Yet when Trump tried to build one on our border you Eurps mocked us.
You only have thousands, we have millions that want in.

It will have to cover a big stretch of the Ukrainian border as well...

Not me!

But I fear the same people mocking you for the wall are the same who would now rather import these migrants instead of building a nice stable and high wall....


.....not to forget preparing a bill for Brussels!

Experts suggest that PIS` ban on journalist coverage at the border is harmful to Polish interests coz the Bel regime can spew their manipulative propaganda freely.

Ban ?
Today I read news about Poland's border on at least five or six news sources.
CNN, BBC, MSN, Al Jazeera, ABC, and others.
There were at least six different video's of Poland's crisis at the border on American t.v. today.
So I don't understand of any such ban on journalists.

That's all we can do, since the increased sanctions from some EU memeber states will likely worsen the situation.


The suicide bomber in Liverpool was by the way a practising protestant Christian...

That is questionable spin you put on it, jon.
The 32-year-old Syrian refugee's murderous mission was thwarted by heroic cabbie David Perry, who is said to have locked him in the vehicle as he detonated his home-made device.

Al Swealmeen is believed to have had mental health problems and according to pals had been sectioned for brandishing a knife in the city centre before launching his death bid.

And it was tonight reported his intended Remembrance Day target was church-goers who helped him convert from Islam to Christianity.
BUT....did he really convert OR was it just a front to pull off his attack ?

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/liverpool-bomber-wanted-cause-maximum-25466756

This is why I call you, "Slippery jon the propagandist".

The converted are the worst.....the most bigoted!

Just read....about 100 illegals make it through Poland into Brandenburg every day. Between them about 70% Iraqis, the rest Syrians, Afghans, Jemenits, Iranians, Turks and north Africans.

In September came 1300 people, in October 2700, for November already 800...

nzz.ch/international/migration-aus-weissrussland-an-der-deutsch-polnischen-grenze-ld.1654978

Stones have been thrown, with water it has been answered

How much of a budget loss does that represent? 4800 people who will most likely never give back anything to the system that 'saved' them....

What services will German taxpayers be deprived of in order to maintain the pretense that the new arrivals are anything but a financial and social burden?

Some migrants telling their story:

There will be far more this month. There would be even more had Lithuania not been handling the issue well on their border.


No 'spin'. He was a devout and observant protestant.

Well, they are about 260 km from me. I think that should shoot few agressive idiots. That would end it. Otherwise this is going to be a long story.


Where they came from on the Polish land? Mostly from Lithuania. At least untill recently.
Hadling well? You mean they have no usful idiots and Putin helpers? There are lot of them in Poland mostly from PO.

Are you really going to try to play that card? ..... really?

Because...

express.co.uk/news/world/632806/ISIS-guide-tells-UK-jihadis-lose-beard-ditch-mosque-and-wear-cross-before-killing

It will be interesting to see how many of his fellow devout and observant protestant brethren have also been arrested...

They are idiots. His house looks better than houses of many Poles in Poland. I don;t know they look in Germany without language or some needed skills.

All that happening because of Merkel - all victims and blood is on her hands. Once again Germany and their subtle touch won the day.

That would doubtless lead to criminal charges, and rightly so.


Within PiS and their circle there is no shortage of individuals who have long-standing links with Russia.


The four men arrested in Liverpool have been released without charge.

You should be shoot too!

The current situation at the border. Today's trouble could have been worse, although unfortunately a Polish soldier was seriously injured:
twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1460539401210114048

@jon357
Rumour has it it was a policewomen, and that counterterrorists are on their way. It seems to turn really bad now

Yes. The news report I just saw said police officer. Fractured skull; I hope she'll be ok.


Yes. The Belarus side are really escalating things. Tadeusz Giczan did say on twitter about an hour ago that it could have been worse than it was. So far, the Polish side have dealt with it relatively well. I worry about whatever Lukashenka is planning next.