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Poland's PiS party members and crime


Ironside 42 | 7,695    
2 Mar 2017  #271

wait a second - so you claim

He claims nothing. He is only heckling PiS.


OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
2 Mar 2017  #272

Isn't it funny how the mouthpiece for PiS on this forum is strangely quiet about this snitch being outed?

Isn't it also funny how our PiS supporters here are trying to drive the topic away from the topic, which is that the husband of the (illegitimate) President of the Constitutional Tribunal cooperated with the Communist security services?
Harry 67 | 12,873    
2 Mar 2017  #273

How about make public names and faces all snitches, prominent beneficiary of the commie regime? All of them!

If the list was complete and accurate, I'd support that.

One wonders why Polonius hasn't shown up yet to denounce this snitch.

I must say that I'm not wondering at all. I doubt anybody who has read his work is.

It's mysterious that some workers were able to gain luxury (for that time) accomodation in a wealthy part of Warsaw, while other workers were living in tiny cramped accommodation.

Yep, hard working Poles lived in shoe boxes while people you'd expect to be less favoured by the Party, such as former AK soldiers and citizens of countries Poland was in a cold war with, lived in grace-and-favour villas.

judge Andrzej Rzepliński

There is no such person.
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
2 Mar 2017  #274

If the list was complete and accurate, I'd support that.

Likewise. It would probably decimate the political classes in Poland, but that would be no bad thing. Certainly the current government would lose badly once it was revealed just how deep their links are with the PZPR and how many of them had privileged upbringings as a result of their nomeklatura status.

Yep, hard working Poles lived in shoe boxes while people you'd expect to be less favoured by the Party, such as former AK soldiers and citizens of countries Poland was in a cold war with, lived in grace-and-favour villas.

Yes, it's all very strange, isn't it? Revealing all of this would certainly provide us with the answers as to how some AK soldiers found themselves tortured and oppressed (or worse) by the regime, while some just so coincidentally happened to have a stellar career that was rewarded with a comfortable lifestyle for them and their children.

But let's not go off-topic here. Polonius, Polonius, can you explain to us why it's acceptable for PiS to have a snitch serving as ambassador to Germany and for his wife to serve as the President of the Constitutional Tribunal?
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
5 Mar 2017  #275

As the main parrot of Dziennik Telewizyjny appears to have gone quiet on this thread, I think I'll just post another link about the PRL-era snitch and current PiS-appointed ambassador to Germany, Andrzej Przyłębski.

Personal file of "Wolfgang", AKA Andrew Przyłębski was released on Friday. The documents cover the years 1979-1980. They show that TW "Wolfgang" "was recruited for cooperation June 11, 1979". As reported, in order to "ensure the flow of operational information regarding demonstrations of anti-socialist activity in the student environment in Poznan."

wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1342,title,Szef-gabinetu-prezydenta-Adam-Kwiatkowski-ws-Andrzeja-Przylebskiego-poczekajmy-na-decyzje-IPN,wid,18718086,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=118bd0

Perhaps one of the other rabid PiS supporters on this forum can provide us with a justification as to why a snitch should remain in such a high profile position?
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
6 Mar 2017  #276

Still silence from DT's favourite correspondent, despite Jolanta Szczypińska from PIS openly criticising the situation.

Clearly the silence can be taken as acceptance of an SB snitch in the MSZ.
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
16 Mar 2017  #277

Seeing as PF's Chief Propagandist is silent, Radio Poland has reported on yet another snitch in the employ of PiS.

On Thursday, public broadcaster TVP reported that according to records found at the Warsaw-based Institute of National Remembrance (IPN), out of the seven members of the board of the Solidarity trade union branch of the foreign ministry.. one is a former collaborator of the communist authorities.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/298145,Foreign-ministry-shakeup-meets-opposition-from-union
Harry 67 | 12,873    
17 Mar 2017  #278

Perhaps one of the other rabid PiS supporters on this forum can provide us with a justification as to why a snitch should remain in such a high profile position?

I'm certainly not a rabid PiS supporter, but the reason that particular SB snitch has kept his job is that he is very loyal to the person of The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski, and so his sins are forgiven.

Or perhaps Polly can provide an alternative explanation?

Radio Poland has reported on yet another snitch in the employ of PiS.

Given that Radio Poland is now really just Radio PiSlamic State, that case must be beyond debate. Not that anything will change following the announcement, Solidarnosc's leadership are now very much in PIS's pocket and personally loyal to The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski.
Ironside 42 | 7,695    
17 Mar 2017  #279

but the reason that particular SB snitch has

Why you worry about some small fry just because they are in PiS. PO has been created by big time operatives and there are lots of SB snitches on top appointments left, right and centre, in the pats and at the present.

Never heard you uttering a word about those facts.
How about German gov. founding PO - that is an interning issue in progress. Also nothing from you.
in conclusion it is clear that you don't care if someone has been SB snitch, Hitler or Pol-Pot himself as long as such a person support PO or generality speaking commies, progressives. Why don't you jump off that high horse of moral indignation. You're faking it!
Polonius3 988 | 11,719    
18 Mar 2017  #280

Isn't it funny

Isn't it funny how the very same people who claim "there is no collective guilt" change theri tune when a relative or spouse of a currentn official (Przyłębska) is lambasted for collaboration, but the same accusers are silent about the real estate scamster (Waltz) whose wife is the Heinous Hanna. Or how someone's father can serve hsitory's greatest tyrant Stalin but never be mentioed because his son is the notorious chief of the Kosher Courier. Or how Piotrowicz can be attacked but not the 30 PO MPs who were either PZPR members or TW snitches. THAT'S CALLED H Y P O C R I S Y!
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
18 Mar 2017  #281

snitches

Tell us more about the snitch in Berlin, appointed by PiS, why don't you?
Polonius3 988 | 11,719    
18 Mar 2017  #282

appointed by PiS

Why obsess about PiS when they have far fewer TWs and ex-PZPR types in their ranks. Go to where the concnetration is gretaest -- PO and SLD.

And you're constant PiS-bashing, being upset about Trump and Brexit all has to do with results. Go to the source and exlain why people voted the way they did? Unless yoiu do you'll contiue p*ssing in the wind!
jon357 55 | 10,801    
18 Mar 2017  #283

the snitch in Berlin, appointed by PiS, why don't you?

That's quite a worry
Polonius3 988 | 11,719    
18 Mar 2017  #284

why don't you

The information is on the net. You have an exaggeratred sense of my importance if you think I have an inside line of the news. I doubt whether his past was known when he was appointed, But any country's ambassador is a small fry compared to a PM and European Council leader (Tusk) accused of being a Stasi TW (code-named Oskar). Or a former Polish president (Komorowski) was TW Litwin. And what about Nobel Peace laureate TW Bolek ('Wałęsa). If it wasn't for the Kosher/Commie clique that ran the roundtable, all this would have been known and done with years ago. But the Wałęsa-led parliamentary coup of 1992 put paid to any sense of vetting, de-communisation or human justice.
jon357 55 | 10,801    
18 Mar 2017  #285

I doubt whether his past was known when he was appointe

You deliberately underestimate this.

Or a former Polish president (Komorowski) was TW Litwin.

Cobblers
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
18 Mar 2017  #286

Cobblers

He's actually making it up now, as even PiS haven't accused Tusk of anything in that respect.

Still, it's completely off-topic, as this is about PiS and their snitches. Perhaps he can tell us why the snitch in question remains Ambassador to Germany despite the IPN confirming that they hold documents confirming who TW Wolfgang was.
mafketis 16 | 3,892    
18 Mar 2017  #287

leader (Tusk) accused of being a Stasi TW (code-named Oskar)

How did that work? Was he ever in the DDR?

What about Kaczyński's TW past (code name: Pikieta)?
Harry 67 | 12,873    
19 Mar 2017  #288

code name: Pikieta

You sure about that? It's not the code name I've heard in the past
mafketis 16 | 3,892    
19 Mar 2017  #289

It's not the code name I've heard in the past

What code name did you hear for JK as a TW?
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
20 Mar 2017  #290

Plenty of good examples of crime over the weekend.

First up - it transpires that PiS have been giving people salaries from the European Parliament as assistants, despite them not actually working as assistants at the time. Our old friend, Misiewicz, is at the centre of it:

Doubts also concern MEP Beata Gosiewska. In her case, it regards Bartłomiej Misiewicz. From November 2014, Misiewicz was her full-time assistant. At the same time, however, he worked in a pharmacy in Łomianki.

natemat.pl/203983,lewe-etaty-w-pis-oplacane-z-unijnych-pieniedzy-europarlament-pyta-m-in-o-bartlomieja-misiewicza

Others were also involved, but it shouldn't surprise us that he's at the centre of such a scandal.

Next - Tomasz Markowski, former MP from PiS.

Former parliamentarian PiS, Tomasz Markowski, was finally convicted for claiming money from the Sejm to rent an apartment, even though he had his own apartment in Warsaw.

natemat.pl/203907,byly-posel-prawa-i-sprawiedliwosci-skazany-za-wyludzanie-pieniedzy-na-mieszkanie-wyciagnal-od-panstwa-114-tys-zlotych

The stench of crime around PiS is unbelievable.
jon357 55 | 10,801    
20 Mar 2017  #291

salaries from the European Parliament as assistants, despite them not actually working as assistants at the time

That sort of behaviour can and does rebound on politicians who do it.

The stench of crime around PiS is unbelievable

As Lech Kaczynski said about corruption: "now it's our f*cking turn"...
OP delphiandomine 57 | 15,139    
20 Mar 2017  #292

That sort of behaviour can and does rebound on politicians who do it.

Well, it's already dragged down Le Pen in France. Such blatant corruption is hard to cover up, especially if it results in punishments from the EP.

As Lech Kaczynski said about corruption: "now it's our f*cking turn"...

Exactly. Perhaps Polly will be along soon to explain to us about why it's acceptable for Misiewicz to remain anywhere near the government.



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