Poland Parliamentary Elections 2019

Oh yes, at that time we could vote those "locals" out of office very easily, just like they used to do in Germany and the USA (... at this point I laugh wholeheartedly just as Mr Brezhnev did on BBC Radio 4 in 1981...) hahahahahahaha

Yes, that`s about troops around Poland. The troops stationed within Poland were already on the full move, approaching Warsaw.


Of course, I wanted to write October.

My history of Poland is fine until 1966. I lived there right in Radom and Warsaw. We had electricity, radio, and the newspapers. For the more curious, Radio Free Europe on the short waves in spite of the jamming transmitters.

What I object to is any insinuation that the German and the Soviet presence in Poland were equivalent. Not even million to one. The fact is I never saw Soviet anything in my entire life in Poland.

How many Poles were killed by the Germans and how many by the Soviets? And I don't mean their Polish collaborators, so don't go there.

Were did anybody, apart from you, equate them here? :):) You need to polish your logical thinking today, it is seriously disturbed. :)


No, you don`t go into things which only exist in your own mind. :):)

This sentence made them equivalent. Which is totally false. The Soviet occupation of Poland and the American occupation of German are equivalents. Neither occupational force loved the locals and neither killed the locals in any numbers worth mentioning. If they did, those were accidents or common crimes - like the US boys raping Japanese women on Okinawa. But not a matter of direct orders.

But America never threatened Germany with an invason and just let them go ahead, if Germany wanted to change its government.

Only in your disturbed logic. :):)
I knew you would choose this castrated part to support your claim but it is a failed move - you smartly omitted the full quote


Where in my quote did I equate German and Soviet occupations? When you enumarate various events from history one by one, does it mean you make them equivalents to each other? :):)

I must say I am really amazed by your irrational thinking now. :) Do you feel unwell today?

The US would more than invade if Germany decided to leave NATO and join the Warsaw Pact. Believe me.
The Soviets were correct sending a similar message to Berlin, Budapest, Prague and Warsaw. After losing close to 40 million people, they had a very diminished sense of humor and tolerance for bull***** we now celebrate as "democracy" and "independence".

pawian, that sentence of yours, if read by ET would make both occupations the same. Show me how they are different in your post.

He's trying to distract the conversation from the topic.... ignore the sad old desperately lonely fool...

Back on topic: I'm wondering how much longer JK's heart is going to be in it. He is not as engaged as he was even earlier this year.... the term 'pyrrhic victory' comes to mind...

If that`s your intention, shame on you, Rich. :):)

Aah, now it came to my mind you have a problem with semantics.

If I had written: 123 years of partitions, German occupation OR Soviet occupation., would it sound more neutral to you?

If yes, imagine I did. :):)

Easy. By mentioning both in the same sentence and using the same noun - "occupation" - without any additional comments or at least adjectives.

This may not be a perfect example. Imagine a police report that says: Rich was involved in a case of rape. The victim, Jane, is now in a local hospital. What would ET conclude? Simple: Rich raped Jane.

In actuality, Rich came to Jane's defense and stopped the rapist, which makes Rich a hero, not a defendant. This is how some fake news leftists operate here.

Oh, I see. Due to time limits, I composed a concise message, hoping intelligent historically-aware people would get what I had in mind. I am sorry, I was mistaken. :):)

I also counted on your good memory. In other historical threads, in which you also participated, I never equated Soviet occupation with German one. But there was Soviet occupation of Poland and you can`t deny the fact - my usage of the word was fully appropriate. Soviets entered Poland in 1944 and left in 1993 - what was their stay during that time? A friendly/family visit? :):)

Compared to the Germans? YES!!! It was a love affair. They even "gave" us Palac Kultury!!!
In closing, my bs detectors - developed and finely tuned here in the US where lying has become high art and the surest way to be successful as a politician - went nuts when I read your post.

However, I have absolutely no doubt that you do not consider both occupation equal. ET might.
Peace.

Not according to my fathers family....... they hated the Russians much more than the Germans and with good reason.

It is my habit to place my emotions on the same scale that is a derivative of the event scale. I don't have separate scales for different classes of events. If I were to put Germany on my hate scale - which would be hypothetical since I don't hate them - they should be, based on the historical records, at the end of it. Say, 100.

Where should I place the guys who liberated Poland, never hurt anyone I know, gave me Buratino when I was a kid, and became a superpower to make sure Germany will never again start another war? What would that number be? 80? 20?

Stop your nonsense. PiS won, its a victory for them. If you consider that the number of people that took part in the election is a record high.


Warsaw is a specific place and all the trash will always vote left so no surprises even such a loon like her.


Why do you spew Jaruzelski's commie propaganda? They told him to sort it out locally. He was the one who begged for Soviets' intervention.


Sure, Germany occupied Poland 'briefly' during the war. Soviet occupied it a long time after the war. One and other had different plans for Poland. Other than that they were the same - bloody occupiers, there by the forces of arms. A gun if you prefer.

What makes than so much different? Number of killed? Phew!

Klaudia Jachira more of her on TV and anywhere, let her speak such a crazy yap she is, lol!

A Good thing Konfedracje got in there.

This is so moronic, so off-the-chart idiotic, so infantile and disrespectful of the survivors whose loved ones were murdered by the Germans that I will leave it without a comment. Yeah, 6,000,000 Poles dead is a phew in the idiot's "mind".

Who in your family bled at the hands of the Russians?

This thread is about the elections in free democratic Poland - PiS won and whether you like it or not it was a democratic process. Maybe you should try that in Russia some time ?

Can we now get back to taking about that and let Rich enjoy his tram ride home

I must repeat what I said to another member before: your knowledge of Polish history is alarmingly bad. :):) In December 1980 Jaruzelski wasn`t at the helm yet. You mistook it with December 1981, which only proves you don`t know what you are talking about, Mr Plastic Pole. hahaha


Soviets.


Yes, she is going to be a mocking bird to PiS.


Yes, more mocking birds and clowns. Very good. When Korwin comes out and speaks about making sex with goats, it will be hilarious like in the past. hahaha


How can you get back to the topic if you haven`t made one single post in this thread yet?? :):):)

I think you are mixing Pawian with Harry.
Both Pawian and I are Polish. Enough to look into threads in Polish.

what history? I'm saying that in the 80' Soviets weren't keen on military intervention in Poland, relying instead on Soviet Poles like Jaruzelski and all the rest of that scum crew. Him and his apologist lied about it, to look better in the eyes of the public. You my dear baboon are a clearly a firm Soviet supported.


No, she is such a bird brains that she will be laughed at. On the other hand she a good representative for so called KO.


Sure PO is a bunch of clowns and looser that is obvious.

After election fewer on PolishForums, I see :-)
So many long faces. Long march trough institutions didn't work in case of Poland and "liberals" got kicked in the bottom again. And long mocked Konfederacja has found its place in a parliament as well (to which event my humble person has also contributed). Happy days :-)

How does Ruch Narodowa accept the 90s style neo-liberal economic policies of kurwa-mikke?

Janusz Korwin Mikke is not "neo-liberal" but a Liberatarian Conservative of classic Austrian school of economics. "Economy stupid"! :-)

Svetovid is good to Serbians. He granted us victory of PiS so we can recuperate our strength.

Duda dragon!

Why don`t you comment on Korwin clowns, but instead revert the topic to KO all the time? hahaha

No, darling, stop twisting things now, you initially thought I was talking about Decemeber 1981 coz you know nothing about December 1980. hahaha


Well, congratulations on your expectations fulfilled. The political atmosphere in the Parliament will become very hot soon. :):)


Of course not. PiS will take her seriously as death. And that will be the best role for her - play a fool but be treated seriously. hahaha

Well when i heard a Konfederacja guy quoting heritage foundation reports during polsat debate i dion't think there is much difference. Tell me what benefit to poland getting rid of income tax, getting rid of goverment hospitals pensions, child support, subsidised transport will be? apart from creating a new feudal system? Libeterians are just as idealistic as socialists, and just as naive.

Don`t speak like that of brat Korwin. One must sometimes have specific style in order to penetrate with words of truth and wisdom. I understand him absolutely. Brat Korwin is true patriot.

Novi wrote:
the will of 10 million voters.

The 2019 elections:
PiS - over 8 million
The divided opposition - nearly 9 million
nationalists and far right - 1.3 million
As you see, PiS can`t claim they were voted for by the majority.
Novi, learn those numbers for future use.