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Poland to officially demand $1.32 trillion WW2 reparations from Germany


pawian 222 | 23,646
7 Sep 2022 #181
our government understands that needlessy stoking resentment with an ally at a time of war is just stupid.

Pity that PiS gangsters don`t understand such simple things. They could have filed their demand for reparations in 2015 or in 2007 when they came in power. But now??? Fekk those hypocrite liars who have decided to take a revenge on Germans right now after the EU witheld the funds for Poland coz PiS constantly breaches the rule of law here.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,194
7 Sep 2022 #182
our government understands that needlessy stoking resentment with an ally at a time of war is just stupid.

German govermant had been doing that all the time in regard to Poland. Often using the EU as a proxy. That is quite obvious. Enemity, pressure and meddling into Polish issues are not somthing that can be jufied or proper. Posing as moral pragon in Europe is just pure dispaly of brazen German arognace and a proof they haven't learned their lesson.

I blame all those little dogs like pawian who in fact are traitors. Without them Germany wouldn't be able to do half the things they did to Poland.
pawian 222 | 23,646
7 Sep 2022 #183
German govermant had been doing that all the time in regard to Poland

Only in your sick obsessions!

Without them Germany wouldn't be able to do half the things they did to Poland.

hahahaha I see you can`t retaliate on Germans coz they are too far so you take it out on patriotic Poles who reject your hateful Germanophobia.

It is so good there are still so many normal Poles who block those rabid naziopolaken from ruling this country.
Tacitus 2 | 1,373
7 Sep 2022 #184
all the time in regard to Poland

Nonsense. Not only is the EU not Germany, it was PiS that picked up that gauntlet with a completely indefensible agenda that threatens the Polish rule of law. None of this is in Poland's interest. It would solely benefit PiS.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,194
7 Sep 2022 #185
Nonsense

lol! You are in denial and I will say once more for your benefit - Polish legal system is not a concern or purview of the EU or Germany. Stay out of it! We are not telling you what to do with your highy policitised legal system.
Tacitus 2 | 1,373
7 Sep 2022 #186
We are not telling you what to do with your highy policitised legal system

Because our system does not endanger our rule of law or judicial independence. And of course the EU is perfectly entitled to voice its' concern and act in this regard.

Because and just to explain it to you once more: Poland signed treaties when it joined the EU. It accepted thereby the EU Comission as the guardian of those treaties. If it is found in violation of those treaties, the EU acts as it is currently doing.

The only reason why PiS is feeding this Poland vs EU/Germany narrative is because they know of course that their agenda is indefensible otherwise. It is not in Poland's and its' democracies interest to give its' government control over the judiciary to such an extent. Instead anyone for ruly wishes the best for Poland's future must hope that PiS fails with their agenda.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,194
7 Sep 2022 #187
Because our system does not endanger our rule of law or judicial independence.

Neither does Polish system. You know nothing about Polish system, I know basic about German system.

Poland signed treaties when it joined the EU.

There is nothing in those treaies that tell us we should do as the EU tell us to do in regard to our legal system. In fact what the EU does is illegal! Political pressure without any legal basis.

he only reason why PiS is feeding this Poland vs EU/Germany narrative

Becasue they are center pro-EU pussies. IF Germany wants Poland out of the EU we should kindly oblige them!!
mafketis 36 | 10,761
7 Sep 2022 #188
You know nothing about Polish system

PiS is pretty openly trying to subordinate the judicial branch to the governing party.... would you be happy after PiS loses if the winning party does exactly as they are doing?
Bratwurst Boy 11 | 11,775
7 Sep 2022 #189
IF Germany wants Poland out of the EU we should kindly oblige them!!

Would there be a majority for that move?
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,194
7 Sep 2022 #190
IF the EU and Germany act as they are acting now there will be enough people to put it up to vote.
The only problem is PiS as that party is pro-EU.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,732
7 Sep 2022 #191
IF Germany wants Poland out of the EU we should kindly oblige them!!

Agreed.
The EU has been very good for Poland but they are now pushing too hard and asking for too much.
There is only so much subordination that Poles will take.
pawian 222 | 23,646
8 Sep 2022 #192
will be enough people to put it up to vote.

Don`t be silly with your sick dreams. Of course there won`t. Your naziopolaken party whose supporters are strongly antiEU collects 6% support in elections. Even PiS supporters are mostly pro EU.

It means that if you don`t like the EU so much, you need to move to RuSSia - you will feel like in Heaven there. . Ha!!!

You know nothing about Polish system,

Yes, he does. He knows that :PiS is trying to remove independent judges and replace them with stooges who will rule as PiS tells them. We had this system in communist times.

Neither does Polish system.

You can`t stop lying. Each of your posts contains a few lies.
But it is easy to debunk them. Every single time.
Tacitus 2 | 1,373
8 Sep 2022 #193
You know nothing about Polish system, I know basic about German system.

I know how PiS attempts to subjugate the judiaciary while you do not seem to know about the German system, or you would not make auch silly remarks. The German system e.g. requires de facto the government to involve opposition parties in the selection of judges for the Constitutional Court, which means that stacking the Court is impossible.

asking for too much

Literally all the EU is asking for is for Poland not to follow the example of democracies that became autocracies. That ia not "too much" but the bare minimum.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,194
8 Sep 2022 #194
PiS is pretty openly trying to subordinate the judicial branch to the governing party

Well isn't that broadlly speaking - making it more like the German system?

would you be happy after PiS loses if the winning party does exactly as they are doing?

That is not the issue here! The issue here is that system in Poland is build to protect communits from being sued. So the legal system has a build in a body that controls courts and judges and those judges are above the law, common sense and is imposible to put a judge behind the bars even if it obvous he is a part of mafia or his ruling are crminally insane.

In Germany judges don't have immunity like in Poland and politcians are constatly elcted to its board and high counrt and so on. They can be put on trial if someone has issues with their ruling!

Last but not least the EU has not bussies butting in into Polish internal issues, that is breaking EU treaties!

I know how PiS attempts to subjugate the judiaciary

You know what German propgadna tells you. Be a good German and buy into it if you want. One thing is certain you are not going to tell me what should be done in Poland. Let me know if you got it - loud and clear?
amiga500 4 | 1,495
8 Sep 2022 #195
does it matter the mild moves, and the massive compromises PiS has made mafketis.
\Have you looked at the mafia state of Bulgraia recently how the f did they get into the eu with their oligarchs and control of gov i'm sure eu regrets it,really idiot read up on their history and their shenanigns over the last five years. And the fact the gov has been overthrown by a mafia fsb pro russian government? nocna zmiana but still not a peep about from germans or eu commission rule of law wake up! it's all fake this rule of stuff! look at the mafia in bulgaria and romania and what pis is doing in poland is like10 percent of that.

we actually had a kgb bodyguard back in the old days become president of bulgaria, assasinations, real mafia style **** and eu funds by their billions going missing, no free press, yet still germany and eu remains silent, cause that kgb dude was merkel ally, and now that the fsb have done a nocna zmiama on the gov and are a russian cut out... really the amount of hypocrisy in the rule of law debate make me throw up!

But we still have traitors like pavianowicz thinking that the rule of law is real, as opposed to being a naked power play by ther germans enjoy ure delusions! in the meantime we will point out the EU fake standards. And that the polish population is behind us.
Bratwurst Boy 11 | 11,775
8 Sep 2022 #196
I wonder, where exactly do you see us so powerful? We couldn't even save the Oder....

But we make a an easy "bogeyman", don't we? Easy to blame all own failures own, to project all fears on, to shut down all people with different opinions with, calling them "traitor of the people", etc.

Thing is, that proceeding is not new, actually very old....and it led never to anything good!
pawian 222 | 23,646
8 Sep 2022 #197
nd that the polish population is behind us.

No, it isn`t, stop deluding yourself, it is infantile. 70 -80% Poles support the EU and Poland in it .We write it here regularly, even ad nausem but you still repeat your lies and sick daydreaming.

Your posts also contain a few lies each. Amasing!
Lyzko 45 | 9,274
9 Sep 2022 #198
My first time in Germany, way back in '85 (returned nearly twenty times since then, by the way) I can vividly remember seeing middle-aged protesters in front of the Berlin City Hall, I was told, with angry placards reading "OSTPREUSSEN GEHOERT NOCH UNS!" (East Prussia still belongs to us) and other signs regarding once "German" cities or towns "stolen" from them after the War by the Poles as well as the Russians.

When will the madness end, I keep asking?
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #199
Germans won`t give you. Wait that they collapse and compensate debt with the territory of Eastern Germany. Populace there are germanized Serbs. Re-Slavicize them and they will welcome Poland.
Lyzko 45 | 9,274
9 Sep 2022 #200
Therefore, former Lusatia and other formerly Slavic-speaking areas should henceforth by ceded (back) to neighboring Slavic nations???!
You're as looney as those Gottscheer folks.
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #201
Exactly. If USA and RF agreed, that`s exactly what will be.
pawian 222 | 23,646
9 Sep 2022 #202
compensate debt with the territory of Eastern Germany.

But we are not so greedy as you think. We already got German Eastern territories after WW2 and we are quite complacent with them, don`t need more.
Lyzko 45 | 9,274
9 Sep 2022 #203
Tell me somerthing. Do you feel that Poland's claims are in any way justified, legally or historically?
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #204
@pawian

Fine. If Poland hesitate, there will be Serbia from Adriatic to Baltics. After all, as it was in past.

Poland's claims are in any way justified, legally or historically?

Sure they are. Its minimum of demands to negate all harm done to Poland by the papacy that always preferred Germanics.
Lyzko 45 | 9,274
9 Sep 2022 #205
How then do you counter Germany's claims that Poland "owes" them once "purloined" territories in the East?

After all, Wroclaw is no longer Breslau any more than Szczecin is still Stettin.
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #206
Also, plan is maybe to restore Lusatian Serbia that in wider and longer plan may merge with Balkan Serbia to restore old backbone of Sarmatia.

How then do you counter Germany's claims

Claims of country that dissolve are irrelevance.
Lyzko 45 | 9,274
9 Sep 2022 #207
I take it then, Germany has nothing to say in this matter, according to your opinion.
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #208
The moment Germany destroyed Yugoslavia and took part in partition of Serbia is the moment when Germany canceled itself.
pawian 222 | 23,646
9 Sep 2022 #209
Poland's claims are in any way justified

Legally, they are not justified coz the subject was dealt with long ago.
Historically, they aren`t justified coz Poland received German Eastern territories which was a severe punishment for Germans.

We can only argue if they are justified morally. Yes, they are, especially when we talk about population losses. Germans killed a lot of intelligent people, both Poles and Jews. We can see the results of it till today when so many moronic voters choose equally moronic rightards to power.

However, the reparations certainly shouldn`t be fixed by PiS gangsters. PiS had an opportunity to submit their demands for compensation when they first came to power in 2006 or second time in 2015. Now it is too late when we need to be united against Mongol RuSSia.

The time for any reparations have passed irrevocably.
Crow 155 | 9,030
9 Sep 2022 #210
But if Poland join effort with Hungary and Serbia all becoming possible. Only our imagination can limit us.


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