but eventually its a woman's body and a woman's right to choose
Not if you agree that we're talking about a life that woman carry in her womb. You can of curse be unreasonable and claim contrary as jon does (which is obviously a bull) and in that case we would agree to disagree.
If however you'll agree with me that it is a life than the right of ownership doesn't venture there. There is noting else that gives the right to women to terminate it.
I am perfectly logical and reasonable, thanks.
No, you're not. People are not lone islands and live in a society, men and women differ but came together to form a family where they have an equal say on all matters that pertain to them.
Exceptions are just exceptions and we are not talking about them.
If we would apply your logic (pseudo-logic) we would need to dissolve all responsibility of men for their offspring's welfare, meaning they wouldn't have to pay for them or contribute to a medical care for women or their (benefits if there are such in a country).
Women would be soon banned from talking about men issues, have a say in a war ( as chiefly men are fighting), that would transform society into some kind of strange sectarian camp with gender as a dividing line.
I don't see such a society surviving for long without turning into a large totalitarian utopia with the state as a sole ruler, not to mention that it all goes against human nature to care and nurture for their offspring and that goes both for men and women.
If it's a life that it can feel and live on it's own with medical help...
So if somebody after accident is strapped to life support apparatus and couldn't survive without it - should we just automatically turn off the switch? Should be a baby (who cannot survive on its own without adult care) be killed at will and whim? Should all mentality patients unable to survive without care on their own terminated?
I'm asking you valid questions here.
What I don't like in the pro life movement is that they stop other ppl from having their choice.
Nobody is forcing you to became pregnant. You can exr4cise as much freedom to chose as you want.
I don't go around telling ppl to abort
I'm not going around or telling you to became pregnant! What are you on about?
The baby died after few days. That's just cruelty.
No, demanding the right to make an arbitrary decision about life and dead based on the right of ownership that is a cruelty.