Poland's LBGT Seen as Dangerous Foreign Idea.

Will the up coming election in Poland focus on the unpopular gay population.
Poland's ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party has made hostility to gays a central focus of its campaign, depicting LGBT rights as a dangerous foreign idea that undermines traditional values.

The pride parade in the city of Bialystok in July was plagued with violence after anti gay protesters chased people through the streets and beat them.

Dirk you were right.
WARSAW (Reuters) - More than 1000 people took part in a pride parade in the central Polish city of Plock protected by a cordon of armed police as LGBT rights became a hot button issue in Catholic Poland ahead of a parliamentary election in October.

Yes, absolutely johnny. There's a gay guy living in a turreted house up on the hill near me. Enough is enough, so I have been organising the neighbours, and tonight, after dark, we are all marching up there with baying hounds, crucifixes, and flaming torches, to burn the bastard out!

Are you trying to trash my thread that obviously you disagree with ?
Every other thread about gays has been closed by your tactics.
There are nicer ways to show your disapproval.
Now please stick to the topic.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Show some compassion for that mentally ill guy, instead.

Treating your own people with dignity is seen "as a dangerous foreign idea by some"?

LBGT rights everywhere have always been at risk.

My feeling is that we should simply live and let live. After all, deviance from the norm is
a human right, not a sin, unless of course one takes the written word of any holy scripture literally,
which is a dangerous idea anyway.

A meaningless one-liner. Sometimes we don't when a pregnancy is inconvenient.


And what rights would those be that they don't already have - like you and me?

To nake their relationship legal? And with that medical decisions, inheritance, social security etc

Their relationship is already legal. Nobody is going to prison for being homosexual.
They are not prevented from making medical decisions. That's what the power of attorney is for.
They can write the will and name anyone as the beneficiary like you or me.
They get the Social Security and Medicare benefits like everyone else.

Anything else?

One word: POLAND!

And the truth is that if the relationships are not recognised by law there will always be disparity.

Which neither the OP or Rich reside in, so I fail to see what the hell it has to do with them - the question was simply johnny attention seeking, because he doesn't have a life. Now that he has our attention he feels vindicated.

Quite sick actually.

hahaha Reminds me of the mob that goes to kill Frankenstein Monster.

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Not really the case in Poland.... as anyone who is actually Polish would know....

What disparity?
Law does not recognize a relationship between a guy and his sister, even if she had hysterectomy to eliminate birth defects. No disparity, or is there?

Why would law recognize, register, and validate what mentally ill or mentally disturbed people do?

You can dance forever about this and I will out dance you because the facts and logic are on my side. You see, there is a difference between tolerance and accommodation as we practice with the Down, the blind and the deaf people and full normalization.

You can try to cram the gay thing down our throats but we will never say it was yummy.

Yes, it is strange though that you can't necessarily keep wifey out of your will if she been done you wrong......simply because the state wants to abdicate all responsibility.

In this country the state decides to do with your estate - quite criminal really. On the other hand, I agree with Lena, that common law partnerships needs to be legally recognised - time for the EU to sort it out, and this is precisiely what they should be doing, if Poland persists in insisting on living in the Middle Ages.

Its a wrong approach.

Homosexual people exist since humans exist and by that, as long as it is willing by those involved it is normal. But, on the other hand, same as everything in human political affairs, homosexuality is also manipulated in political purposes. Oldest example that we know of is of old Greeks that stimulated admiration to male body in order to de-stimulate growth of population. Reason was limited available resources. Later, Romans and others continued to manipulate with homosexuality. In out time, it is EU that continued that practice.

But, Slavic countries don`t need reduction of population but growth and that is why those practices greatly damage Slavic countries.

What is so perverted about what LBGT do to each other compared to what a hetero couple is capable to? It is not like hetero couples never practice b*tt sex if they are so inclined.

Being Poland is a Christian Catholic culture..... men having sex with another man or a woman having sex with another woman is considered perverted.
That already has been established here a 1000 times now.
Since a huge majority of Poles are against LBGT and don't accept it........ it could have a major impact on the election.

PiS is going after LBGT people because... what else do they have? They can't keep on bribing the voters with "free" money forever, Smolensk is a dead end and the entitled nature of PiS elite with Air Kuchciński (probably just the tip of the iceberg) will alienate some.

when in trouble political hacks like to find a scapegoat and LGBT are this year's model - no matter how backward and primitive it makes the Polish public seem.

And, in case you missed it, rumors about JK's orientation have been circulating for decades (and none of them are about women....)

Considered "perverted" by those at ideological odds with established religion, not human biology:-)

No, Johnny, live and let live is essential to permitting this planet not to become any more unglued and
out of control than she already is!

Established by whom? By you and demented bigots like Rich Mazur? There is no reason why sex between two male or two female partners should be considered "perverted" by any rational individual.

There seems to be a silver lining in Poland though. The attitude towards LBGT people is changing. We might see some drastic changes over the next 20 years. Once the public attitude has shifted, legal changes are next.

npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/06/25/417446107/for-polands-gay-community-a-shift-in-public-attitudes-if-not-laws?t=1564644512621&t=1564743836636&t=1565553632020

You just described the majority of Catholic Poland so I have to agree with you.


Nonsense as it take a male and a female for biological reproduction.


Exactly what the Polish voters will be saying as the title of this thread: Poland's LBGT Seen as Dangerous Foreign Idea.
You can have your personal opinion Lyzko and I am not arguing that.
What I am trying to tell you is that regardless of what the small minority here want, is that the huge majority of Catholic Poles, especially in the rural areas, believe that gay rights undermines the traditional values of Poland which will give PiS an added advantage come election time.

Only a very small minority here care about the question johnny.
The huge majority are for live and let live, and don't care either way. If Pis actually helped people who live in rural poverty, instead of feeding their inherited fears, then society might see real progress.

I wont hold my breath.

No, it's meant to give PiS voters an excuse for voting for the horribly corrupt neo-PRL party. Some want to pretend they vote for PiS for reasons not related to handouts and this is meant to help them maintain that fairytale...

That "live and let live" works only if I know your end point. Liberals have no end points. Each step is immediately viewed is in the bag and the fights starts all over for the next hill.

You ask where the "struggle" ends, the left never answers.

Not fast enough for any changes soon though.

Not only is it against Gods law, its also against the laws of nature!

Tell us Lyzko, which mammal can reproduce within its our sex????


They won't be satisfied until all the children have been indoctrinated and brainwashed to believe this deviant behavior is normal.

Because sex is all about reproduction nowadays.... .

LBGT people are ultimately just that, people. People can be good or bad, thus there are of course also bad LBGT people which nobody would deny

Darren Grimes is perhaps a good example, plus that Yannopoulos guy that used to be in the media. They're nothing to do with any particular activism (or even engagement in) LGBT issues though. Jaroslaw Kaczynski and J Edgar Hoover also come to mind. Do I need to condemn them too, simply because we don't date ladies?