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In increasingly chaotic world, diaspora of Poland moving back to Poland an masse?


RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 488
21 Jan 2021 #31
quite a lot of Poles living in the UK have no intention in assimilation. they don't know the local culture, and they don't care about it. watching Polish TV (now it's a rarer view, but you can see Cyfrowy Polsat not too rarely in the British towns), eating Polish food and meeting Polish friends, mating with other Poles as well.

on the end they end up not being in any way 'local' in locals' view, but they will be somehow too changed to be 'local' in their local towns.
Lyzko 30 | 7,413
22 Jan 2021 #32
Assimilation is not given to all, you know! There's always one hell of a difference between comíng to a country as an immígrant, especially a migrant, as opposed to a visitor.
Novichok 1 | 2,552
22 Jan 2021 #33
In which case, how many hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians do you think the US absorb?

I ask that brilliant question when some open-borders nut tells me how migrants are all peaceful and lovely.
India alone has one billion of them. Now what?

quite a lot of Poles living in the UK have no intention in assimilation.

Such people are stateless drifters belonging nowhere. Yikes.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,663
22 Jan 2021 #34
respect

Respect is earned, not given. And unfortunately, in most FOB/1st gen Polonias' eyes, the US has been going downhill year after year. They don't care about the US nor feel any loyalty to it. Their kids or their kids' kids might, but not the FOB/1st gen ones. It's the same thing with Poles in the UK, Germany, etc. As long as their livelihood and bank account are secure, they don't give a rats ass what else happens in the country.
Novichok 1 | 2,552
22 Jan 2021 #35
they don't give a rats ass what else happens in the country.

Welcome back. We need you here to clean up and take the garbage to the curb.
johnny reb 30 | 5,251
22 Jan 2021 #36
As long as their livelihood and bank account are secure, they don't give a rats ass

Exactly yet the hypocrites still claim how greedy the Americans are.
Yes, welcome back, Dirk.
Novichok 1 | 2,552
22 Jan 2021 #37
yet the hypocrites still claim how greedy the Americans are.

There is something very uncool when Poles turn into Gypsies.
mafketis 25 | 9,313
22 Jan 2021 #38
Whom? Ex-Nazis, for one.

Your policies are stuck over 70 years in the past, please try to notice what's going on in _this_ century....
JakeRyan16candle
22 Jan 2021 #39
@RubasznyRumcajs
Can you blame them though? It's very very hard to adapt to any new place, more so abroad. I felt homesick just 60 km away from my home city in a town in my country where I already know the language and culture.

What at the beginning or on a vacation looks uber cool like architecture or different weather with time looks so unlike-home that you start disliking it. Even here we have a thread by British food lovers on why there's not enough British food in Poland. Most people who miss Brit food in Poland are British.

At the top of my head I can say Poles are not very used to all houses being endless brick terraces with tiny or no yards like in the UK. A few Polish cities have some bare brick buildings (usually churches) but most houses in Poland are detached and painted. It's little things like that that make it hard to adapt abroad and not everyone is adaptable. Even lovely Portugal would feel too different after living there for a while but on a short trip it's WOW. A Pole from Southern Poland living in Slovakia wouldn't feel that alienated though as the architecture and culture aren't that different.

Then from similarity, we move to vibes, intuition, longing and all kinds of New agey stuff that might be true like Relocation birth charts which might explain why you like some foreign cultures more than others for no apparent reason. Astro Click Travel is free and it totally matches my experience with Poland (preferring the Southern Part).
Novichok 1 | 2,552
22 Jan 2021 #40
The best way to stifle all that longing for the old country - I mean Poland - is to visit Polish Consulate after numerous and totally futile attempts to call or email. That reality check is instant and feels like a time machine. Only calling the IRS is worse.
Lyzko 30 | 7,413
22 Jan 2021 #41
The past remains nonetheless forever present , Maf, you as an historian ought to know that. Then again, you're not Jewish probably, and so are not expected to empathize entirely.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,076
22 Jan 2021 #42
Polish Consulate after numerous and totally futile attempts to call or email.

The sort people Poland needs (Investors) have lawyers and staff to do all that donkey work for them.

I paid lawyers to have all that bureaucratic red tape sorted for me, in the end some papers were sent to me to sign and return, Bang I was a polish citizen with a Polish birth and marriage certificate, job done.
mafketis 25 | 9,313
22 Jan 2021 #43
Maf, you as an historian ought to know that

I'm not a historian....

you're not Jewish probably, and so are not expected to empathize entirel

I'm not Jewish so I don't expect modern policies to be built around historical complaints that have no relevance to the modern world.

What are Jews doing about Uyghurs in Chinese concentration camps?
Lyzko 30 | 7,413
22 Jan 2021 #44
A Jewish lawyer was the ONLY one to defend the Scottsboro Trial!
mafketis 25 | 9,313
22 Jan 2021 #45
Scottsboro Trial!

And what does the Scottsboro trial have to do with Chinese concentration camps or the question of what modern US immigration policy should be....

Who do you want to keep out?

How do you want to keep them out?

What do you want to do if they get in anyway?

Answer those questions or just admit that you want open borders....
Lyzko 30 | 7,413
22 Jan 2021 #46
Contrary to some opinions, Jews don't only help Jews:-)

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