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Girl from Poland - how to bring her back


Bosco
30 Dec 2005 #1
Hi I know this may be a little wierd but I actaully am dating a girl from poland. We met in the summer of 2004 and fell in love immediately. She was in a work exchange program and she worked for me at a restaraunt. We are still so in love and want to be together for ever. The thing is is that we don't know how to bring her back here. She wants to come here but I don't even know the first step of bringing her her. Iwas wondering if you could help me with this problem. Thank you for your time.

Bosco
Guest
30 Dec 2005 #2
"here" means what country?
Some helpful hints:
1. find out if she needs a visa. Helping her obtain one may involve issuing an official invitation for her to come and presenting this to some relevant authorities

2. sponsor her plane/train/bus ticket
3. ensure some accommodation
4. compliment on her mother's cooking talents in advance. It'll pay you back immensely in the future.
magdalena
17 Jan 2006 #3
maybe u should go to poland, she will miss her parents terribly are u willing to make her change her world for you?
Guest
18 Jan 2006 #4
hiehiehie....Bosco sorry but you are so stupid...!do you think ehhh...!"maybe u should go to poland, she will miss her parents terribly are u willing to make her change her world for you?" yes of corse he look she in POLAND....I now, poland it'snt a big cauntry if we look firs for USA but she is big for one people....!!!!!!!!!You love she so much....so why you go and why she stay here..ehm....!!!!It's crazy....!SORY.....!:) :) :) :) :) phe!
magdalena
18 Jan 2006 #5
listen boy, dont u call me stupid when you cant even speak or write in proper grammitical format!
Rafik
18 Jan 2006 #6
magdalena
I think the Guest didn't mean you, but Bosco..
Guest
19 Jan 2006 #7
Hey, Listen to this idea.
Guest
19 Jan 2006 #8
It wont work, just get over her.
howard
19 Jan 2006 #9
Hi! I was in a simailar situation just a few years ago. To this day I still kick myself for not marrying the girl while she was in the US. After she left it became very difficult to get her to come back over here, life goes on without you. BOSCO...>FOLLOW YOUR HEART! If you love her you would do almost anything to be with her. I have been to Poland, it is not bad. It is very different from the US, if that is where you are from. One thing you should seriously consider is the differences between your culture and hers. *EDUCATE YOUSELF!!* I still talk to my former love in poland (we are still good friends) but we know that it would be very hard for both of us. But if your love is as strong for her as you say it is, follow it. you won't regret it. If you are a US citizen, you can marry a foriegn person on US territory while they are on ANY valid visa and they can stay as a permanet resident alien but they cannot leave the country for an extended amount of time after that ( I think about 3-4 months). You will have a lot of paperwork to do also. If you decide submit for a fiance' visa it will take about 2 months to process and if granted another 3 months to get all the paperwork completed. This may have changed since Poland joined the EU, but the best bet is to contact the Homeland Security office in your area. They won't tell you straight out what I told you. trust me. Good Luck BOSCO.
Guest
20 Jan 2006 #10
howard may I ask - so you didn't marry this Polish girl after all, did you?
howard
24 Jan 2006 #11
NO, :(. Although we still keep in touch with each other to this day, we realized our time and moment had passed and the rest life would continue. We have both found other lives but I still think about her everyday. sorry to get so SAPPY!
Guest
26 Jan 2006 #12
too bad. on the other hand i fell in love with an american girl but couldn't be with her for a number of reasons and think about her too... oh well
Guest
9 Feb 2006 #13
I just have the same problem. the best way of getting her to come is if you know a polish tourist bureau where they will write a letter of invitation (you can do it yourself too but I find that doing it this way makes it more official) then she has to ask her manager at work to give her an extended leave of abscence. Also she will have to make up a story like for ex. that she's taking care of her dad. Aslo the more $$, real estate or whatever that is valuable she has the better it is.
Guest
11 Feb 2006 #14
magdalena
magdama

wonderful. true, your remarks are wonderful and true. you are right she will miss her parents.

love

sincerely yours

Guest

you must try to learn english before you jump in discussion. Dont call people stupid coz one who thinks he is not stupis he is actually stupid. first deserve than desire. dont desire to come in forum unless you are able to convey your message with clarity. I dont know if there are mental doctor if they are take appointment and get yourself checked.

sincerely

hi Magdalena

is Magdalena your real name. you write good english. you think very clearly.

hope you will be giving visiting this site and will give me a chacne to hear from you.

sincerely

magdalena
magdama

wonderful. true, your remarks are wonderful and true. you are right she will miss her parents.

love

sincerely yours
marcinek
11 Feb 2006 #15
is Magdalena your real name

I'm sure it is - Magdalena or Magda is quite popular first name in Poland.
Guest
20 Feb 2006 #16
Yes, I need to ask a question. I've been told I am from the Polish region of Silesia and the city of Breslau itself and I am wonder how I could obtain such information on to my true where abouts? I've also been told it's entire region was the gift from a Frederick or leader of Prus. I also wonder if this is true. Can anyone help me out? Half Austrian here but what is a difference?
Guest
20 Feb 2006 #17
"Breslau" is a German version of the Polish "Wroclaw". Regarding "the gift" -- it's like someone who steals from you offers you the "gift" (after annexation Germany owned half of Poland - even though the land has been a part of Poland for several hundreds years).

Wroclaw is a nice city - it's a "modern" version of Krakow.
Guest
20 Feb 2006 #18
OK.. Thank you so much :) Now I understand Fredrick stole from the.. Austria??.. and gave back land to the Poland. But how do I say Silesia in a Polish? I need to know for college thesis in region of Kazan.

And regarding region Kalingrad ... is true called Koningsberg or Konengstaberg?..? Need also know for the thesis.

Silesia is constantly being Polonized to the day? Then why people say Castles of the GOthic still stand there? I as a joint Russian/Polish citizen know we leveled all things the German Koninstaberg, years ago. Your friend Ivan from the Russ.
tomasz
20 Feb 2006 #19
"Silesia" in Polish is "Slask".

Silesia is constantly being Polonized to the day?

Hmm - how it can be Polonized since it belongs to Poland? Castles still stand there because they are HISTORICAL monuments - most of them cannot be ruined under the penalty of law.

I'll ask my friend who is a historian to give you a more precise answer though :).

As promised, here is the experts opinion:

From the early twelfth century, the Polish lords of these vast territories began to attract new colonists with the promise of collective and individual exemptions from dues and services and the prospect of the lighter burdens in the future.

The settlement of the east Elbians lands developed into major enterprise, as entrepreneurs and speculators, locators , looked to enrich themselves by the provision of human capital -migrants!!! From Franconia, Saxony, and the Low Countries- to landowners , desperate for the manpower without even the most extensive estates were useless.

The ruling elite of the Polish territories were anxious to attract settlers , or as they were styled 'guest', hospitia's a recognition of the need to regard them as 'free' men. The hospities brought with them new, more compact field systems and technical innovations in the form of mills, and heavier ploughs. In 1175, Duke Boleslaw 'the Tall' (1163-1201) of Silesia allowed German Cistercians to settle colonists at Lubiaz, on the Oder, exempting them from 'Polish Law'-they were to remain free from the normal dues, services and burdens which a Polish prince might choose to impose on his subject.

A much more systematic and intensive program of colonization under 'German law', ius teutonicum, was developed in Silesia by Boleslaw's son , Henry 'the Bearded' (1201-38)'German law' meant not the laws of Germany , but the more or less standard package of terms under which colonists from the Germans lands were settled east of Elbe and Oder rivers. West of Elbe , the bulk of the peasantry remained closely tied to their lords -unless they broke loose and made the difficult decision to settle in the east on more generous terms, albeit under , harsher physical conditions.

When , in 1129 , Henry the Bearded began to run out freshly assimilated Germans, he took, to locating Polish migrants under 'German law'. Other lords, dukes and ecclesiastics followed the suit. There were some compensations-German law , actually restricted the terms on which settlers might leave, by comparison with more open-ended Polish practice. By the middle of the fourteenth century , if not earlier , the bulk of the Polish peasantry , including a largely assimilated element , could regard themselves as in some sense 'free'.

But assimilation worked both ways . By the end of the thirteenth century, in central and northern Silesia, the more fertile areas most attractive to the new settlers have become German, rather then Polish. By 1300 , the once Polish village of Wlen , near Wroclaw, has become the German Lahn, and Wroclaw itself , to increasing numbers of its inhabitants, has been becoming "Breslau."

That is how germanisation of Silesia slowly followed.
Guest
25 Feb 2006 #20
I see the now... thank you. My heart is sad- why must German economy suffer so much and why is it being blaimed on the POle. I like the girls, German. Their happy faces is my peace of mind. Why must I have such mixed feeling on this country, the world, as so, and must they focus on this 6 years, as deciple of today? Is it not hate propagated by the Bush? What about the Holy Roman Empire, Charlemagne, Bismark using the blacks Africa during the World at war I, the rest of world might have laughed,but they seemed to fight, and I mark the quote, "suprisingly well" letting East Africa hold out to bitter end??? Not the Belgians under Leopold commit many crimes of hate against the Congoese yet 2 citizens of Antwerpe, in line of fire murdered, stain German reputation during war and after??

My old old friend, years ago had said to me- the man Hitler did not truely hate the country, the Russ or the country as Poland. He was just in love with the history GErmany, and wanted to follow in the hallowed footsteps of the individual, Otto I. A WWII German general once wrote- the World, our playground, but the East had to fight. We bleed each other dead, we bleed ourselves. Polish furs and Russian iron/gasoline, needed for the tanks, the army. But present day "rogue" states include- Germany, the Russ. Poland only in it as follows- loosening of immigration, buying of the products, and economic deals, all for our blood. In "free world" should this institution also allready exist? Is this not more hate of us and more crimes in Iraq, propagated by the Bush?? When will American butchery end and justice prevail..??? Bush forgets to propagate to the people that world has woken up. Your friend Ivan, from the Russ.
mahmoud
27 Feb 2006 #21
czesc mam na imie mahmoud 34 lat ucze sie polskiego chce poznawac polska dziewczyne 34-39 lat,wolna zna angliski i duzo o Egypcie
to jest moj email adres eng_mahmoud77@hotmail
jestem z Egyptu
Guest
27 Feb 2006 #22
Hi Mahmoud, I'm not sure why you're writing in Polish - this forum is in English only...:).
Wroclaw 44 | 5,386
4 Apr 2006 #23
To the Guest who would like to know about their roots in Wroclaw.
If you are really interested in learning and want to find out about your roots, please go to the Genealogy Board and post some details. Then I might be able to help.

Wroclaw.
FISZ 24 | 2,116
30 Nov 2006 #24
Tim...What's a smartler?

BTW ...you're 7 mos late with this....jackass.
Varsovian 92 | 634
30 Nov 2006 #25
Getting back to the original point - I married my Polish holiday girlfriend and have never regretted it, despite all the stresses and strains our enforced separations caused.

We were both students, her in Poland, me in England, but tried to meet up whenever possible - our longest separation was 12 months.

We met on holiday in France - and love blossomed.

Afterwards, I couldn't afford the exhorbitant airfares to Poland; she could to England (the black market exchange rate plus tickets sold to Poles in PLZ meant she could have come over every month) but she couldn't get UK visas (they picked on her because she didn't want to work illegally!).

Telephoning was a major problem because it went through the international operator. Once I got put through after 24 hours in a public phone box, only to find she'd gone out 5 minutes before! Another time, I got through to her only to discover she could hear me but I couldn't hear her. I kept up a monologue (in French, our common language) for 45 minutes!

Her letters to me arrived in 2 days because she would put UK stamps on them and give them to strangers in Okecie to post on arrival in England. My letters to her took 2-3 weeks, and were opened prior to delivery.

Anyone who's scared of making commitments is quite simply foolish. The advertising agencies hype up "freedom" as a lifestyle. What sort of freedom is that? Freedom to stay an overgrown teenager all your life then find out aged 30+ that you can't adapt to meet the strains of living with another person because you've grown stuck in your ways. Do you really want to be the oldest parent at school? Do you know both you and the woman in your life are going to be so super fertile that your advanced age will make no difference. Kids hatched from 35 year-old eggs have shorter, unhealthier lives by the way. Or are kids something you think's never going to happen to you ... you'll hit 45 and regret it bitterly and your life will look as empty as it really is. Are you going to be healthy all your life? Yes? Good. Then perhaps you don't need any back-up, ever, every man is an island, don't you know.
1234
24 Dec 2006 #26
Hey man if you are so in love with this Polish girl, follow her to Poland...

Lets see if you can give up your life and move to another country.
manser
24 Dec 2006 #27
give her up, the **** why?

******* go for her man and grab he with both hands, dont listen to the rets of these morons.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699
24 Dec 2006 #28
give her up, the **** why?

Manser, your reading it wrong, he said lets see if you can give up your life
(where ever that is) to be with her in Poland..

Now I know you still have deep feelings. why aren't you doing this?
manser
24 Dec 2006 #29
I keep those very strong feelings to myself, too personal. Wouldnt even tell my brother ect.

Hows life in USA Pat, you know I was there in 2005 summer, long island, centre moriches, New yoerk state, camp paquatuck. for 9 weeks. working summer cmap, then 2 more weeks at virginia beahc, washington DC, new york, boston ect.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699
24 Dec 2006 #30
Hows life in USA Pat, you know I was there in 2005 summer, long island, centre moriches, New yoerk state, camp paquatuck. for 9 weeks. working summer cmap, then 2 more weeks at virginia beahc, washington DC, new york, boston ect.

well, considering we have no snow for Christmas, its pretty good :)

today I had to make dinner, my two brothers were coming , we exchanged tonight
and it was really fantastic :)

as for daily life, it is good, this year will be better year for us personally. as
I had recently recieved a raise, so economy is very good right now, but it
has affected various businesses.

Bush is bringing us down , Clinton had us on right track, I will always Admire him
as a President, I never thought any worse of him with the Monica Lewinski Scandal
because that wasnt important. People say, well if he can cheat on his wife, then
he can cheat the people. but, hes no lesser a man then any one of those
Politicians and they probably do it too, they just dont get caught. what happens
in the bedroom has no impact on politics, thats a whole different brain they think
with at that point! lol

Our Weather is pretty odd for this time of year.

what were you doing there? working with Children ?

that sounds really cool Paul, Did you like coming to the states?


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