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Poland hopes to attract hard-working, trouble-free immigarnts - Ukrainian, Belarusians and Vietnamese


Ironside 50 | 11,461
19 May 2021 #31
I don't hear much/any complaints

Don't feed it! If none going to feed it it might migrate somewhere else or die because mads will do nothing with it.
johnny reb 31 | 5,705
1 Sep 2021 #32
The Polish government plans to introduce a state of emergency in a strip of land running along its border with Belarus in response to a migrant crisis.

Morawiecki pointed to Belarus's decision to transport people, mainly from Iraq, to the Belarussian territory and to push them out into the territory of Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.

Kaminski also mentioned threats related to an approaching major Russian Belarussian military exercise.
Strzelec35 32 | 1,246
1 Sep 2021 #33
how does belarussian get iraqi people to go with them or even have access to those people or territories to begin with? what do they promise them a place in belarus to live at or something?
mafketis 29 | 9,829
1 Sep 2021 #34
how does belarussian get iraqi people to go with them

The logical assumption is that they tapped into existing human trafficking networks

do they promise them a place in belarus to live

If course not. They promise them access to the EU border, because if they cross the border and say 'asylum' they will most likely never be sent back to whatever sh\thole they're running from.
Novichok 1 | 3,976
1 Sep 2021 #35
I have bad news for Europe and the US. The ONLY way to stop your slow death as white societies is by making your borders shoot-to-kill zones.

It's been tried and proven to work here if the homeowner is armed and does not like the invading scum.
No, saying "asylum" does not allow the human garbage to enter my kitchen, take a shower, and demand a lawyer.
johnny reb 31 | 5,705
1 Sep 2021 #36
North Korea just implemented that idea and used Covid as an excuse to shoot to kill anyone coming into their country illegally.
mafketis 29 | 9,829
1 Sep 2021 #37
Who on earth wants to sneak _into_ North Korea?
Novichok 1 | 3,976
1 Sep 2021 #38
Spies and sabotours.

Who on earth wants to sneak _into_

Europe and the US? Only 5 billion people.

I see a problem with how to feed, house, educate, and treat 5 billion scum while 1 billion lawyers argue their cases. Or am I the only one?

But, on the plus side, when the white standard of living finally gets dragged down to the level where the 5 billion languish, they will quit coming.

And I thought it was all so depressingly hopeless...
mafketis 29 | 9,829
1 Sep 2021 #39
Spies and sabotours.

Always legitimate targets (even if they're on your side... they're legitimate targets).

Europe and the US? Only 5 billion

That's an exaggeration but the fact remains, more people want to live in Europe (that is Western Europe and the EU) than can possibly be let in without economic and social collapse.

And again, if you read/listen between the lines, Poland's tough stance on the border has the support of the EU. They can't say it openly, but they stop short of saying "let them in!"

It was similar in 2017 when the Spanish government obviously had gotten EU support to end the idea of Catalan independence.

No European government wants a rerun of 2015 and lots of precautions have been taken to prevent that. Will they work? We'll see.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,739
1 Sep 2021 #40
My cousin is a skinny vegan hippie and is quite left wing but yet he hates Ukranians and gets so pissed whenever he hears or sees them in Wroclaw. Same with his mom/my aunt. Poland is pretty divided on this about half don't care and half do.

Poland is getting richer and they need an underclass to serve basically. The Ukranians often make **** wages but a lot have also started business, bought assets, etc.
Ironside 50 | 11,461
1 Sep 2021 #41
y cousin is a skinny

Not necessarily because they are immigrants but possibly because they are Ukrainians.
Strzelec35 32 | 1,246
1 Sep 2021 #42
trust me they are much better people than pollacks all around and id rather be Ukrainian in America where i grew up than being called a pollack there every day as a kid. no one likes pollacks around the world. i even had an English skinhead like teacher once who said why is it everyone hates on Polish and they are seen as the only European or white people this way? trust me beimg Ukrainian they dont have jokes in California or look at them as trash.
Novichok 1 | 3,976
1 Sep 2021 #43
Will they work? We'll see.

Anything can be made to work if the numbers are low. That includes gays, trans, refugees, low-IQ certified morons, etc... Before the dam bursts, there is a small leak...

What happens in Western "democracies" is that many elections result in 49-51 type outcomes. Then, even a tiny minority rules the day.

Cancer cells are tiny, too, yet...you know the rest.
Strzelec35 32 | 1,246
1 Sep 2021 #44
Would you rather have turks polish or ukrainians in your country and second question would you rather be a Pole a Turk or a Ukrainian?
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
1 Sep 2021 #45
@Strzelec35

I'd rather be a Pole than any of the other options you offered.
Strzelec35 32 | 1,246
1 Sep 2021 #46
ok so be one. but what about the three options do you think you would rather have as the large immigrant group? also would the english for instance in the uk agree with you?
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
1 Sep 2021 #47
@Strzelec35

We already have tons of Poles and Turks here, I don't think Ukrainians would be a problem.
johnny reb 31 | 5,705
3 Sep 2021 #48
State of emergency declared.
The restrictions contained in it cover 183 towns in the strip near the Polish-Belarusian border.
Good job Poland in keeping the undesirables out of Poland.
I wish America had the balls to do this on our Southern border.
Oathbreaker 3 | 391
3 Sep 2021 #49
@johnny reb
Situation is different, Belarusian state is involved in Poland. The state of Mexico isn't exactly planning any possible invasion with their army near U.S border. Think Zapad

The Wehrmacht used military exercises as an excuse to arm and prepare soldiers before the invasion of Poland 1939. Suddenly something happened (staged by the NSDAP) that "Polish soldiers" attacked a radio station and executed Germans there. (It was prisoners dressed as Polish soldiers)

Which lead to the beginning of the invasion and the sense of being attacked in the perspective of German society (defensive war vs actual offensive war)

The danger of Mexico invading U.S soil is extensively less then Belarus/Russian army invading Poland
johnny reb 31 | 5,705
3 Sep 2021 #50
Mexico has already invaded the U.S. soil.
I just remarked, "good job Poland" in keeping the undesirables out.
I wish our government protected our citizens like Poland does theirs.
Oathbreaker 3 | 391
3 Sep 2021 #51
@johnny reb
Oh, I see. Do you look at every human being part of a certain culture to be like a body? Like cells being transferred to another body? The nations/states being bodies

Or did I misunderstand something
johnny reb 31 | 5,705
3 Sep 2021 #52
Poland like America want trouble free, decease free, hard working immigrants.
Un vetted immigrants or unwelcomed anyone should be stopped by our governments at our borders.
Poland is doing that but America is not.

Do you look at every human being part of a certain culture to be like a body?

Yes, there are the desirables and the undesirables.
Oathbreaker 3 | 391
3 Sep 2021 #53
@johnny reb
Very biological point of view, thankfully we are more then just a cell.
mafketis 29 | 9,829
3 Sep 2021 #54
Poland is doing that

The ones on the Eastern border at present have no intention of staying in Poland, they're headed for greener (in welfare terms) pastures, which is why the EU is actually passively supporting Poland.
Novichok 1 | 3,976
3 Sep 2021 #55
Neither Europe nor the US needs walls and fences. Just turn off the damn magnets and the rat traffic will drop by 99%. The 1% - the criminals - you catch and execute.

I am a genius again.
Miloslaw 11 | 3,197
3 Sep 2021 #56
Just turn off the damn magnets

Never a truer word spoken.
We are all too kind and generous to migrants.
Refugees are different and deserve help.
Most of these migrants are not refugees.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,086
4 Sep 2021 #57
I was just on the border of Belarus & Poland on polish side by the river and boy there are 100s of tents of refugees on Belarus side wanting to come to Poland. I was clicking pictures when suddenly 3 border guards came on a quad. One of them came to us and asked if we were journalists, and when we said no he very politely using the word "Please" don't take pictures and if I could delete the ones I took. The guard was so polite and respectful that I felt guilty and deleted 5/6 pics I had taken.

We started talking to him and he said those tents and food are given to the camped refugees by the Polish border guards. Most refugees are from Iraq and Afghanistan they are given visas and as they land on Minsk airport they are transported to the Belarusian side of the polish/ Belarusian border in awaiting army trucks and dumped there with no food, water or tents, which the polish guards provide them, the Belarusian military is standing behind the refugees and will not let them back in mainland Belarus.I asked the guard how they send food/tents/ water etc to them? He said they do that in night by boats and throw stuff to the refugees. Out of curiosity I wanted to see myself but didn't want to wait 4/5 hours. Guess Lukeshanka wants money and embargo lifted like Erdogan in Turkey made a deal with the EU about refugees.I checked the arrivals on Minsk airport and almost over 10 flights coming everyday from Turkey and Iraq.
Strzelec35 32 | 1,246
4 Sep 2021 #58
why cant they just stay in belarus or do they even want to?
mafketis 29 | 9,829
4 Sep 2021 #59
why cant they just stay in belarus

No welfare state?

dumped there with no food, water or tents

Human trafficking. Yet another reason that crummy dictator Lukashenka must go!
Paulina 12 | 1,994
4 Sep 2021 #60
Cargo_pants already wrote why they can't stay in Belarus:

the Belarusian military is standing behind the refugees and will not let them back in mainland Belarus

They even try to push them forcibly through the border into the EU (including kids).

Yet another reason that crummy dictator Lukashenka must go!

Yup, but that human scum won't go... And so the problem won't go away. I think that apart from securing the border Polish government should make sure to somehow inform potential migrants/refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan what's the situation on the EU-Belarusian border so they wouldn't buy into what the human traffickers are promissing to them (and so they wouldn't be taking this route).

Also, in general - the EU should be helping Poland and Lithuania in this situation, imho, since this border is EU border and those migrants/refugees are likely to go further West.


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