The Fur is Flying! Animal Rights in Poland

You sound like an expert. I had no idea about it. I seldom wear a jacket/coat/anorak in winter, a thick flannel shirt is enough, with a t-shirt underneath. That`s the comfiest set for me. I don`t mind cold, contrary to heat which exhausts me. I must be a typical Northerner.

same here. People stare because they think I'm underdressed.


You're an honorary Yorkshireman.

Well and F him for that, evidently he is turning senile or just has showed his true socialist colors. Sadly he is going to F up another segment of Polish enemy just for sentimental reasons or so it seems.


Evidently those do-gooders are not do-gooders in reality only in their own distorted leftie prepetition in reality they are those ideological crazies' who in a long run create problems for all of us.

"animals' because in the long run it is not about animals but about a crazy ideological agenda.

For disliking cruelty to animals and seeking to do something about it?


That's one of the lamest responses I've seen here. Even by your pathetically weak standard of logic.

For ruining Polish economy, for taking livelihood away from people.


You know master of lame shouldn't point fingers so easy it just laughable when YOU say it.

You seriously 'think' that banning fur farms would "ruin Polish economy"???? How much fur do you even see people wearing here nowadays? (Not that you see anything here, being elsewhere).


If that had a meaning....

Read that bill first and lets talk after you do it.
Beside why would be ban fur farms? To get a good quality fur one has to provide a good quality live for an animal. Those 'fur' animals need to be treaded well, much better than animals kept for meat. eggs or milk.

So banning 'cruel' fur farms you in fact you condemn all animal husbandry in the name of ethic ( or an ideology). Why stop there just ban all of it allthoghter and if you eat meat you a mighty hypocrite or/and fool like senile Kaczynski. Go and pet a cat, phew!

Ah once fur farms are banned poultry producers (which are doing quite well in Poland) will take a financial hit. Ah and what people who loose their livelihood gonna do eh?

So the EU demands cultural revolution in Poland. Already harmed by legislation operations of Polish transport companies, now it is turn to agriculture, hey what going to be next. All that Polish and is doing well on the EU market is being undercut by sinister administrative and legislative means. How is that not going back on the agreement.

PiS gov just laid on it back and does nothing beside some verbal sparing ....


Indeed IF your lame comebacks weren't devoid of any meaning they wouldn't be so lame.

Have you read the bill?


Really? No. Not really. That's actually one of the silliest things you've said.


Have you ever been in a poultry factory farm?

BTW, you conveniently forget that factory farming is less labour-intensive and employs far fewer people than conventional farming...

This bill has nothing to do with EU. It's internal Polish initiative. And it was passed with a huge majority by Polish parliment

ah so those are 'bad' as well. Surly people should be eating grass and some grasshoppers as well. Good luck with that. I'm not going to debate with you or anyone pro and cons of food production. That need to be done. Banning is just a lame way of avoiding the issue and up the alleyway for some ideologically left crazy.

Oh but with some EU based firms and their interest it does.


I didn't expect much from the total opposition as they are scum and cultural soviet rabble but PiS just joined their ranks - they heydays are over. Kaczysnki is an old moron

Meaning it doesn't bode well for wellbeing of Poland and Polish people with such a motley band in the Sejm.
Hell, I should just relax and watch it as a spectator, people in Poland should be aghast and worried but I guess that too much to hope for.

It makes me sad, a place with such potential better than most going down the drain.

Yes.


Really?


The one wise comment you've so far made.

hello there you barmy red bat! lol !


and grasshoppers ... smacznego - lol!


Said an expert on what is wise lol! I'm off kids are hungry .... going to feed them some grass lol not!

And what about Yorkshir pigs? What about their rights? Are they slaughtered gently or savagely?



Then, what about rights of all animals that finish in slaughterhouses and, to be blunt, ultimately finish as fecal matter or fart?



Let us look on animal rights from every angle. EVERY

There is no such thing as 'gentle slaughter'.

We are however talking about proposed legislation here in Poland rather than anywhere else.

Of course. But you know what writer wanted to say. I speak of euthanasia before bloodshed. There are ways. There is electrical pistol.

Abattoirs don't practise euthanasia.

What? No pistol charge in the head before knife? Its backward to let animal suffer. They know they would die, you know. Why let them suffer more then they need to suffer?

Always.

Well the animal rights bills has passed but at what price for PiS?

While waiting for Duda, latent tensions in the ruling coalition have now come to the surface and threaten to break the government apart?

What do you think will happen?

Will the coalition crumble? Will PiS try to form a minority government? Will all this pass? Will PiS call snap elections (just after alienating a substantial part of the rural electorate?)

Would be strange to crumble over a fringe issue when there is the very big problem of the economy on the table.

New elections will be messy - PiS would still be able to use Adrians veto power eve if they list an election

Polish farmers protest planned animal welfare law:
Political Correctness taking more rights away from the people.
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Thousands of angry farmers chanting anti-government slogans protested Tuesday in Warsaw towing a life-size figure of a cow, the farmers gathered before the parliament building where the Senate is debating the draft that has divided the ruling camp as well as the opposition. It has also angered farmers, who until now have been devoted supporters of the conservative government.

You didn`t mention they are protesting against the ban on production of halal and kosher beef and poultry. It will cost Polish economy billions.

And you didn't mention that your beloved POKO loco and commies eagerly support this ban ;)

No, they don`t. Why are you lying???

You silly old bat, stop sniffing Budka's butt and be a man for once in your life. Can't you see how ridiculous you are. The new law has been already accepted by senate (run by the opposition). Only PSL and some ppl from PiS voted againt it.

???? No! Where and when exactly? You are a puppet, not me.


Also, 20 senators from KO voted to reject it whole from a start. Then, they adopted a lot of amendments to lessen the financial burden on farmers and economy.

That is why I still claim: you were fekking lying, as usual. Isn`t it funny you come back to the forum after a break and lie instantly? Is it a permanent feature in rightards?

Pastusiak once said: "Polityka to kur..." but you, my little friend, are taking this to a whole new level. PiS and POKO carried this so called animal protection law through Sejm and Senat.

First of, PO clowns did not support an amendment submitted by senators representing PSL and PiS that was aimed at removing provisions limiting ritual slaughter. Second, the only important amendment comes from the government, who are now scared for their own asses, and it states that ritual slaughter of poultry will be possible without restrictions. Finally, PO proposed an amendment extending fur farming up to July 2023 and ritual slaughter until December 2025. But even then not all of them voted in favour of that amendment. Btw, your Beloved Leader, Borysław Budka, just managed to fekk up his coalition with PSL and he's bound to lose senate soon. All heil Budka.

Now remove your fekking head from Budka's butt, take a deep breath, dry your tears and read it: wydarzenia.interia.pl/polska/news-piatka-dla-zwierzat-senat-poparl-ustawe-z-licznymi-poprawkam,nId,4792581

You see? That is why you were lying in post 54. Simple.


Of course not. Don`t be silly, this is politics and they are doomed to cooperate in important matters = the ones leading to remove gangsters from power.

I did not lie. I just stated facts. Unfortunately, you are trying to remove the responsibility from your Beloved Leader by spreading your usual rubbish instead of focusing on removing your head from his anus ;)


Sure, I see. The only meaningful amendment came from the gov itself. PO just lost support from PSL and gained nothing instead. It is quite telling that you cant't handle the reality and keep feeding yourself with whatever BS Budka or his buddies can come up with.


Don't worry, Nowak and his gang were removed from power and you may find them in jail both in Poland and Ukraine.
Why do you want to be remembered as a guy who sold his ass to a schmuck like Budka?