European News and Poland Thread 3

But you won't. Enjoy your sh&t hole falling empire , crumbling to pieces. Blame Hillary , on the board of Walmart, during the point of no return. Also blame the Sackler family for that free market big pharma capitalism you believe in, nothin like a few million oxytocin deaths and associated zombies in rural america to stimulate the free market eh!

Adds to the GDP.

US support for NATO and US presence in Europe costa about 30 billion USD - it means 100 bucks per US citizen.

So if you saved that you could possibly get a pair of sneakers, some barbecue charcoal and stop off at Starbucks on the way home. Certainly not enough to live like a king

Or maybe you could invest it LOL

You sound like all those Brits who were banging on about living like kings after leaving the evil EU. xD


Horrible. And what they get in return? Market for their weapons and energy sources, huge political influence, and the status of dollar as an international currency. That's a rip off! It should be 20-25 dollars per citizen at most! LOL

Anyways, goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out. *waves*

Thats 30 billion more than Europe gives the U.S. in the last 75 years.
75x30= $ 2,250 Billion.$$$$$$$$$$
Ya trackin' with me here cms.


Now that is a real hoot Torg since Europe has to import it's uranium from Russia. lol
And since you have no centrifuges to refine it to nuclear grade for weapons.
Shouldn't take more than five or six years to get together what would be needed to make your matchbook nukes.
By then Russia will be the primary language in Europe.
Why do I waste my time here.

How much do you, parasitic Euros, spend on the presence of Europe in the US per Euro citizen? Or is Europe the only place worth protecting?

Only the wealth-producing US citizens actually support NATO and everything else.

Children do not. Service workers don't. Retired seniors don't. Gov employees don't. Only farmers, miners, and factory workers do so make it $1000 per person, econ imbecile...


Great question, JR. Joker was smart to bail.

Complain to your government about it. They're the ones who make these arrangements on your behalf.

Well, it used to be Latin (a decent language), then French (no comment), then English (the horror!), so maybe it's time for Russian now?

It's not an ugly language at all. If they don't b*tch and moan in it as much as Americans do in English, then maybe it wouldn't be such a bad trade at all. :D

Lets hope Trump gets re elected and pulls us out of NATO permanently. Germany never pays their fair share and always looks for ways to abscond from their debts. The Euros already have stared 2 world wars and cant get along with one another. A lost cause, time to cut the cord!


How much do the food stamp recipients contribute to your cause?

I do. In the meantime, I amuse myself with dealing with PF Euro a-holes for practice...

We are, we will be electing Trump to put an end to the welfare for Europe.
He will get rid of NATO.
@Novi
I am heading to my bank and exchanging my U.S.D. for Euro's while the U.S.D. still has some value even though the Euro is only worth .90 cents to one U.S. dollar.

What a deal.
All I can say is that Europe is in for some hard times in the next decade...... if they still exist.
One nuke on Warsaw and one on London and it would be over as Europe knows it.

From Russia with love...They wouldn't even have to be the 10-megaton variety. Just a couple of small ones - nuclear hand grenades - and an email to DC: Stay away and we will be fine.

Great. You nagged and moaned like a b*tch for long enough and we've finally had it. Well done. Mission accomplished!

Now, don't let the door hit you on your way out. :)


Yes, yes, of course, absolutely, spot on, we agree with everything you say.

Just f*ck off already.


Who says we will fight Russia? We'll make a deal with them and join BRICS. Why should we fight Russia? There is no conflict of interest between us. Long live Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok! :)

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Is that what you think you are doing? lol!
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Look, face the reality anyone who posts here and has no English as their first and primary language already has an advantage over you. It means that in terms of education and IQ, they can run circles around you. It is good manners that prevent us from stating it out loud, and a desire to play fair in my case.

Isn't that obvious, some posters are exceptions to that rule but let's be honest here the most active American posters are not the sharpest knives in a drawer.

I'm sitting on the fence here and don't like to take one or the other side but still, don't claim to represent Americans, there are plenty of Americans who understand that the US dominance and the US contribution to NATO are very well compensated in other ways.

That primitive notion that the US only pays money for others to enjoy free rides is simply not true. I understand that those are the points Trump makes and some of them are even talking points of the Republican party. (you heard it on the radio lol!)

That is the only reason y'all are harping about that as there is no tomorrow.
Wait there is another - you are all frustrated because you don't make as much as you would like and your life is hard and America seems to be going to the dogs and you look for a scapegoat that is easy to point a finger at and vent your underlying frustration.

I think not even Trump means that literally but would like to strike a new deal with EU countries paying more of tribute to NATO. You don't honestly think that would make any significant difference in the military and economic potential of the US?

It would change sharply if the EU became a competitor rather than a vassal of the US. One rule is sacrosanct you don't harass your vasals or it might blow up back in your face. It means the US doesn't need to leave anything the US is NATO, but if the EU becomes a competitor it will hit badly the American economy.

There is no point to all this on your part but toxic trolling and that only gives the Yankees a bad name.
But by all means, continue to spill as much toxic waste as you like. While you are on it hire a clown to make a spectacle more lively.

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and if you meant to say - I don't need to hire one I have you. You know you are outmatched lol!

By the way, I think that should make one issue very clear in my opinion the EU countries should contribute more to NATO.

Who are "they"? Name them.
Your post is too long.

You know, a, a, a, them.


What's the matter Torgy, the truth sting does it. Hoot !
Now lets everyone get back on topic here.

??? rather from Lisbon to Kiev.

Scotland: Government Wants 7 Years in Prison for Parents Who Refuse to Trannify Their Kids

dailystormer.in/scotland-government-wants-7-years-in-prison-for-parents-who-refuse-to-trannify-their-kids/

Putin is not a war criminal for taking kids to safety,

Western "democracies" are peace criminals for taking kids to gender butchers.

German farmers are on the roll. I think that should receive more support from all quarters and PF posters as well. Why does no one ever talk about it but Yapp instead about political talking points of some globalist pony like Republicans or Democratic parties, or about Putin?

What happening in Germany is actually what matters more. Unfortunately, I don't know German and BB won't say anything about it.

It's a fairly minor issue.

The government there is phasing out subsidies in agricultural diesel (it will still be tax deductible) and using the money to repair crumbling schools.

German farmers are not poor. Farmers everywhere do however complain constantly.

Andrew Hammel has a different take....

twitter.com/AndrewHammel1/status/1744301306854985869


Since I like the idea of food being available I lean towards keeping farmers as happy as possible.

@mafketis
Food will still be just as available in Germany as in places that don't subsidise red derv.

The financial impact on farmers will be tiny; certainly a lot less costly to them than the increase in their tax bills if the big problem with school buildings isn't sorted out pretty quickly.

A lot of the farming subsidies in the U.K. vanished with brexit yet the food shops are still full and farmers (except hill farmers which isn't a thing in Germany) are doing ok.

Yeah, it's important to see how the German government will handle it. Will it succumb to the protesters and then lose power to the right side of politics as an after effect. Will they stand their ground and possibly experience long term sabotage and a unwilling food sector or will they come to a agreement that works for the German political landscape

Maybe you are right, I don't know enough about German issues. ( As BB is being mysterious and modest when it is his chance to shine).

However seems to me that is A global trend or at the very least a European trend to undermine farming and food production in Europe by opening to South American or Ukrainian imports.

That would kill European farmers and make Europe dependent on imported food.

@Ironside
Most of the food today get's poisoned with pesticide to have a large enough crop growth to avoid loss of investments.

Unfortunately long-term I am worried that it will lead to more cancer and disasterous effects on the demographics and health services exploding with increasing need for personal and backing

@Mr Grunwald


Sure, there is some concern about it but as far as I know, there are regulations that don't allow for too much and too expensive use of those chemicals. At last in Poland and I believe in Europe as well, that is not the case of Ukrainian or South American food production.

Alas, that is a separate issue, What I'm getting at is self-reliance on the food of Poland as it is of strategic importance to maintain a balanced agriculture and food production capability to keep the country able to feed itself.

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I worry about cheap chicken and turkey being pumped full of antibiotics leading to antibiotic resistance. They give them growth hormones too.

@jon357
Thankfully Turkey's can't have it or don't need it. (I don't remember now why) so no matter the producer. I always prefer a Turkey if I can chose it

I always found it strange that in Poland turkey meat was more expensive than chicken. I asked a few people and they all said it was better. Maybe many years ago it was however nowadays turkeys are intensively farmed, never see daylight and are often so fat that they can't walk. They even have to be artificially inseminated because they're too fat to have sex. Basically a sort of biomass that once had a brain.

I work in Africa where chickens (you don't see turkey here) generally taste like they used to years ago when I was a kid and chicken was still expensive and a treat for weekends only. Now most developed countries including Poland and the U.K. use American agribiznes factory farming techniques and it just tastes of nothing.

The problem is that we've got used to food being cheap and easily available. People waste so much and want everything to be instant and easy. Great for capitalists who'll fill anything they see as a gap in the market (providing it suits them to do so) however not great for health when corners are cut and not really sustainable either..

When you get a chicken as cheap as the ones in Carrefour or Biedronia something has to give somewhere in the farming/supply chain and I'd bet money that it's not the farmers' quality of life that suffers.

Pesticides too (as you said) are dangerous, possibly a ticking time bomb.

Don't worry Jon, you can get high quality chicken meat all around the world. Just have to go to the right butcher or the right restaurant.