Polish cleaner claims sexual assault is OK in rural Poland

Remember how some posters tell us that growing up in traditional Poland is the best thing that can happen to a kid? It seems that that might not be true.


telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10112589/Polish-cleaner-blames-cultural-values-for-spate-of-bottom-pinching.html

So what do you think? Was there anything in this pervert's defence? Is it really acceptable to behave this way to women in Polska B?

It isn't the first time someone has tried to get away with this one.

Of course. I always pinch or touch my wife when I walk past her.

It appears sexual assault is one of Polands less palatable exports

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-23006696

Man molests girl.

Not only is this person a truly disgusting individual, but he obviously lacks intelligence for committing the offence within a small community, where he was easily identifiable.


Its time the EU made this viable and reciprocal, and made foreign courts uphold sentences given in other countries unlike the Tomek ???/Elderly woman rape case a couple of years ago.

It looks like his lawyer was bellshytting during the plea in mitigation.

I'm not sure about that: .

He would get beaten up proper for doing what he did in rural Poland - by the fathers, the brothers, the boyfriends. It's an excuse, a poor one at that. I remember the same excuse being used by at least another guy a few years back, they seem to think if they act dumb and blame it on their "heritage" they will get away with it.

I'd think quite a few women too would sock him one.

Exactly. They definitely wouldn't keep quiet about it ;-)

In certain rural places the father/brothers might have to beat themselves up.

That holds true for boondocks the world over. Even so, they would still "defend the virtue" of their sister / daughter if someone else tried to mess with her.

I'm unclear on one thing: is groping and pinching the same thing?
In the first line, they call it "a spate of bottom pinching".
In the rest of the article they call it groping. While both are reprehensible, groping is more of a "blindly feeling about", which in my opinion is much worse.

So, was he pinching, and reporters preferred more sensationalistic word, or was he groping and the title was meant to minimize it?

Did you miss this bit?

still.. inconsistencies..
This is what he was sentenced for:
Szczepan Majcherczyk was jailed for 21 months for inappropriately propositioning a female student and pinching the behinds of three strangers in public.

No, he was convicted of (and plead guilty to) three counts of sexual assault and two counts of threatening behaviour.

why are they talking about pinching, then?
Pinching asses is considered sexual assault, and I think if done at the bottom edge of the shorts, it's called groping inside the shorts.

+100


No, it isn't. Magdalena is spot on.
Btw, how do you know that he comes from "Polska B"? There are villages in "Polska A" too, you know lol


I guess you can say the same thing about British peadophiles, sex tourists and perverts.


He's a pervert, so it's "normal" for him.
What isn't normal for me is the line of defence in that case. Because that was the British lawyer's idea:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339380/If-I-deport-What-judge-told-Polish-cleaner-groped-young-women-blamed-upbringing-homeland.html


"perhaps"

lol

No comment...

I honestly don't mean to defend the guy, but his explanation did ring true with me.
In a village in Poland where I spent a lot of time, there were few old, and I mean old old men, who considered it their God given right to pinch a girl's ass if they thought she was wiggling it at them, or was scantily dressed, or sometime if she just got close enough.

The experience provided me with a very first insight into male mind, especially when social norms are being stripped by dimentia, and taught me to be mindful of what others think, even though outwardly I pretended I didn't care.

Women, of course, angrily yelled at the old men if they saw it happen, but then they turned to the girls and admonished them, too. This is not a game, was the message.

I'm not saying this whole thing isn't warped, but I'm often reminded of these old men, especially when seeing pictures of children's beauty peagents, or even just how young girls are portrayed in commercials.

@ f stop, I wonder whether the attitudes you describe have more to do with the ages of the men than the fact they live in the countryside. With local cultures being subordinated by TV and the Internet, I wonder whether there really are still major differences in views about what is acceptable within a developed country such as Poland.

Really old people often do whatever they want to do. They haven't a lot of time left, or probably shame either ;-)

This rings true. It was less unacceptable in the UK a few years ago and in parts of Italy it still happens. In Egypt they watch ladies through the window and grope themselves. Disturbing too.

I agree. It is an old cultural thing, quickly disappearing, but still more prevalent in villages than the cities.
Except in Italy ;)

Come on. Most women enjoy such attention. Those who blow it up are sick attention seekers.

I don't know any woman that enjoys that. Husband, boyfriend- yes. Some strange, creepy guy- definitely no!!!

You must be kidding. Please, say that you are.
o_O


+10 000

I see.


Creepy?

I see. How about an uncreepy one??


I see. Creepy - no!

Uncreepy - yes!

Sorry, pawian, but even if a guy was handsome it would still be creepy.

Ok, I see.

What church do you go to that makes you think that ?


Here in the U.S.A. quite a few woman carry small handguns in their purses these days which has really leveled the playing field on such crimes.

The "Stand Your Ground Law" gives a woman every right to defend herself with lethal force if she is being sexually assaulted by such perverts.

Times are changing and so have the laws.

I'm not sure this is perspective.
Pinching somebody's bottom is unacceptable.
Blowing somebody's head off with a gun, for having your bottom pinched, might be out of balance?