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Overhead lines in rural and suburban Poland?


Zlatko
27 Jun 2020 #1
In many village-like outskirts, small towns and suburbs of Balkan cities and all villages we use overhead lines for electricity and phones. Is it the same in Poland? According to Street View in most of Poland and Hungary yes. It contributes to the atmosphere. Overhead lines are not seen in most British, BeNeLux, Swedish, Finnish and German outskirts and villages. Strangely Czech villages don't usually have overhead lines.
jon357 63 | 15,214
27 Jun 2020 #2
In some places yes. Looks unsightly but is cheaper and easier than burying them.

A proliferation of satellite dishes is a bigger problem here.

Thinking about it, they do contribute to the atmosphere though. The cables, not the satellite dishes.
OP Zlatko
27 Jun 2020 #3
I don't think it's ungainly. We had old telephone wires here where they had In Bucharest it is but in central areas in big cities in Poland they're underground except for tram lines. The most annoying thing is too much advertising everewhere along roads in Poland imo.

What I haven't seen outside of Bulgaria is the old way of phone line cables - a metal carrier wire where the phone cable itself is attached by using those V- shaped things:

images.app.goo.gl/83NerST8AN2ke3aW7

Here another, unused one on the left where you can see the V shaped hooks (brackets). This is just the hard carrier wire, the phone cable bellow it is missing:

alamy.com/telecommunication-wiring-a-chaotic-pile-of-cables-boxes-and-connection-painted-in-white-on-newly-reconstructed-residential-facade-in-downtown-sofia-image234417074.html

Perhaps it could also exist somewhere in Ukraibe or Romania but it was very common in Bulgaria in the 20th century.

I read Poland as well as other countries in the area like Slovakia and Germany have the so called Dabube pylars (Donaumasten).

Hungary and Ukraine like Bulgaria also have portal pylons.
OP Zlatko
28 Jun 2020 #4
Actually I saw some similar wiring in the industrial area in Szczecin (ul. Lipowa) but Street View is not so clear if it has similar clams. I wonder if it was used in Poland in the 40s or 50s or is it left from the Prussian era:

maps.app.goo.gl/ms7wAbEcRjvXCftB7

Sorry for triple post, here's some from Lublin on ul. Jana Krzysztofa Kluka:
maps.app.goo.gl/Bvdcw4Y7we6XE9ok9

The Bulgarian ones were like the ones in Szczecin - with wooden poles
pawian 170 | 11,400
30 Jun 2020 #5
In some places yes. Looks unsightly but is cheaper and easier than burying them.

Yes. I still haven`t put the cable to the well pump underground, it hangs on trees around the country house. But I am planning to do it this year.
Joker 1 | 1,589
30 Jun 2020 #6
, it hangs on trees around the country house. But I am planning to do it this year.

What the is voltage on your well pump? Mine is 240V, is Poland 50 or 60Hz? Thats a lot of power to be hanging up in a treešŸ˜³be careful!!
pawian 170 | 11,400
30 Jun 2020 #7
It`s 220 V, 50hz. Yes, I know, that is why when we play outdoor games, I unplug it.
Joker 1 | 1,589
30 Jun 2020 #8
It`s 220 V, 50hz.

Im glad its not above your pool! I like checking out the different kinds of electrical and HVAC equipment over there. I noticed many homes dont have A/C units and was amazed that most homes dont have a gas furnace and still burn stinky coal. It doesnt seem like there are many electrical codes or anyone regulating them either. Im surprised there aren't more fires.

Could be worse , like India.







pawian 170 | 11,400
30 Jun 2020 #9
It doesnt seem like there are many electrical codes or anyone regulating them either.

There are proper codes and when I hired electricians to install cables in newly built or adapted rooms, they had to be certified. Only a certified electrician`s job is legal.

But that is sometimes useless coz people make their own alterations as they wish without bringing in a professional. And that leads to shortcuts, fires and electrocutions.
Joker 1 | 1,589
30 Jun 2020 #10
And that leads to shortcuts, fires and electrocutions.

Yep, there are ppl around Chicago that dont want to pay electricians wages and try to do it themselves, usually winds up being a disaster.

There are some serious fines too, that's if they get caught.
mafketis 23 | 8,410
30 Jun 2020 #11
In Europe I'm pretty sure that the championship in wire congestion is held by Romania (more specifically Bucharest)

Stuff like this all over the place... (but I still enjoy Bucharest, an ugly mess but fun and interesting with great food and drink and friendly people)

trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Romania/East/Bucuresti/Bucuresti/photo1283611.htm

c8.alamy.com/comp/EPDN13/wires-bucharest-romania-EPDN13.jpg

romania-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Netcity-Bucharest-241.JPGa_.jpg
Miloslaw 7 | 3,264
30 Jun 2020 #12
@Joker

Back when I was a kid, my dad and uncle rewired our whole house and fitted central heating.
They knew what they were doing and did a good job.
But if you tried that today it would be illegal.
You need qualified sparks, qualified gas engineers and qualified boiler engineers..... all costing serious dosh.
OP Zlatko
1 Jul 2020 #13
I think in Bucharest the reason is underground waters? As for Poland, are most people using electric stoves or gas ones? I dislike gas stoves.
jon357 63 | 15,214
1 Jul 2020 #14
As for Poland, are most people using electric stoves or gas ones?

Both. Often an electric hob and a gas oven. The preference is usually for gas. I prefer all electric too however most people don't. You can buy ceramic and induction hobs here however most people prefer gas.

The stoves in Poland never have decent grills; for Poles, grilling is an outdoor activity, so at best, it's a heating element in the top of the oven, and not usually a very effective one.. British style eye-level grills are completely unknown here (and I heard that new ones are banned in the UK now).
dolnoslask 5 | 2,889
1 Jul 2020 #15
I prefer gas hob mainly because its better for my wok when cooking Chinese food, oh and better overall heat control.
Joker 1 | 1,589
1 Jul 2020 #16
Stuff like this all over the place.

Wow! It must take hours to just figure out anything on that pole, it looks like a big mess.

You need qualified sparks, qualified gas engineers and qualified boiler engineers......

You still can work on your own home here, but need to get a permit first and they will will come inspect it afterwards.
It better be correct!

all costing serious dosh.@ Miloslaw

Ppl who try and save money will hire polocks who claim they know what theyre doing and it winds up costing the owner 3 times as much to fix it correctly.

There is a company that specials in De-Polocking houses. Its a big mistake to hire eurps for construction jobs in the US, everything is done differently over here, and they bring bad habits and attitude with them.

A lot of Mexicans work construction, but they have learned all the building codes and generally do good work.
OP Zlatko
1 Jul 2020 #17
So back to my OP, which country came up with carrier "wire" phone wiring? This wire has no electricity, it just carries the softer phone cable(s) that are attached with V-shaped metal things below it?


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