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Chances of Poland in case of war between EU (ie western Europe) and Visegrad Group ?


Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #31
the first day of battle from thousands of missiles smashing your infrastructure to piece

You are assuming that Poland and other EE countries would not know about the impending doomsday until 10 minutes before the mayhem. Any such threat and Russia would gladly offer protection - for a price, of course. Hello, the USSR ver. 2. This time with Poland as one of the republics and without much opposition from the Poles.

Bottom line: I would trust Russia more than the US as a guarantor of Poland's survival.
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
4 Jul 2021 #32
I would trust Russia

That´s like trusting a pack of wolves with the safety of your sheep and hens cause a fox has been visiting the hen house. Better to just feed the most hungry of the wolves and let them fight each other while scaring the fox away
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #33
without much opposition from the Poles.

Yes, rightists from PiS and nationalists and fascists from Konfederacja would be happy to live in Putinland.
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #34
Putinland.

That depends on what Putinland has to offer. Since you used the term, why don't you define it.
People will give up a lot for personal safety. The ruling mobs in Western "democracies" know it and that is why they like crime - both by the locals and the foreign scum they gladly import to the same effect. Plus, crime is good for employment in the law enforcement industry.
Ironside 53 | 12,487
4 Jul 2021 #35
from Konfederacja would be happy to live in Putinland.

you lie again and later you weep about bein g abused. Notorious liars' should be abused and more ...anyway look who is talking a self-proclaimed butler for Germans.. do you think that living in Merkeland is something better or noble than living in Putinland?
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #36
I wonder if there is any substance behind that "Putinland". So far it's just an empty word...
But I can help. Putinland is where fags are not allowed to spread their propaganda in schools.
Your turn, pawian.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
4 Jul 2021 #37
nationalists and fascists from Konfederacja would be happy to live in Putinland.

I'd say they are dreaming of bringing the Putinland to Poland. But the problem is that the majority of Polish voters are not dreaming the same dream and that is why Konfa will never get more votes than 10% (which is far too many, anyway).
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
4 Jul 2021 #38
Why worry so much about Merkelland or Putinland?

As long as Poland is within EU&NATO there is no need to worry. We can build, create, eat, work and even watch football on tv how our NT loses or wins without losing hope for the future. Isn't it wonderful?

Comparing to how the world was right after ww1, it's great.
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #39
Since you used the term, why don't you define it.

I mean values which are dearest to each rightist and nationalist and fascist: strong leadership which is brutal and aggressive towards liberals, LGBT and foreigners. Other values like democracy, decency, honesty, justice - are unimportant.

you weep about bein g abused.

Liar. I never weep. I am always happy you never stop thinking about me. hahaha

o you think that living in Merkeland is something better

Of course. See above.
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #40
Isn't it wonderful?

Being on the US military welfare sure is.
If the Euros had any pride, they would tell the US to hit the road and proudly stand guard in defense of de-Americanized and free Europe by themselves. I will send 100 bucks if you do it.

Other values like democracy, decency, honesty, justice - are unimportant.

...but can easily be found in the Bidenland. Hahahahaha!!! Hahahahaha! I think I just peed...
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #41
Hahahahaha!!! Hahahahaha! I think I just peed...

But you have your Pampers on? hahaha

Sorry, that was nasty but I couldn`t resist. :)::):)

it's great.

Yes, it is. But those mad dogs which bark against the EU all the time, want to take it away from us and make us live in their favourite Putinland. By rabid dogs I mean rightists.
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #42
Sorry, that was nasty but I couldn`t resist. :)::):)

It's perfectly fine. Just decided to serve an easy volley for you to return.
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #43
Being on the US military welfare sure is.

That is an old Kremlin dream - US withdrawal from Europe. The only US Pres who considered this option was Trump. But he was mental so we can`t take it seriously.
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #44
so we can`t take it seriously.

But you could assume a full load of defending Europe by yourself. With the British and French nukes, the German economy, the total GNP and the population equal or better than in the US, it should be a fairly easy task.

No, I am not being funny or sarcastic.
BTW, Trump's idea of the US withdrawal should be seen as a compliment to Europe. Unless, of course, Europe is a whiny welfare queen with fat ass and varicose veins.

I am thinking Merkel. Miss Europe...
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
4 Jul 2021 #45
Being on the US military welfare sure is.

What use is there for U.S.A other then her military?
I can't come up with anything they are able to brag about except their past.

@pawian
U.S troops for sure beats, German, French, Dutch or English. No doubt about that
Novichok 5 | 7,832
4 Jul 2021 #46
What use is there for the U.S.A other than her military?

I beg you...Please find the US totally useless as soon as possible. Dissolve NATO and stop sending your surplus production to us. And don't come here as tourists, visitors, immigrants, and students. Do all that and America will be grateful.

Almost forgot...Please move that who*rehouse, the UN, somewhere out of here...
Ironside 53 | 12,487
4 Jul 2021 #47
Of course

why is that? Cause you are on soviet fool he is too old to think? living under soviet boot made you a meek peasant who likes to feel he belong to someone and a soft German shoe is better in you mind than Russian boots ...

Democracy doesn't work if half oft the populace votes to be slaves , they forfeit their right to vote...and decide for themselves so shut up!
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #48
Cause you are

Coz I am a normal person while you are a rabid fascist who is obsessed with Dmowski`s crazy doctrine that Germans are the main threat. I am not obsessed nor am I a fascist. Isn`t it so simple??? :):):)

That is why you are losing time, darling. You would gladly live in Putinland if you decided to come back to Poland one day.
Ironside 53 | 12,487
4 Jul 2021 #49
I never weep.

you weep and shear tears and cry like a baby and then you lie in here that you don't ...just be honest..
otherwise you wouldn't talk so much about being abused - you are complaining ,you poor babe booo?

will never get

oh really? why don't sing us a song?
be a good boy :

youtu.be/gnPnEvy4e70

You would gladly live in Putinland

look I know you are a doofus who is too narrow minded to learn anything new !but really? Are you not done with repeating BS you learned from some soviet pamphlets 50 years ago and then you took some more of that BS pills for simpletons from Gazeta Wyborcza about 30 years ago.

Is that easier for you to believe that nonsense that has nothing to do with reality than to face reality?
I guess it is. You must have a straw man to fight otherwise you are too stupid to have any chance to win against real ideology and what it stand for..
pawian 222 | 23,756
4 Jul 2021 #50
eal ideology and what it stand for..

Yes, fascism is ideology. But I reject it wholeheartedly. That is why I also reject anything you do or say. Logically, you are e reject. hahaha

you are complaining ,

I see you are extremely agitated today and you see things which didn`t take place. :):) A little stoned already? Let me guess - you are home alone, coz your family is away. Why didn`t you go with them?
Ironside 53 | 12,487
4 Jul 2021 #51
Yes, fascism is ideology.

yes you are an ignorant moron and proud of it, anyone who confuses Dmowski with fascism is either uniramous and a fool or a progressive which more oft than not is the same.

I see you are

you see what you want to see - you are too dense to think don't flatter yourself
Novichok 5 | 7,832
5 Jul 2021 #52
Yes, fascism is ideology. But I reject it wholeheartedly.

Because you apply your own private definition of it and ignore the fact that, with the exception of the guilt-ridden Western freaks, the rest of the world is "fascist".

Quoting:

Fascism is a set of ideologies and practices that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community.

If a nation wants to keep foreigners away for ANY reason it's that nation's moral and legal right - just as you have the right both moral and legal to invite or not invite to your house anyone for any reason.
pawian 222 | 23,756
29 Jul 2022 #53
Visegrad

It stopped to exist. Polish Prime Minister said today that Poland and Hungary are going two different ways. The reason is simple: Hungarians support Putler and RuSSia coz they count on a scrap of land of dismembered Ukraine. Poland, on the contrary, doesn`t need any lands from Ukraine and Poles wholeheartedly support heroic Ukrainians in their just fight for independence.

With Hungary being a such a renegade and detriment to our unity against RuSSists, Poland, Slovakia and Czechia should form another group. Let Hungarians suck to Putler without Polish participation.
Veles - | 201
29 Jul 2022 #54
@pawian

And who exactly said anything similar to: "The Visegrad Group has been dissolved"?
pawian 222 | 23,756
29 Jul 2022 #55
The Visegrad Group has been dissolved"?

I guess it was Orban. :) And Morawiecki just corroborated it. Why?
Veles - | 201
29 Jul 2022 #56
@pawian

I don't recall anybody saying that. Would be pointless, given that governments change and that every issue is temporary.
pawian 222 | 23,756
29 Jul 2022 #57
I don't recall anybody saying that. Would be pointless,

So why are you asking pointless questions?????
Veles - | 201
29 Jul 2022 #58
@pawian

Because I prefer facts over fairytales.
pawian 222 | 23,756
29 Jul 2022 #59
Stop being such a Pytia and tell us what you mean as a fact and what a fairytale coz now you sound too equivocal. :):)
OP Crow 155 | 9,030
29 Jul 2022 #60
Let Hungarians suck to Putler without Polish participation.

Let them if they just want, yes, with many others, USA included, who already hang on Russian dic*. Poland have Serbia anyway. Only loyal partner.


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