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Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland


Novichok  4 | 9066
8 May 2025   #121
You are an engineer, and I am a humanitarian. We have entirely different understandings of mathematics.

I got MSEE. In my entire professional life, I never had to use math beyond + - x and divide.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 720
8 May 2025   #122
What should I do, Ptak?

As bright and eloquent as you are, you will come to the right conclusion on your own. Therapy, I don't think, is your answer. You would run circles around an average
therapist. Most of them are charlatans, pretending to be scientists. There's nothing scientific about the therapy, a bunch of nobodies making and changing the rules on the fly. Possibility of the good ones exists, of course, but it is extremely rare. Will power, character, and perseverance as your guiding light will lead you to the light
I suspect the big hole, something of great importance, is missing in your life, a great loving woman, nostalgia for your country, or realization that you deserve better,
that your accomplishments do not match your abilities. Reach for the stars.
Novichok  4 | 9066
8 May 2025   #123
is missing in your life, a great loving woman,

I found one for him and instead of saying I want her and the car (see 111), he said something about math - the most boring subject on the planet.

BTW, anybody can be a therapist. "Don't do stupid things. Here is the list". That will be $300.

No diploma necessary. A pair of working brain cells is plenty.
Paulina  19 | 4524
8 May 2025   #124
@Bobko, one more thing, because your manipulations blow my mind:

Remember - cocaine used to be an ingredient of cough syrups and Coca Cola.

And morphine made of opium was an ingredient in syrups used by mothers to quiet babies and make them fall asleep*. Some of them never woke up:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26163533/

"Opium's toxicity for infants was common knowledge; thousands of cases of lethal intoxication had been reported from antiquity. What is remarkable is that the willingness to use it in infants persisted and that physicians continued to prescribe it for babies. Unregulated trade, and even that protected by governments, led to greatly increased private use of opiates during the 19th century. Intoxication became a significant factor in infant mortality. As late as 1912, the International Hague Convention forced governments to implement legislation that effectively curtailed access to opium and broke the dangerous habit of sedating infants."

*As far as I remember I got to know about that from an excellent BBC documentary "The War on Opium. Addicted to Pleasure." It tells, among others, about what a devastation the addiction to opium caused to the Chinese society in the 19th century. This addiction was facilitated by the British. That was the cause for the First Opium War. The Second Opium War resulted in China being forced by Britain and France to legalise opium. Absolutely shameful.
Novichok  4 | 9066
8 May 2025   #125
to opium caused to the Chinese society in the 19th century.

Do you support the death penalty for smugglers the way China does?
Bobko  28 | 2194
8 May 2025   #126
because your manipulations blow my mind:

Good afternoon to you as well, Madame!

morphine

I didn't talk about morphine, but poppy infusions (tea) and poppy concentrate. As mentioned - I heard it from my grandma, and it makes sense - pharmacologically. Morphine is many times stronger than just preparing some tea, and heroin is stronger still than morphine.

Same with cocaine - which not an opioid at all, so I'm not clear on what your point is. It's a stimulant and topical anesthetic. People prepare tea with coca leaves, in the Andes - and it's certainly not viewed there as a dangerous and illegal narcotic.

By the way - thanks to the US and Poles included - the Taliban was toppled in 2001. Previously they had managed to bring Afghan poppy production to zero, but thanks to the new occupiers poppy production was renewed and skyrocketed. The main traffic route lay through Afghanistan-Tajikistan-Kyrgyzstan-Kazakhstan-Russia-EU. Two million people in Russia became addicted to heroin, the largest number in the world at the time. Thank you NATO!
Paulina  19 | 4524
8 May 2025   #127
I didn't talk about morphine, but poppy infusions (tea) and poppy concentrate.

And I didn't comment on that, but on your comment about the fact that "cocaine used to be an ingredient of cough syrups and Coca Cola".

Same with cocaine - which not an opioid at all, so I'm not clear on what your point is.

You compared cocaine with roast chicken, ffs lol 🤦

By the way - thanks to the US and Poles included - the Taliban was toppled in 2001.

Pity that it didn't last.

Two million people in Russia became addicted to heroin, the largest number in the world at the time. Thank you NATO!

Problems with drug addiction in RuSSia started way before the overthrow of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
OP mafketis  41 | 11292
8 May 2025   #128
Two million people in Russia became addicted to heroin

Is that why russia has cozied up to the taliban now?
jon357  72 | 23808
8 May 2025   #129
ecause - unlike in case of alcohol and cigarettes - it's doable

That's no reason to criminalise something.

And no, it isn't 'doable' since the fact that other intoxicants are freely available shows that criminalisation isn't 'doable' at all.

In fact, it's a spectacular failure given the high level of financial returns that criminalisation has given both organised crime and petty crime. Criminalisation only increases prices and risks to users.

I heard it from my grandma, and it makes sense - pharmacologically. Morphine is many

My great grandfather used opium for most of his life with no ill effects. He was both in the 1870s, died in the 1960s so for most of his life it was legal. He was a clergyman in a port city and found it easy to get in quantity from members of his congregation who worked at the harbour.
Novichok  4 | 9066
8 May 2025   #130
Criminalisation only increases prices and risks to users.

...and keeps thousands and thousands happily employed. From local police to the DEA agents, prison guards, judges, prosecutors, lawyers...Just imagine a crimeless country...

That's is why Western corrupt cliques invented soft criminalization. Just enough to keep that fake war on drugs going but not too hard to actually win it.

My GP smoked himself to death at 65. His buddy smoked until his died at 130. Conclusion: Cigarettes can be good for you. Brilliant...
jon357  72 | 23808
8 May 2025   #131
Foreign puritans pushed for decriminalisation. It was entirely about their domestic markets. The so-called 'war on drugs' has failed as spectacularly as prohibition of alcohol did across the Atlantic.
Novichok  4 | 9066
8 May 2025   #132
The so-called 'war on drugs' has failed

...because it was not a war at all.

It is a slap on drugs.

Wanna see a war on drugs? Go to China while carrying a kilo of table salt and see what happens.
jon357  72 | 23808
8 May 2025   #133
People prepare tea with coca leaves, in the Andes - and it's certainly not viewed there as a dangerous and illegal narcotic

Mate de coca is quite popular. It's on sale in Europe, as far as I know legally.

If people buy refined cocaine though, it's been made by God knows who with no quality control. Another failure of criminalisation.
OP mafketis  41 | 11292
8 May 2025   #134
If people buy refined cocaine though

It takes large sacks of leaves to make a small amount of cocaine... and the processing is not appetizing (soaked for a while in gasoline iirc0.

Another failure of criminalisation.

Decriminalization has not been a ringing success either...
jon357  72 | 23808
8 May 2025   #135
and the processing is not appetizing (soaked for a while in gasoline iirc0.

True. It's not a clean process if it's done outside a factory.

When it's refined for medical use, especially dentistry, the method is presumably better and above all quality controlled. I had a relative who worked, I think for Glaxo, making their local anaesthetics. When he was there , there were thefts of raw materials occasionally; the legal status does after all make it desirable for criminals to do that.

Decriminalisation has not been a ringing success either

It's worked better than criminalisation, something that has cost untold lives and enriched the mafia.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 720
8 May 2025   #136
Was your nose recently surgically repaired? How about a heart attack or stroke? Did you lose your appetite for sexual excesses and can't get it up? Have you lost your sweetheart due to financial difficulties? Plese restrain yourself from dishonestly comparing coca levels tea to snorting cocaine.Might as well compare
drinking a glass of orange juice and a quart of pure 90% spiritus.So the answer is not decriminalization, criminalization just a little better, morality, strength of character, believing in something greater than you, and meaningful penalties are the answer
jon357  72 | 23808
8 May 2025   #137
recently surgically repaired? How about a heart attack or stroke

That of course is the direct result of impurities and other issues caused by illegality.

You didn't really think it through before posting.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 720
9 May 2025   #138
You didn't really think it through before posting.

Oh yes, Jon, it took a lifetime of thinking and living up to my beliefs before I posted.
Novichok  4 | 9066
9 May 2025   #139
believing in something greater than you, and meaningful penalties are the answer

My position on the subject of fvcking with my brain is simple:

I am as perfect as God wanted me to be. No improvement is possible.

Last time I ignored the above, I fell down and ended up on the floor for six hours before I woke up with a blood face and a black eye.

Never again.
jon357  72 | 23808
9 May 2025   #140
it took a lifetime of thinking

Unfortunately not very well. Especially since pretty well everyone professionally involved in harm reduction is of the opinion that a combination of the legal situation and socioeconomic inequality are the root of the problem.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 720
9 May 2025   #141
If you are basing your opinions on the theories of the greatest charlatan of them all, esteemed Sigmund Freud, you might have a point about them. The fricken freak
was a sex maniac, pedophile, deviant of the worst kind, and self-appointed authority on the human emotions, based on sex alone, the more perverted the better.
I could tell you a story about the impostor, the quack with the university diploma, and the life of of a decent woman she ruined irreparably with her therapy.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 720
9 May 2025   #142
Last time I ignored the above, I fell down and ended up on the floor for six hours before I woke up with a blood face and a black eye.

I hope no pretender of a therapist was involved, and you got well on will power alone, maybe with the help of a loving woman


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