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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 28


Ironside  53 | 13973
10 hrs ago   #181
Ukraine is paying for not joining NATO earlier.

Ukraine has been run like a racket by a corrupt mafia-like oligarchy. They have been focused solely on profit and have shown no interest in any long-term strategy for Ukraine. The same group is more or less still in charge of the country.
jon357  75 | 25091
9 hrs ago   #182
has been run like a racket by a corrupt mafia-like oligarchy

So what?

You can say that about half the world and there have been people here who've said much the same about Poland, including you.

That is not in any way justification for an illegal and unprovoked invasion.
Joker  2 | 2689
8 hrs ago   #183
So, Putin launched a hypersonic missle into Ukraine last night. What are you Europeans going to do about it??????
OP Miloslaw  26 | 5746
8 hrs ago   #184
So, Putin launched a hypersonic missle into Ukraine last night. What are you Europeans going to do about it??????

Laugh!! Because the Russians lie all the time! Where is the evidence of this supposed "Hypersonic missile"?

This is the REAL truth;


OP Miloslaw  26 | 5746
8 hrs ago   #185
Russia will lose the war in Ukraine because they are weak, inefficient and stupid!
Joker  2 | 2689
8 hrs ago   #186
Where is the evidence of this supposed "Hypersonic missile"?

KYIV, Jan 9 (Reuters) - Russia fired a powerful hypersonic missile overnight at a target in Ukraine near the border with NATO-member Poland, in what Kyiv's European allies on Friday described as an attempt to intimidate them from supporting Ukraine.

reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-fires-hypersonic-missile-near-ukraines-eu-border-2026-01-09/

Russia fires new hypersonic missile in massive Ukraine attack, Kremlin says
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy calls on the world, particularly the US, to respond to the attack


foxnews.com/world/russia-fires-new-hypersonic-missile-massive-ukraine-attack-kremlin-says
jon357  75 | 25091
7 hrs ago   #187
Putin launched a hypersonic missle into Ukraine

In retaliation for Ukraine destroying key orc bases with billions in vital r*SSian arms.
Joker  2 | 2689
5 hrs ago   #188
Same old pattern. Sit tight, hope America fixes it, except for the PF Generals who provide loud commentary from the couch.
cms neuf  3 | 2314
3 hrs ago   #189
Same old pattern. Sit tight, hope America fixes it,

Who in Europe is "sitting tight" ? Most European countries continue to give military and financial support to the Ukrainians fighting the illegal invasion

We accept that the US no longer wants to be involved and we accept that Golden Cow has tried to organize a ceasefire but that Putler is not interested in signing it.
Torq  28 | 2148
1 hr ago   #190
In December, Polish Army received the first batch of Borsuk IFVs. Personally, I think Bober would be a better name but anyway...

Borsuk 1

The strengths of Borsuk are widely praised by military personnel who have already had the opportunity to test the vehicle, as well as by those who have completed training in its operation. Unofficially, the following can be heard:

"The targeting system is excellent and allows us to deliver accurate fire at distances of nearly 4,000 meters. Thanks to the ability to use Spike guided missiles, no tank has the right to survive a confrontation with Borsuk. The chassis, in turn, was designed based on often painful experiences from combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. It enables the survival of the crew and soldiers in the event of driving over mines."

Borsuk is the only vehicle of its class in Western countries that can overcome water obstacles (rivers, canals, or lakes) under its own power. Another important aspect is the fact that the vehicle weighs less than 30 tons, which means that in a crisis situation it can be rapidly transported aboard military transport aircraft.

Borsuk 2

I wonder if Borsuk will be battle tested in Ukraine, like Krab, Piorun, Warmate etc. It would definitely make sense - it's a new construction and there's nothing like battle test to see if there aren't any hidden faults or things to improve.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/BWP_Borsuk
Alien  30 | 7705
1 hr ago   #191
December, Polish Army

The most important currently would be modern drones, counter-drone systems, and combat robots. What does this look like in the Polish Army?
Torq  28 | 2148
1 hr ago   #192
What does this look like in the Polish Army?

Both drones and anti-drone systems are manufactured in Poland in ever growing numbers, and this year in Podkarpacie a huge factory will be built dedicated only to production of such systems.

If Russia wants to invade, they should invade right away because in a couple of years we'll be impossible to conquer.
Bobko  30 | 2926
21 mins ago   #193
Ukraine has been run like a racket by a corrupt mafia-like oligarchy.

Probably the only country left in Europe with an oligarchate still intact.

Of course they blame Russia for this. The same Russia which crushed its oligarchs in the early 2000s (accompanied by wailing from the West).

Never did the West care for any Russian as much as it cared for Mikhail Khodorkovsky - a man that ordered multiple murders, including the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk who had the temerity to call out Yukos' criminal methods of business.

Now they invite Khodorkovsky to conferences at Freedom House and the Council on Foreign Relations to opine on the state of freedom in Russia. Unbelievable.

have shown no interest in any long-term strategy for Ukraine

The greatest propaganda coup Ukraine ever pulled off, was convincing retarded Westerners that it was somehow a less corrupt and more efficient version of Russia.

The facts - obviously - state otherwise.

1) We reformed our tax code in the early 2000s, hugely improving compliance. We digitized the whole system, and made VAT collection predictable and automated.

The apes in Ukraine maintained a Byzantine, loophole-ridden tax system well into the 2010s. Tax enforcement was always selective and predatory, and primarily applied against the enemies of whoever is in power.

2) We removed most capital controls and achieved a free floating ruble.

Ukraine had chronic capital controls, emergency measures, and constant ad-hoc restrictions. The poor Hrivnha lurched from one crisis to another throughout all 35 years of independence.

3) We closed hundreds of weak banks (now most of those owners sit in London and run blogs about what a monster Putin is), and consolidated banking supervision and regulation.

Ukraine's banking sector is still dominated by oligarch-owned "pocket" banks. Massive insider lending, which continues to this day.

4) Russia adopted a Land Code in 2001, allowing for the private ownership of agricultural land.

Ukraine had agricultural land sales banned until 2021. Insane.

I could go on, and on, and on about corporate governance, anti-corruption agencies, energy pricing and subsidies, and so on and so forth....

The main proof of them being stupid peasants is that
Russian GDP is $2.2T (despite living under the worst sanctions regime), and Ukraine's is $200B (despite getting constant infusions from the whole Western world).

In 1992 Ukraine had a GDP of $22B, in contrast to Russia's $72B. They went from 3 times smaller than Russia, to 10 times smaller.


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