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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26


cms neuf  1 | 2204
5 hrs ago   #781
First thing to do is to ignore the deadline. the Ukrainians were willing to sign Golden Cow's ceasefire months ago and never agreed to this new deadline.

Then they can see if Golden Cow's is bluffing. spoiler - he's bluffing
Ironside  53 | 13802
5 hrs ago   #782
Sh*t the f*ck up, brain!".

lol, so you are basically saying that being Polish means being a brainless idiot and acting on impulses. Wow, you really have a low opinion about Poles; no anti-Polish hater can compete with you.
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As for Tusk and his post about that kid who was killed. It is revolting to see that cynical politician Tusk uses some sentimental rhetoric to garner public support; what's worse, he will succeed in doing so.
Bobko  28 | 2881
4 hrs ago   #783
It is revolting to see that cynical politician Tusk uses some sentimental rhetoric to garner public support

I did not want to say this, as I am not a Pole and it is not my place to dismiss the killing of a small child...

For what it's worth - the Ternopol strike almost certainly had a military component. The Ukrainians posted a photo of the office opposite where the child died, and there was a grenade launcher hanging on the wall.
Ironside  53 | 13802
4 hrs ago   #784
to dismiss the killing of a small child.

I'm not dismissing it. I know that Tusk doesn't give a F about that child. He wants to use her death to gain some points. That's revolting, given the fact that he is usless otherwise.
Torq  22 | 1916
4 hrs ago   #785
being Polish means being a brainless idiot and acting on impulses

Well, I wouldn't exactly phrase it like that but a lot of Polish history becomes incomprehensible if you don't take this silencing of the brain and acting on the whispers of heart and conscience into account.

We are not Dutch shopkeepers, we are Polish cavalrymen.

he will succeed in doing so

Of course.

Imagine also what kind of success he will have when some Russian saboteur actually manages to derail a train and kill half-a-thousand of passengers in Poland, as it almost happened recently.

As for the rest, I still think we should go to war against Russia. As much as it breaks my hopelessly Russophile heart, the criminal putinists have to be stopped, and if we don't help Ukraine now when they are still fighting, we will be fighting alone later. This is, actually, a logical argument if you so insist on following the brain.
Ironside  53 | 13802
4 hrs ago   #786
If the Tusk government were doing a good job governing Poland and truly preparing for any challenges, I wouldn't have an issue with them. However, they are incompetent and ineffective. Their actions do a lot of harm, and they are not efficient at all. All they do is talk, using wartime rhetoric, cheap framing, and other rhetorical tricks just to stay in power. This means they don't deserve mercy. They should have realized that they are not up to the task and should have resigned.
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the Ternopol strike almost certainly had a military component.

You do your Russian stuff. Just don't let me believe that the Russian govermnat is humanitarian or follows any virtues. It is most often a cold calculation and sometimes vicious venting.
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we are Polish cavalrymen.

Polish cavalrymen, contrary to Sienkiewicz's stories, were very practical, down-to-earth, and calculating. They used brains and skills. Only when we lose our country, women, and teenagers take the helm, acting on their feelings and impulses.
Ironside  53 | 13802
4 hrs ago   #787
I still think we should go to war against Russia.

Alone? Aside from Ukraine? I don't think so. First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready. Buying expensive equipment means nothing if we aren't prepared.

If Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Turkey were to join us-assuming we could sort out our other internal issues-then we could consider your plan.

However, I would want to secure a few hundred nuclear warheads just in case Moscow decided to use their outdated nuclear arsenal.
Miloslaw  24 | 5702
4 hrs ago   #788
First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready.

I think you are wrong.I think that Poland is more than ready to defend against a Russian attack.

How can Russophiles defend against videos like this? Russia is £vcked!


Torq  22 | 1916
4 hrs ago   #789
First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready.

Aaah, were exhausted Wojsko Polskie ready to fight the Red onslaught outside Warsaw in 1920? Were the defenders of Jasna Góra ready to repel the Swedish flood? Were hungry barefoot peasants, with only scythes as their weapons, ready to take on the Imperial Russian army at Racławice?

Being ready is overrated.

Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Turkey

Yes, I know your Scandinavia-Turkey idée fixe. At the moment, however, our key allies are Germany and Ukraine - as counter-intuitive as it may sound. Ukraine is wavering, and if they fall we may well be next, and Germans need an incentive to get their finger out. That's why we have to act.

I would want to secure a few hundred nuclear warheads

May God hear your words.
Hearhear
4 hrs ago   #790
I still think we should go to war against Russia

You're a NATO member, the U.S. will never allow that. They own you.
Torq  22 | 1916
4 hrs ago   #791
They own you.

Nobody owns us, unregistered retard.
Ironside  53 | 13802
4 hrs ago   #792
the U.S. will never allow that.

If we don't ask for permission,
they can do F all. I only worry about their junk; if they go against Poland, nobody will buy their stuff anymore.
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Being ready is overrated.

That's why we have to act.

Remind me, what is your opinion about the Burza plan in Warsaw?>
I think you are trolling me.
Torq  22 | 1916
4 hrs ago   #793
what is your opinion about the Burza plan in Warsaw?

*sighs*

I knew you would bring that up. I will just say that I perfectly understand the psychology behind Burza. As for the rest...

I think you are trolling me.

Am I?

Or am I not?

That is the question.

Whether it's nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of trumpists and putinists,
or to take arms against the see of troubles and declare war on Russia?

... and all that.

Goodnight, Iron, you annoying political realist.
Hearhear
3 hrs ago   #794
If we don't ask for permission, they can do F all.

Oh, they can do all sorts of things. Like not supporting you when Russian nuclear warheads rain on Polish cities.

Nobody owns us,

Keep believing that. The Trump administration is working hard to get Poland out of the E.U., and if he succeeds you're effed.

unregistered retard.

Better than a registered retard, don't you think? LOL.
Why do Poles always have to resort to personal insults? Is that in your genes or what?
Korvinus  8 | 818
3 hrs ago   #795
Zele rejects the deal

president.gov.ua/news/yednist-potribna-nam-yak-nikoli-abi-v-nashomu-domi-buv-dosto-101493

Lol, any concession to russia will only means a new SMO in 5-10 years or so.
It also gives a general green light for aggressive nations to do military conquest.

If Ukraine can't fight anymore, then the EU must declare war to russia (tell China they can have Siberia and they jump in), conquer and balkanize it, for world peace.
Miloslaw  24 | 5702
3 hrs ago   #796
If Russians thinks Poland is not ready for them, they need to think again.


Bobko  28 | 2881
2 hrs ago   #797
If Russians thinks Poland is not ready for them, they need to think again.

Milo.

The whole world changed since you were posting last week.

I think it may be good for you to close YouTube, and open Google News for once, and type "Ukraine".

Read the first 5-10 articles... and come back to us with what you think.
Novichok  7 | 10921
2 hrs ago   #798
Why do Poles always have to resort to personal insults? Is that in your genes or what?

Yessss!!!!!

That's what they do when out of arguments. The most obvious method...deliberate misspelling of Russia and Putin ... like third-grade kids...

Are you Russian?
Bobko  28 | 2881
1 hr ago   #799
You do your Russian stuff. Just don't let me believe that the Russian govermnat is humanitarian or follows any virtues.

Noted.

I just wanted to make it clear - nobody tried to kill a 7 year old Polish girl - if this fact needed any explanation.

This is a tragedy, and a terrible thing. I just wanted to say this before others got here, and wrote something nasty.
Novichok  7 | 10921
1 hr ago   #800
This is a tragedy, and a terrible thing.

It is if it's your family.

Women and other feminazis did everything they could for the rest of us to become callous and indifferent. They told us that abortion any time is a cherished constitutional right.

OK,I got it...60 million abortions since Roe - OK.

One 7-year-old girl dead and the world must be redesigned to prevent another one...


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