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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26


cms neuf  2 | 2327
21 Nov 2025   #781
First thing to do is to ignore the deadline. the Ukrainians were willing to sign Golden Cow's ceasefire months ago and never agreed to this new deadline.

Then they can see if Golden Cow's is bluffing. spoiler - he's bluffing
Ironside  53 | 13904
21 Nov 2025   #782
Sh*t the f*ck up, brain!".

lol, so you are basically saying that being Polish means being a brainless idiot and acting on impulses. Wow, you really have a low opinion about Poles; no anti-Polish hater can compete with you.
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As for Tusk and his post about that kid who was killed. It is revolting to see that cynical politician Tusk uses some sentimental rhetoric to garner public support; what's worse, he will succeed in doing so.
Bobko  28 | 3026
21 Nov 2025   #783
It is revolting to see that cynical politician Tusk uses some sentimental rhetoric to garner public support

I did not want to say this, as I am not a Pole and it is not my place to dismiss the killing of a small child...

For what it's worth - the Ternopol strike almost certainly had a military component. The Ukrainians posted a photo of the office opposite where the child died, and there was a grenade launcher hanging on the wall.
Ironside  53 | 13904
21 Nov 2025   #784
to dismiss the killing of a small child.

I'm not dismissing it. I know that Tusk doesn't give a F about that child. He wants to use her death to gain some points. That's revolting, given the fact that he is usless otherwise.
Torq  26 | 2095
21 Nov 2025   #785
being Polish means being a brainless idiot and acting on impulses

Well, I wouldn't exactly phrase it like that but a lot of Polish history becomes incomprehensible if you don't take this silencing of the brain and acting on the whispers of heart and conscience into account.

We are not Dutch shopkeepers, we are Polish cavalrymen.

he will succeed in doing so

Of course.

Imagine also what kind of success he will have when some Russian saboteur actually manages to derail a train and kill half-a-thousand of passengers in Poland, as it almost happened recently.

As for the rest, I still think we should go to war against Russia. As much as it breaks my hopelessly Russophile heart, the criminal putinists have to be stopped, and if we don't help Ukraine now when they are still fighting, we will be fighting alone later. This is, actually, a logical argument if you so insist on following the brain.
Ironside  53 | 13904
21 Nov 2025   #786
If the Tusk government were doing a good job governing Poland and truly preparing for any challenges, I wouldn't have an issue with them. However, they are incompetent and ineffective. Their actions do a lot of harm, and they are not efficient at all. All they do is talk, using wartime rhetoric, cheap framing, and other rhetorical tricks just to stay in power. This means they don't deserve mercy. They should have realized that they are not up to the task and should have resigned.
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the Ternopol strike almost certainly had a military component.

You do your Russian stuff. Just don't let me believe that the Russian govermnat is humanitarian or follows any virtues. It is most often a cold calculation and sometimes vicious venting.
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we are Polish cavalrymen.

Polish cavalrymen, contrary to Sienkiewicz's stories, were very practical, down-to-earth, and calculating. They used brains and skills. Only when we lose our country, women, and teenagers take the helm, acting on their feelings and impulses.
Ironside  53 | 13904
21 Nov 2025   #787
I still think we should go to war against Russia.

Alone? Aside from Ukraine? I don't think so. First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready. Buying expensive equipment means nothing if we aren't prepared.

If Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Turkey were to join us-assuming we could sort out our other internal issues-then we could consider your plan.

However, I would want to secure a few hundred nuclear warheads just in case Moscow decided to use their outdated nuclear arsenal.
Miloslaw  24 | 5858
21 Nov 2025   #788
First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready.

I think you are wrong.I think that Poland is more than ready to defend against a Russian attack.

How can Russophiles defend against videos like this? Russia is £vcked!


Torq  26 | 2095
21 Nov 2025   #789
First of all, Poland's economy and military industry are not ready.

Aaah, were exhausted Wojsko Polskie ready to fight the Red onslaught outside Warsaw in 1920? Were the defenders of Jasna Góra ready to repel the Swedish flood? Were hungry barefoot peasants, with only scythes as their weapons, ready to take on the Imperial Russian army at Racławice?

Being ready is overrated.

Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Turkey

Yes, I know your Scandinavia-Turkey idée fixe. At the moment, however, our key allies are Germany and Ukraine - as counter-intuitive as it may sound. Ukraine is wavering, and if they fall we may well be next, and Germans need an incentive to get their finger out. That's why we have to act.

I would want to secure a few hundred nuclear warheads

May God hear your words.
Hearhear
21 Nov 2025   #790
I still think we should go to war against Russia

You're a NATO member, the U.S. will never allow that. They own you.
Torq  26 | 2095
21 Nov 2025   #791
They own you.

Nobody owns us, unregistered retard.
Ironside  53 | 13904
21 Nov 2025   #792
the U.S. will never allow that.

If we don't ask for permission,
they can do F all. I only worry about their junk; if they go against Poland, nobody will buy their stuff anymore.
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Being ready is overrated.

That's why we have to act.

Remind me, what is your opinion about the Burza plan in Warsaw?>
I think you are trolling me.
Torq  26 | 2095
21 Nov 2025   #793
what is your opinion about the Burza plan in Warsaw?

*sighs*

I knew you would bring that up. I will just say that I perfectly understand the psychology behind Burza. As for the rest...

I think you are trolling me.

Am I?

Or am I not?

That is the question.

Whether it's nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of trumpists and putinists,
or to take arms against the see of troubles and declare war on Russia?

... and all that.

Goodnight, Iron, you annoying political realist.
Hearhear
21 Nov 2025   #794
If we don't ask for permission, they can do F all.

Oh, they can do all sorts of things. Like not supporting you when Russian nuclear warheads rain on Polish cities.

Nobody owns us,

Keep believing that. The Trump administration is working hard to get Poland out of the E.U., and if he succeeds you're effed.

unregistered retard.

Better than a registered retard, don't you think? LOL.
Why do Poles always have to resort to personal insults? Is that in your genes or what?
Korvinus  9 | 855
21 Nov 2025   #795
Zele rejects the deal

president.gov.ua/news/yednist-potribna-nam-yak-nikoli-abi-v-nashomu-domi-buv-dosto-101493

Lol, any concession to russia will only means a new SMO in 5-10 years or so.
It also gives a general green light for aggressive nations to do military conquest.

If Ukraine can't fight anymore, then the EU must declare war to russia (tell China they can have Siberia and they jump in), conquer and balkanize it, for world peace.
Miloslaw  24 | 5858
21 Nov 2025   #796
If Russians thinks Poland is not ready for them, they need to think again.


Bobko  28 | 3026
21 Nov 2025   #797
If Russians thinks Poland is not ready for them, they need to think again.

Milo.

The whole world changed since you were posting last week.

I think it may be good for you to close YouTube, and open Google News for once, and type "Ukraine".

Read the first 5-10 articles... and come back to us with what you think.
Novichok  7 | 11483
21 Nov 2025   #798
Why do Poles always have to resort to personal insults? Is that in your genes or what?

Yessss!!!!!

That's what they do when out of arguments. The most obvious method...deliberate misspelling of Russia and Putin ... like third-grade kids...

Are you Russian?
Bobko  28 | 3026
21 Nov 2025   #799
You do your Russian stuff. Just don't let me believe that the Russian govermnat is humanitarian or follows any virtues.

Noted.

I just wanted to make it clear - nobody tried to kill a 7 year old Polish girl - if this fact needed any explanation.

This is a tragedy, and a terrible thing. I just wanted to say this before others got here, and wrote something nasty.
Novichok  7 | 11483
21 Nov 2025   #800
This is a tragedy, and a terrible thing.

It is if it's your family.

Women and other feminazis did everything they could for the rest of us to become callous and indifferent. They told us that abortion any time is a cherished constitutional right.

OK,I got it...60 million abortions since Roe - OK.

One 7-year-old girl dead and the world must be redesigned to prevent another one...
amiga500  6 | 1826
22 Nov 2025   #801
Ukraine insists it still controls Kupiansk and Potrovsk. Real Baghdad Bob stuff.
cms neuf  2 | 2327
22 Nov 2025   #802
Why you think they don't ?

If the North Nigerians have conquered them then when will the victory parade be ?
Novichok  7 | 11483
22 Nov 2025   #803
The best argument that Poland is more like Russia than Western shltholes



Now Moscow and NY:


  • Moscow1.jpg

  • NY2.jpg
Alien  29 | 7637
22 Nov 2025   #804
The best argument that Poland is more like Russia

Poland was not always so clean.
cms neuf  2 | 2327
22 Nov 2025   #805
One article of Witkoff's filthy document proposes amnesty for all North Nigerian war crimes - presumably these murdering rapist scum want visas to visit Western Europe with their vulgar mistresses

Never going to happen. They will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives

I see BTW that having boycotted the G20 the Americans now want to join in again. Ignore their demands and deadlines - they are weak and will give in when people stand up to bullying
Torq  26 | 2095
22 Nov 2025   #806
proposes amnesty for all North Nigerian war crimes

Despicable.

The entire document is a sad testimony to the horrendous intellectual decline of American diplomacy.
Ironside  53 | 13904
22 Nov 2025   #807
the horrendous intellectual decline of American diplomacy.

What are you talking about ? They want to get something cheaply and fast.
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Torq  26 | 2095
22 Nov 2025   #808
What are you talking about ?

Go over the points, see how they are formulated, think about what those points actually mean and how they can (and will!) be interpreted by Russia.

Either the intellectual potential of American diplomacy has deteriorated alarmingly or they just don't care how it's written because they realise very well that the document won't be accepted and they want a pretext to wash their hands, like Pontius Pilate. The latter is even worse.
mafketis  43 | 11918
22 Nov 2025   #809
The entire document is a sad testimony to the horrendous intellectual decline of American diplomacy.

The US has been one of the leaders in dumping the nation state model..... and without a nation state governments can't really accomplish anything, so they degrade into public spectacles to distract people's attention.

The UK and Canada (maybe minus Quebec) are probably even further down that line....

Ireland's been busy dumping the nation state as well.
cms neuf  2 | 2327
22 Nov 2025   #810
One interesting clause is that 'European' jets can be stationed in Poland. Nice of them to give us a heads up on what happens in Poland

Of course the NNs will interpret this to mean that American jets can I be stationed here.

God knows how Trump and Witkoff manage in business - it's obvious that Putler can drive a bus through the gaps in this text

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