Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25

I would definitely feel the same. Little to gain, a whole lot to lose.

Yet History is a sterner mistress than Karma, and she has seldom shown favor to Poland. So, upset? Yes, I would be. Surprised? Not really.


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Source: thediplomat.com/2022/06/from-china-with-love-xis-birthday-call-to-putin/

Xi loves Putin. He is everything he wants to be.

The example of Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Ziamin, and Hu Jintao is not attractive to Xi. He wants to be a leader in the mold of Mao. He will not surrender his mandate, and he will occupy all positions of power regardless of established party precedent.

He wants to be a God Emperor like Putin.

God Emperor, eh? Well, it's good to have ambition... maybe he will even transform himself into a huge sandworm and live forever.

Why is it invariably the greatest psychopaths that run empires? Or maybe it's the power than makes them psychopaths?

Most bloodly leader in the entire 20th century who engineered the worst famine in human history?


putin's a small fry... he's not even close to Stalin levels of mass murder (which is why he'll soon be forgotten once he does croak).

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Lord Acton said this in the 19th century.

I think, there are tiers to life:

1) The bottom

2) The middle

3) The top

4) Centimillionaires - for the purposes of the rest, a class of people that has broken free from material concerns

5) Billionaires - enjoying the privilege and status of heads of state, but small heads of state - think Kyrgyzstan or Slovakia. Big security details, private aircraft, self sufficient compounds, and numerous staff. For all intent and purposes - unreachable for the average mortal.

6) Heads of large and important states - all the amenities of a billionaire, plus practically god-like powers of life and death over practically any individual inhabiting this planet of ours. The ability to shift industrial policy, and the lives of hundreds of millions, with a stroke of a pen. The chance to write history, on a daily basis.

I think this sixth rung of power is impossibly intoxicating, and nobody can resist it. If anybody parts with it, only grudgingly, and out of necessity.

Dear Poland:

Please, doubt. America is often stupid, but no suicidal.

Now, we are broke, so go see the French and Italians for any assurances you may want. They are very brave and very ready.

A US imposed no fly zone over Ukraine would pretty much end Russia.

Ehrm... what did you say??

A US imposed no fly zone, allowed Serbia to continue fighting for nearly a year - and that conflict still necessitated a political settlement at the end.

A US and NATO imposed no fly zone over Libya, failed to prevent any of the outcomes it was assembled against. Currently, Libya is divided between two halves - one ISIS controlled, and one Russia/Emirati controlled.

Never, in the history of the world, has a no fly zone succeeded in enforcing anything or producing facts on the ground. The only thing that matters - is infantry.

America enjoyed 20+ years of air superiority in Afghanistan - this did not prevent the collapse of the government they had been propping up for twenty years, in the space of two weeks.

Neither did America's dominance over the skies of Iraq, prevent the disasters that unfolded in Fallujah and Mosul.

Neither will America's current posturing off the cost of Venezuela, if it ever turns into an air campaign, force the collapse of Maduro's government.

Air power is nothing, without the ability to follow up on the ground, where you can secure and cement your gains.

... Especially when anti air missiles is not in abundance, and few ~$2500 Gerbera dummies can waste few scarce $1M+ Patriot missiles.

Poor Bobko...trying to use facts and logic while debating a Polak...hahahahahahahahahahaha...good luck with that, my dear friend ...hahahahahahahahahahaha...

That was as good as your last 100 attempts ...

From RT.com:

Russia denies targeting Ukrainian government building
Moscow's forces attacked an industrial and logistics facility in Kiev, the Defense Ministry has said

My wife asked me recently why I have that smile when I am asleep...Now I am reading that Russia is not targeting Ukrainian government buildings...

That sucks...What a letdown...

Russia cannot be defeated.

Ukraine has a different opinion here..

Well, whoever it was, Russia or Ukraine, who sent those drones, we have to thank them. I haven't seen so many funny memes since Braun was running in Sejm with a fire extinguisher. xD

Pathetic Golden Cow still hasn't responded to Putler.

Vance on TV talking to that molesting bastard Matt Gaetz about restarting oil imports from North Nigeria

And Golden Cow has lifted sanctions on Belarus airlines - basically carte Blanche for the NNs to get spare airplane parts

For those who think the US will protect Poland. It's quite obvious they don't give a **** - good job the plans to build nukes are getting more traction

Exactly. The NPT can safely be filed next to the Budapest Memorandum.

Very good, CMS Neuf! You are learning!

Why should the US protect Poland? Is Poland now the 51st state?

DId Poland ever protect the US? 10 million migrants invaded the US and Poland did nothing to stop them, to feed them, to house them...WTF...

No reason really, except they signed a treaty saying they would.

Now we know it's not true and the US won't be there for us. Time to put the ad in the paper for nuclear scientists wanted

That treaty is not a suicide pact.

The US entered voluntarily. The US can leave voluntarily after the first shot. Bye, azzholes...we won't be doing WW3...1 and 2 were enough...


Now we know that you are not Golden Imbecile. Just Golden Moron. Or, as PAK would have it...Golden Idiot.

Are you suggesting Poland should have overthrowed the US government? The stupid Americans have voted for more migrants and no border wall.

Yup, Zelensky didn't run when srus was storming Kyiv, there were hit squads hunting him, and everyone was expecting Ukraine to fall in a week. Pootin ran away like a little b!tch to hide in his bunker, the moment Prigo and his meme rebellion started to go towards Moscow. Extremely weak and pathetic leader.

No.... your'e all just a bunch of cowards afraid to stand up for yourselves and you think if you can bring more people into the country he'll spend less time beating you and more time beating the newcomers....

russia has _nothing_ to offer the world but rather than realizing that and trying to become better.... you just double down on destruction and nihilism.... sinking further into your death cult....

The thing is, I think you actually realize this at some level and supress it to justify your cowardice and weakness.

Here's a pretty russian song, so that I won't be accused of being a 'russophobe' (as if there were anything wrong with that)

No.

Poland could invade Mexico and build a wall on their side of the border.

Because you are still in NATO. However, the USA are a free country - you are free to leave the alliance any time you want.


Why wait for the first shot? If you know already that you won't honour the alliance, just leave. Sounds fair, doesn't it?

Ukrainians increasingly testing their own missiles - this prototype cruise hit a North Nigerian mustering station on Monday

trenchart.us/p/mystery-in-donetsk-did-ukraine-just

Probably tired of waiting 2 weeks for Golden Cow (and other NATO leaders) to do something

@cms neuf
Well after Poland got hit, most people think it's just a piece of paper now (NATO) with no real U.S backing. Expect more violence targeting U.S, Russia and NATO possibly in near future

The first part of your sentence is wrong - it's not just a piece of paper: after the drones incident our European NATO allies (France, Germany, the Netherlands, Britain, Czechia) offered us substantial help.

The second part of your sentence is closer to the truth: the USA, having the largest NATO army, and having 80,000 soldiers and all sorts of equipment in Europe, offered us nothing.

So, it is now blatantly obvious - we can count on the EU and we can count on European NATO; on the USA - not so much.

Of course it's wrong. Just as most people are wrong.
Do not make the mistake of me holding same opinion as others. I am merely sharing my opinion of how others most likely will perceive it as. Even if it is wrong. Most people make wrong decisions based on wrong assumptions.

Therefore leading to disastrous situations logical people can't fathom

Very good news.


Of course they do, and that makes many of them vicious and destructive