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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25


Korvinus  8 | 800
3 Oct 2025   #631
Speak like a man! Otherwise go back to your corner and be quiet.


Ironside  53 | 13769
3 Oct 2025   #632
The War in Iraq was not genocidal, it was not aimed at aggressively annexing entire countries or their territories

One was an imperialist war, as the other is an imperialist war of dominance. Why are you quibbling about details?
Poland is on one side, not the other, because it seems to be in our interest, not because we are doing charity.
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If you are talking about what is morally right (not politics), then Poland should be on the side of Iraq and on the side of Ukraine. Eat less crap and reflect more to seek clarity in life.
OP Novichok  8 | 10803
3 Oct 2025   #633
Ukraine could hit deep into Russia which would effect not only the military but civilians

...and pizz them off real bad...

My sense is that many of them go daily ... Why the fvck does it take three damn years to win this crap????
cms neuf  1 | 2231
3 Oct 2025   #634
Why the fvck does it take three damn years to win this crap????

Crap weapons, dumb tactics, poor supply lines, no air cover, demotivated troops and being shitfaced drunk from 7am probably doesn't help
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #635
tried to imagine Nawrocki trying to kiss me on the belly button and, although it was quite warm in my study, I shivered

This tells me something is rotten in the Kingdom of Poland... for each citizen of a good republic must want to be kissed on the stomach by his leader.

The thought of Putin blowing raspberries on my stomach... gives me indescribable joy.

-//-

When I was younger, I wanted to ride on Putin's stallion - bare chested - as we witnessed the glory of God's creation in the endless expanses of Siberia.

To help our leader guide the storks on their winter migration, in his delta plane.

To dive with him, for Greek amphorae in the bays of Sevastopol.

Now - all I want is to be kissed on the stomach by the Eternal One.


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Velund  1 | 537
3 Oct 2025   #636
Why the fvck does it take three damn years to win this crap????

Because there was a decade of building concrete fortifications before starting of SMO. In addition, each third Russian family (at least) have relatives in the east of malorossia. So, efficient and progressive ways of war (like the one used in Iraq - carpet bombing and then "cleanising" with MG fire to anything that moves) is not practical on this territory.
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #637
Because there was a decade of building concrete fortifications before starting of SMO.

...

In addition, each third Russian family (at least) have relatives in the east of malorossia.

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not practical on this territory.

All these are good reasons... but I feel you are missing the most important ones.

That is, that:

1) Close to $350 billion dollars of aid have been provided to Ukraine. Contrast this with the $3-4B that Israel receives annually from America, and about which the whole world complains.

2) America and Europe have made available their constellations of spy satellites, reconnaissance aircraft, and special forces operators to assist Ukraine.

3) America and Europe have emptied their weapon stockpiles, and handed everything over to Ukraine.

--//--

I think these factors, explain everything much better, than any concrete fortifications or presence of relatives.
Torq  21 | 1870
3 Oct 2025   #638
This tells me something is rotten in the Kingdom of Poland... for each citizen of a good republic must want to be kissed on the stomach by his leader.

Brother oprichnik, your tongue utters nonsense, a stench of the sensate swamp. What kind of republic is this, where a man lowers himself to dream of the Leader's lips upon his belly? Do you not see? The seed of decay hides in such jest: the flesh raised above the soul, the Leader reduced to a jester, the citizen to a child begging for tickles.

Sorokin taught us: when the body becomes the altar, the spirit rots. And so in your words I hear not joy, but the crackle of a world already burning. The republic worth saving does not kneel before the stomach, but bows only to Truth, to sacrifice, to the God who tests men with hunger and hardship.

Raspberries and belly buttons - bah! These are the toys of an infantile age, the clowns of a dying empire. A true citizen girds his loins, not bares them; he stands upright, not sprawled giggling. The Leader is not your nursemaid, nor your buffoon. Better you remember this, brother, before the raspberries turn into chains.
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #639
Sorokin taught us: when the body becomes the altar, the spirit rots

Сорокин sits in Berlin, like a bourgeois pig - making vague pronouncements about what is to come.

He has no longer any right to read us lectures.

Look at this interview (his first in... forever):

The guy interviewing him is perhaps Russia's most famous film critic. A guy who is not stupid himself. So the interview turns out rather well.

This is not the Sorokin that we knew.

Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12501
3 Oct 2025   #640
Europe is moving....slowly but still.....

Poland wants to join Nato fuel supply pipeline

zeit.de/politik/ausland/2025-10/nato-polen-beitritt-pipeline-system-kraftstoff-versorgung-truppen

Poland plans to build a 300-kilometer-long pipeline that will connect to the NATO supply network. The pipelines will supply NATO troops with fuel.

The government is planning a 300-kilometer pipeline that would stretch from the German border to the northeastern Polish army base in Bydgoszcz, a NATO training site, said Poland's Deputy Defense Minister Cezary Tomczyk.

The Polish government and the national pipeline operator Pern jointly presented the €4.7 billion project.

It is "one of the largest investments in the security of the Polish state in the past 30 years," said Tomczyk. The project is still in the planning phase, with Poland receiving financial support from NATO. All 32 members of the defense alliance must approve it before construction can begin. ...

Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #641
@Torq

Congratulations.

Thanks to you I just watched 5 minutes of Sorokin's interview, and now I am completely depressed.
Velund  1 | 537
3 Oct 2025   #642
He has no longer any right to read us lectures.

Кто проповедь прочесть желает людям
Тот жрать не должен слаще, чем они.

;)
Torq  21 | 1870
3 Oct 2025   #643
Сорокин sits in Berlin, like a bourgeois pig (...) He has no longer any right to read us lectures.

:(

the interview turns out rather well

Thank you! I'll watch it with great interest tomorrow and let you know what I think. * thumbs up*

Кто проповедь прочесть желает людям Tот жрать не должен слаще, чем они.

Well said, tankist. :) Too bad I can't stay longer on PF today. Take care, pебята!
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #644
Кто проповедь прочесть желает людям
Тот жрать не должен слаще, чем они.

Мужику 70 лет - а выглядит лучше чем я....

Jokes aside - the man is a giant. Probably the best author we have alive, right now. A true Russian writer.

It's a miracle he still manages to even exist.

Head and shoulders above Pelevin, and Prilepin (who now spends all his time in the Donbass).

A supernova, a heavy magnetar star - compared to clowns like Akunin, Bykov, Limonov, Minayev, etc.
Velund  1 | 537
3 Oct 2025   #645
One more post from Tatyana Montyan tg channel...

Wikipedia controlled by the CIA? Come on! 🤣

Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger said in an interview (tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-larry-sanger) with Tucker Carlson that Wikipedia has long since strayed from its original concept of being a neutral repository of information and is under the strong ideological influence and control of the American secret services.

It's not that we didn't know all this already, but now those who, in response to such statements, tapped their fingers on their temples and called us conspiracy theorists can quickly and decisively go fcuk themselves 😁

Sanger states outright that since 2007, some Wikipedia articles have been edited directly from IP addresses belonging to the CIA and other American intelligence agencies, and that many of Wikipedia's "authoritative authors" may in reality be employees or at least agents of these intelligence agencies. As for the editorial team, Sanger calls it "politically motivated" and claims that the editorial policy is aimed at presenting information on Wikipedia from a certain angle and in certain interpretations.

I repeat: even without Sanger, all this was generally obvious to anyone capable of analyzing information even remotely adequately. However, belief in "neutral and independent" organizations and structures on the internet is so strong that very, very many people thought that Wikipedia was "not like that." Well, it is just like that, even more so than many others!

So be aware: if you quote Wikipedia in conversation with someone, or worse, form your own opinion about a person or event based on Wikipedia data, it is quite likely that you are literally operating on information created by the CIA! Do you really want that?

PS. By the way, this is precisely why I have said and continue to say that we really need alternatives to Wikipedia and other services that are at least independent of foreign intelligence agencies, such as Ruwiki. The main thing is that they are done properly, and not just for the sake of skimming off the top of the state coffers!

Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #646
Tatyana Montyan

You may as well post updates from Mickey Mouse and Daffy Duck.

They won't read what Montyan writes - even though they should.

The way to talk to these foreigners, is mystically.
Velund  1 | 537
3 Oct 2025   #647
They won't read what Montyan writes - even though they should.

This is not my problem, really. If fate decrees that I will be looking at them through a tank targeting sight, my conscience will be clear. I did everything I could to help them get out of the virtual world in which they were held hostages by the Anglo-Saxon propaganda. ;)
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #648
if fate decrees that I will be looking at them through a tank targeting sight, my conscience will be clear

Kania would have certainly had no hand in bringing about the situation, where we look at each other only through tank sights.

Neither would personalities like Maf and CMS Neuf.

We are small people, living in a big world.

Our best chance is to be human with each other.
OP Novichok  8 | 10803
3 Oct 2025   #649
Our best chance is to be human with each other.

You can be humane and still assassinate Z and his apostles first...

By the end of February 2022, Kiev's government sector should have been like Gaza today.
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #650
still assassinate Z and his apostles first...

No.

He must be put in a cage, and paraded through every town and village in Russia - on his knees - with a dog leash under his neck.

With every Russian grandmother and grandfather throwing a rotten piece of cabbage at his face.

He is a traitor, and a dog. He must be treated as a dog - he does not deserve a merciful bomb on his head.

He must beg on his knees for the pain and loss he has caused.
Velund  1 | 537
3 Oct 2025   #651
Our best chance is to be human with each other.

My patronymic is not Jahvevich. And not even Jesusovich. I do what I can, and I'm not trying to work miracles. ;) I could fire a high-explosive fragmentation round at a crowd celebrating the death of my compatriots. ;) In a Christian human way, without unnecessary malice and hatred.
Miloslaw  24 | 5543
3 Oct 2025   #652
Our best chance is to be human with each other.

Great advice, just a shame that Russians think otherwise.
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #653
I could fire a high-explosive fragmentation round at a crowd celebrating the death of my compatriots.

I could and would do this. But these Poles, except for some mentally sick ones - they don't cheer the death of our people.

It's inevitably the expats. Who have no stake. Who have no history. Who will not have to suffer the consequences.

They are cartoon characters - and to take them seriously is to kid oneself.

We have to speak to Poles, and Poles only. Not the foreign elements living within.
cms neuf  1 | 2231
3 Oct 2025   #654
. If fate decrees that I will be looking at them through a tank targeting sight, my conscience will be clear

One step at a time - first you will need to find a tank that has fuel and working forward gears
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #655
One step at a time - first you will need to find a tank that has fuel and working forward gears

I really think you do not want people such as Velund, climbing into tanks and preparing for death.
cms neuf  1 | 2231
3 Oct 2025   #656
No I don't - so a good start would be for North Nigeria to withdraw from their peaceful democratic neighbor. Then nobody else needs to get killed
Bobko  28 | 2794
3 Oct 2025   #657
@cms neuf

We would have finished the job three years ago, if you lot didn't feel it was your job to get involved.

Many people would still be alive today.

On your conscience all this death.
OP Novichok  8 | 10803
3 Oct 2025   #658
I really think you do not want people such as Velund, climbing into tanks and preparing for death.

No tanks. Those are obsolete.

A never-ending barage of hypersonic things into Kiev. Forget bridges and power plants.

Firing squads aim at the heart or the head, not the knees.

On your conscience all this death.

These motherfvckers know it, but won't admit it because it feels good to be doing something...even if it kills and destroys...

Good hero movie material...
cms neuf  1 | 2231
3 Oct 2025   #659
Right - splendid logic. How can I sleep tonight knowing that I ordered 300.000 men to invade peaceful Ukraine

North Nigeria will finish this job once they reach the bottom of this half liter
Miloslaw  24 | 5543
3 Oct 2025   #660
As I have said MANY times before,Russia is losing this war......




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