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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 24


Mr Grunwald  34 | 2263
1 day ago   #211
...a proof that a country

U.S has really turned you brain dead. What's next? Can't throw trash in the trash can cause it would infringe the freedom of leaving it at the pavement?

Or can't paint books black cause it would hurt the feelings of some of your citizens and make them more caged then free? Your shackles are invisible yet you wear them with pride.

Mine got locks I can open and lock freely cause I was given a key. You know nothing of freedom. Only of chains
OP Velund  2 | 557
1 day ago   #212
From Mikhail Khazin tg channel (someone here know who it is and even know titles of their published books)...

The virtual reality of the painted picture of the world is crumbling, and now everyone will see a completely different picture

· The meeting in Alaska is a very curious phenomenon. But even more curious is the reaction to it from all the players involved, especially in the EU and the UK.
· Trump is operating under extremely severe constraints. Moreover, he is simply a representative of the American elite groups of national orientation that supported him.
· Trump's meeting with Putin will radically change this format. Trump will learn a lot, and he will gain an alternative perspective. He will be able to better understand how to use various levers of influence. In a very complex dynamic equilibrium, even a small additional weight thrown onto the scales can radically change the situation. Trump's meeting with Putin is a new factor that no one has taken into account. And we do not know the weight of this weight.
· Trump needs Putin much more than Putin needs Trump. But their meeting radically changes all the virtual constructs that were drawn up in London, Brussels, Berlin, and even Washington. The logic was not that they had built a certain system, but that they pretended that this system existed, even though it did not.
· At a meeting with Pashinyan and Aliyev in Washington, Trump destroyed the control system that London had been building for many years with a single move. The agreement with Zelensky is from the same opera. It's like Papa Carlo's fireplace-everyone thought there was a fire burning there, but it was just a picture. And the overwhelming part of the geopolitical reality that had been painted in recent years turned out to be an illusion that can be easily destroyed.
· Peace and tranquility in the South Caucasus and the Middle East are only possible when they are provided by an empire. There are three empires in this region: Russian, Persian, and Ottoman. The Ottoman sultan has other things to worry about right now. The Persian Empire has its own problems with Israel and in the Gulf. And Russia will not interfere there until it is called upon to do so.
· Everyone now understands that the current Ukrainian regime is doomed on the battlefield. And then everyone unanimously says that Putin will negotiate with Trump about the situation in Ukraine, and various leaks have been released. But all this talk only makes sense if there is a regime in Kiev that will agree to this, and Zelensky has already refused.
· The painted picture of the world began to crumble with the announcement of the meeting between Trump and Putin. Now everyone will see a completely different picture, and it will be different for different actors. But many will find that there are no resources left, only ruins. And it is precisely their own doing.
· The situation in Germany is better than in the UK. It is better in the US than in Germany. At the same time, Germany's current political elite is under the control of London, whose goal is to destroy Germany. London will not be able to capture Western Europe as long as a unified Germany exists, so they need to destroy it by setting it against Russia. This is their political strategic goal. Because the UK can no longer do anything based on its domestic market.
· In the UK, this decline will be endless. The situation is similar in the US, because it is impossible to lower the standard of living of the population too much there. Demand must be stimulated all the time, now only from the budget. And Chinese goods cannot be replaced by anything. There are complications with India, Indonesia, and Vietnam.
· The stability of any financial market, even in very favorable conditions, is primarily a matter of faith. And as the virtual picture is destroyed, absolutely catastrophic events can occur - how can there be faith when you thought you were surrounded by a blooming garden, only to discover that all that is left are charred stumps?

johnny reb  50 | 8402
1 day ago   #213
The only way Putin gets what he wants is via TACO.

Yup and when Teflon Trump sits down with him in Alaska on Friday he better not try to play anymore of his games because Trump will tell Putin to come back when he is serious about ending the war and Trump will stand up walk out on him.
Novichok  7 | 10426
1 day ago   #214
You are right to put "breakthrough" in inverted commas

Bold type is a quote.

The front line is where it always has been - 6km from Pokrovsk.

There was no front line in Japam in 1945 and the US beat the fvck out of these motherfvckers...
Novichok  7 | 10426
1 day ago   #215
Polish PM blasts 'local idiots' after neo-Nazi flag scandal

57 Ukrainians and six Belarusians face deportation following disturbances at a rap concert in Warsaw's National Stadium


I am so proud of you, my Ukrainian brothers...The right to free speech is what this war is all about...and "freedom"...

Beyond that, I have no idea why anyone would want to die for Z-P=0...especially those who already speak Russian...
Novichok  7 | 10426
1 day ago   #216
West 'used' Ukraine - EU state's PM
Kiev backed a plan to weaken Russia that fell short, and will now have to "pay dearly," Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has said


With that statement, Fico has become an FSB agent...Or a NAZI...
Ironside  52 | 13618
1 day ago   #217
as become an FSB agent...Or a NAZI...

He became yet another person who talks about politics without any understanding.

Everybody is using everybody else. Ukraine is using the EU and the US, and both entities are involved with Ukraine. Meanwhile, Russia is using China, and China is using Russia. That's how things go, but politicians shouldn't talk about it too much. If Figo Fago speaks this way, it means he's not a politician but a performer.

Oh, and everyone is using Poland while Poland isn't using anyone. We have doormats instead of politicians. Phew!
Alien  29 | 7275
1 day ago   #218
Oh, and everyone is using Poland while Poland isn't using anyone

This is obviously not true. Poland uses all of them in a very sophisticated way.
OP Velund  2 | 557
1 day ago   #219
Poland uses all of them in a very sophisticated way.

And this way is SO much sophisticated, so Poland regularily cease to exist...
Alien  29 | 7275
1 day ago   #220
regularily cease to exist..

You mean once, but after 126 years it was rebuilt because the invaders waged an idiotic war which the Poles took advantage of.
OP Velund  2 | 557
1 day ago   #221
but after 126 years it was rebuilt because the invaders

126 years and still invaders? Hm, austro-hungarian invaders into russian Malorossia have little chances to "legalize" itself then.
Torq  19 | 1809
1 day ago   #222
after 126 years it was rebuilt

123 years

and still invaders?

The Irish considered the English invaders still after 800 years :)
mafketis  43 | 11715
1 day ago   #223
Not sure if this has been mentioned here..... but Trump's useless idiot Witkoff went to visit 'putin' and the russians couldn't resist the urge to humiliate him.

They presented him with a medal "the order of lenin" to give to the CIA guy whose worthless son died for putin while fighting for russia in Ukraine....

The russian public eats up occasions of the russian government humiliating westerners (esp Americans) so this meeting in Alaska is going to not be anything different.

The question is will Trump eat it like he has in the past and talk about what a great relationship he has with putin or will he find his b@lls again?

Time will tell....

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cms neuf  1 | 2185
22 hrs ago   #224
I am guessing Golden Cow is going to play firm. He just gave the Chinese the TACO treatment with tariffs yesterday and he will hate the narrative that he is a dictator's *****.
Ironside  52 | 13618
21 hrs ago   #225
This is obviously not true.

Instead of being stubborn, you could use this opportunity to learn something from me.
Novichok  7 | 10426
20 hrs ago   #226
126 years and still invaders?

Columbus was an invader, I guess...

Ukraine is using the EU and the US,

Dear Iron, I am shocked...A country that is on the brink, that lost millions of its citizens to migration and violent deaths, and wouldn't last a week without US aid and approval is using the US? Really?

How about the US using Ukraine to weaken Russia and keep its MICC warmongers fat and happy?
Ironside  52 | 13618
20 hrs ago   #227
How about the US using Ukraine to weaken Russia

using the US?

Both are true at the same time.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 844
18 hrs ago   #228
or will he find his b@lls again?

Maf, you can dislike someone without being ridiculous. When a man raises his fist after being shot, with blood covering his face, and shouts "fight, fight, fight," calling him ballless is absurd. Only someone truly courageous would dare to label the most courageous president in history as ballless. Even then, that comment would sound foolish. Are you sure your bravery is genuine? I would expect a comment like that from the Golden Moron, not from you.
Novichok  7 | 10426
18 hrs ago   #229
I am desperately trying to agree with you, but I for the hell of it don't see any Ukraine's gains from using the US as a party to this war.

Unless the plan is to let Russia bomb the fvck out of Donbas and, when the war is over, demand money from the US to rebuild it.

That plan would make sense except that the probability of Donbass ever being Ukrainian is less than zero.
OP Velund  2 | 557
18 hrs ago   #230
The embarrassment of Russia just goes on and on......



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Novichok  7 | 10426
18 hrs ago   #231
Are you sure your bravery is genuine?

It's a new kind...Bravery from behind a cardboard with A5 on it.

Or the kind kids practice every day..."I hate you, mom!" while she is carrying the little bastard in her arms...ready to die defending the little stupid azzhole...
mafketis  43 | 11715
18 hrs ago   #232
calling him ballless is absurd.

How would characterize his endless 'two more weeks' approach to russia?

russia keeps playing for time and he keeps giving it....

I was all for him when he seemed to be lowering the hammer but this meeting will likely be an embarrassment.
Novichok  7 | 10426
18 hrs ago   #233
russia keeps playing for time and he keeps giving it....

I have perfect solution ...you are going to like...

Trump should give Russia an ultimatum and the first time Russia ignores it...full frontal nuclear attack on Russia...

Am I a genius or what?

Memo to stupid Polaks:

You mean nothing beyond being a landing strip for American pilots and an expense to the US taxpayers. Speak your BS slowly and very carefully.
Lazarus  3 | 572
18 hrs ago   #234
Unless the plan is to let Russia bomb the fvck out of Donbas and demand money from the US to rebuild it.

Why rebuild Donbas? It's a post-industrial sh!t-hole. Most of the cities there don't even have piped water these days, let alone potable piped water.

Also, why demand money from the US? There's plenty of Russia money in the banks of Europe. Ukraine just needs that to rebuild with.

Well, mostly to rebuild with.
OP Velund  2 | 557
17 hrs ago   #235
Also, why demand money from the US?

Easy. US supplied more than half of funding (both directly and through huge "unreturnable" Federal Reserve stabilisation credits to EU central bank) that was used to destroy civil infrastructure in Donbass. So, if FedReserve silently provided billions of fresly "printed" dollars in credits (with audit prohibited by law) and never thinked about US taxpayers, it should be no problem to print some more dollars for rebuilding of at least half of that was destroyed using US funds. ;)
Novichok  7 | 10426
17 hrs ago   #236
Also, why demand money from the US?

Because we are super stupid and generous. See the Marshal Plan.

Novi plan would make part of Europe a US possession...just like Gitrmo. Everybody out...Americans only.

BTW, half of Kuwait should be a permanent US possession, too.

Most of the cities there don't even have piped water these days, let alone potable piped water.

Did you notice the difference between Warszawa and Praga? We should thank Hitler. Without his help, Warszaw would now be a smelly delapidated shlthole...See the photo...

It's Radom 2017. A city that was spared...


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Lazarus  3 | 572
17 hrs ago   #237
US supplied more than half of funding (both directly and through huge "unreturnable" Federal Reserve stabilisation credits to EU central bank) that was used to destroy civil infrastructure in Donbass.

I don't think I've ever read anything more stupid than somebody claiming that the Federal Reserve funded, via the EU central bank (which doesn't even exist), the Russian army.
OP Velund  2 | 557
17 hrs ago   #238
via the EU central bank (which doesn't even exist)

ecb.europa.eu

The European Central Bank (ECB) is the central bank of the European Union countries which have adopted the euro.

USD was sent back to US financial market and fresh crunchy Euro was printed for this amount... Then military supplies was bought for AFU and used to shell Donbass cities (both for 8 years before intervention of Russia, and after that).
Novichok  7 | 10426
17 hrs ago   #239
The Federal Reserve has been funding the death of a country plus 1 million men. Without the "Feds", this war would last a month.

Memo to Brits and other idiots:

Never come to a gunfight with a spoon.

Never argue with a Russian. He will eat you alive.
Lazarus  3 | 572
17 hrs ago   #240
The European Central Bank

Yes, I know that one, but you claimed there was a "EU central bank".

used to shell Donbass cities (both for 8 years before intervention of Russia

Cities in Donbas were being shelled from 2006 onwards? How did the world miss that happening?!


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