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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20


Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1441
In that sense, Trump is very New York.

In my opinion, Trump is all of the above. Plus a patriot...
Przelotnyptak1  - | 766
2 days ago   #1442
or, crazy idea, start to improve the US economy which was doing ok until he showed up).

I am primarily a reasonable person, But after a month of reading utter nonsense, I started considering the possibility of burning your village and taking your women
into sexual slavery.
OP cms neuf  2 | 1984
2 days ago   #1443
Since Trump started

- inflation up
- investment down
- dollar down sharply
- stock market down
- significant withdrawals of cash from the US

Facts, not nonsense. Golden Cow is bad fir business
Bobko  27 | 2275
2 days ago   #1444
Since Trump started

Trump has been terrible for the economy. So far. I mean there should not be a debate - the statistics are available for all to see. Even Trump doesn't argue that things have gotten worse.

However, recently he has changed his tune and now argues that "some measure of pain" is necessary.

This is a more nuanced position. It actually has some backing from economists... but it is a gamble.

Maybe, the United States will experience some kind of necessary correction, but will emerge healthier and more competitive than anybody, anywhere else - who had not employed the same drastic measures.

Alternatively, it could trigger the start of a long secular decline, which will bring America back closer to the European averages (where it was in the early 2000s) and end the longest running growth spurt in American history.

I think this forum is not the right place to discuss the specific impact of Trumponomics.
Miloslaw  22 | 5269
2 days ago   #1445
Trump has been terrible for the economy. So far.

He has and it will only get worse.
Tariffs will hurt everyone but the USA most.
Think about it, if foreign cars become more expensive, their sales will decline.What will American car makers do?
They will put their prices up!
Result = Americans pay more for new cars, all of them!!
And remember, most American cars have foreign made components.

Totally idiotic.
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1446
- stock market down

When you inflate a ballon with the funny stuff like fake money expect it to leak out or it will burst.

Dow went up 27% in 2023 and 2024.

What the fvck justified THAT? You didn't have any problems with it, did you? What in the US economy drove it? GNP? Or fed debt?

Is every Polak a moron?
Tariffs will hurt everyone but the USA most.

Tarriffs are the only way to force manufacturing back home.

Cars made in the US are not subject to tariffs. There...
Miloslaw  22 | 5269
2 days ago   #1447
Cars made in the US are not subject to tariffs. There...

But foreign cars will be, you ignore the fact that American car manufacturers will put their prices up.

Who loses? Americans.
Joker  2 | 2468
2 days ago   #1448
Cars made in the US are not subject to tariffs. There...

Just ban all foreign cars, we dont need them at all. Let them sell those BMWs on the Chinese market or India likes them too...
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1449
manufacturers will put their prices up.

You are underestimating the power of the feds. See University of Columbia...

These woke morons folded like a broken beach chair when threatened with a loss of 400M. The same with pro-trans NCAA...no more men pretending to be women. Just like that...

Euros, keep your junk nobody wants after 50k miles.
Miloslaw  22 | 5269
2 days ago   #1450
Just ban all foreign cars

But yanks love Jaguars, Rolls Royce's,Bentleys, Range Rovers, BMW's, Mercs,Porsche's,Lexus and Italian sports cars!

What will your "Influencers" on the internet pose in?????
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1451
But yanks love Jaguars, Rolls Royce's,Bentleys, Range Rovers, BMW's, Mercs,Porsche's,Lexus

That's not where the votes are.

Those who buy those cars lost last November.
Miloslaw  22 | 5269
2 days ago   #1452
Those who buy those cars lost last November.

So, what heaps of American $h1t cars are Yanks buying?
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1453
Not Euro junk...

caranddriver.com/news/g60385784/bestselling-cars-2024/
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1454
Russia will 'finish off' Kiev's forces - Putin
The Ukrainian people must realize they were duped by the Western dream of inflicting a "strategic defeat" on Russia, the president has said


Good. Please hurry...I want to visit Russia this summer...

"Their European handlers... convinced the Ukrainian leadership that they had to continue armed resistance, essentially to the last Ukrainian, with the goal of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia," he said.
Novichok  4 | 8832
2 days ago   #1455
A reader's comment from RT - the best news source on Earth:

You really believe the US will launch over Europe? Or that France and UK will launch over another NATO country?
There is no Nuclear Umbrella deal for them, and the US has made it clear it will not go nuclear over Europe.


Read and retain, stupid Euros...
Przelotnyptak1  - | 766
2 days ago   #1456
And remember, most American cars have foreign made components.

So there will be tariffs on the components.

.What will American car makers do?They will put their prices up!

Are you sure? The way I see it, more American cars sold mean more profit without meed to raise prices.
only snobs by foreign, overpriced cars.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 766
2 days ago   #1457
American car manufacturers will put their prices up.

Nostradamus, how do you know? Oh, you just know, got it.
Bobko  27 | 2275
2 days ago   #1458
When you inflate a ballon with the funny stuff like fake money expect it to leak out or it will burst.

Yeah - this in a nutshell.

American technocrats - around 2008-2009 - figured out a way to forever avoid recessions.

In the past, recessions were a cyclical and routine thing. But Ben Bernanke and Co. (Bernanke spent much of his time at Princeton studying the Great Depression) - came up with some novel magic that makes a recession go away anytime there is a threat of one.

One tool was TARP - the Troubled Asset Relief Program. This was run by Treasury. It involved buying literal sh*t from banks - to keep them afloat. I mean sh*t like toxic mortgage related assets. The other part of TARP was Treasury simple injecting money into banks directly.

The other and much more powerful tool was QE, or Quantitative Easing. This was run by the Fed, rather than Treasury. If TARP involved "only" $700B, then QE ran into the trillions. Under QE, the Fed bought long term securities like Treasuries, mortgage-backed securities, and other stuff that helps lower interest rates and pump more money into the economy.

On top of stuff like QE and TARP - Biden and Trump did another thing to keep the gravy train running. Gov spending. COVID was of course the main excuse.

Pre-COVID, in 2019, the Federal Budget was $4.4 trillion. Last year, in 2024, the Federal Budget was $6.75 trillion. That's an increase of 54% within 5 years.

When Uncle Sam spends an extra $2.4T every year, of course everything is gonna be hunky dory - and employment, and GDP growth, and stock market performance...

So that's the more nuanced position Trump, Musk etc are getting after when they begin to talk about "necessary pain". If Musk succeeds in his goal to cut $1T from the US budget - that will almost certainly trigger a recession.

Is it worth it? Will it help maintain American productivity and competitiveness over the long run? Nobody knows. After almost twenty years of sitting on the needle of cheap money, it's very hard to imagine a world where things go back to the way they were pre-2008.

An entire generation of bankers has grown up that has never seen a recession except for in textbooks.
OP cms neuf  2 | 1984
2 days ago   #1459
Your solutions - ban all foreign cars and get the federal govt to control car prices - are straight out of the PRL you left behind.

Anyway, enough about tariffs, which no Golden Cow voter understands. Rumor is that one of Putler's limos caught fire last night and he wants his secutiry detail changed (something else he has in common with Golden Cow)

And of course, they continue to attack civilians as they can make zero headway down in Pokrovsk
Alien  26 | 6572
2 days ago   #1460
Rumor is that one of Putler's limos caught fire last night

Since the Aurus uses largely foreign parts, mainly from South Korea, and now there is an embargo on them, it's no wonder the russians have big problems maintaining these cars.
mafketis  38 | 11288
2 days ago   #1461
around 2008-2009- figured out a way to forever avoid recessions.

Is this like California where they figured out a way to forever avoid wildfires by never collecting underbrush?

The word that best describes the modern economy is scam.. all scams all the time... (I include kicking the can down the road, the EU's specialty, as a political scam).

Every aspect of the US economy is geared toward rigging the system.

Hell is what there will be to pay....
Crow  155 | 9736
2 days ago   #1462
Speaking about Moldavia

How I just learned, Russia and Putin now have two legal reasons for intervention in Moldavia. He already have call for protection of local Russians from Pridnestrovlie, region within Moldavia. Now, he have political request from Gaugauzia, autonomous region on the south of Moldavia.
mafketis  38 | 11288
2 days ago   #1463
How I just learned, Russia and Putin now have two legal reasons

Where'd you find that? In your zhopa?
Crow  155 | 9736
1 day ago   #1464
@mafketis

Serbian media knows

Obraćanje Putinu, s molbom: Upotrebite čitav arsenal...
> b92.net/info/svet/115614/obracanje-putinu-s-molbom-upotrebite-citav-arsenal/vest

Jevgenija Gucul, liderka Gagauzije, autonomije na jugu Moldavije, koju su vlasti Moldavije privele, obratila se predsedniku Rusije Vladimiru Putinu s molbom da izvrši pritisak na Kišinjev kako bi je oslobodili.

Translation > Addressing Putin, with a request: Use the entire (political) arsenal...

Yevgenia Gutsul, the leader of Gagauzia, an autonomy in the south of Moldova, who was taken into custody by the Moldovan authorities, appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin to put pressure on Chisinau to release her.

Vesko Vukovic  1 | 294
1 day ago   #1465
JD

JD Vance came to Greenland, he was immediately shocked: "It's cold as $hit here! Nobody told me! "

x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1905665083872583764

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Protests in Greenland against the annexation

x.com/donkoclock/status/1904957879058071844

Under the 1951 agreement, the US has the right to unhindered visits to the Pituffik base, provided it notifies the authorities of Greenland and Copenhagen. The base is located on a strategically important route between Europe and North America and is key to the US ballistic missile early warning system.
Trump wants Greenland again
President Trump has again expressed his desire for the US to take control of Greenland, stating that it is of critical importance to national and international security.
"I think we will go as far as we have to. We need Greenland, and the world needs us to have Greenland, including Denmark," Trump said on Wednesday.
Vesko Vukovic  1 | 294
1 day ago   #1466


Denmark warns Trump: "You went too far" Trump: US will 'go as far as we have to' to get Greenland

It is interesting how so many people on this board are very quick to accuse Russia for grabbing other people's land while when USA does it they are usually rather silent.
mafketis  38 | 11288
1 day ago   #1467
when USA does it they are usually rather silent.

Try again ivan....

The idea of the US annexing Greenland by force is probably the stupidest fvvking idea by a sitting president since Obama wanted a 'reset' with russia.

Incredibly idiotic.

It would burn bridges with too many allies for nothing that can't be gained while respecting Danish/Greenlandic sovereignty.

We're not all hypocrites like serbs and russians...
Vesko Vukovic  1 | 294
1 day ago   #1468
China

uffff it's turning so red 😄 and it will only get worse, China rules. Portugal barely hangs on, Italy receives further investments from Mr. Xi, Australia is lost forever. Trump will be very angry when they show him this chart.
Torq  10 | 1257
1 day ago   #1469
This map is bullsh*t. Poland's largest trading partner in both 2000 and 2024 was neither USA nor China but Germany.
Tacitus  2 | 1275
1 day ago   #1470
Same counts for the Czech Republic, Denmark, Austria and probably a lot of other countries I am not bothering to check on.


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