Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20

AFU are valiantly leaving Kursk zone after completing their mission

bitchute.com/video/q1wgEy3hC8Wv

So, you do have cravings for nuclear explosions? You are such a savage, a murderous, tough.

No peace? Putin wont do a deal? Its crazy how hundreds of prisoners were swaped yesterday, and how the AP has released news that Putin and Zelensky reached agreement on the limited cease fire and that it is starting to be implemented. You know the AP, the reliably left wing globalist news source that feeds all the other reliably left wing sources. The terms of the limited cease fire were only totally agreed on in the last few hours. And both Zelensky and Putin are now saying the war will end this year.

This war is one that is very emotional for Russians and Ukrainians. It is not only about NATO and EU membership, its about historical items that bind these people together over centuries. No end to the war will come easily, but I imagine still a full cease fire will be in place by the end of June. And who is puting this together? Everyones boogie man Donald Trump.

Meanwhile Ukraine also got more F16s yesterday, and Ukraine has left Kursk. Where is Poland suppossed to get these nukes from?

The AP report does not say that. In fact shows the NNs only agreed not to hit energy infrastructure (which they have done anyway because it is obvious they will break any ceasefire)

apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-ceasefire-talks-drones-65c00a0afd130731e0e0c054ac528b44

There are still some Ukrainian forces in Kursk

Golden Cow has put nothing together except a hockey game (that I hope no decent hockey player will agree to play in)

There are some prisoner swaps but there always have been.

We will buy our nukes from whoever offers the best deal - Israel, South Africa, France ? Or we will build our own.

@cms neuf
Did you read the report? Did you read my post? I said limited caese fire. Are you really that fvcking stupid? Nukes? Poland isnt getting a nuke without causing a war. Tusk is a fvcking moron for suggesting it, and the US already told Duda its not happening. A nuke in Poland means a Russian invasion, or at the very least a preemtive strike somewhere on Poles. Getting Russia to end a war, and then provoking Russia by having a nuke in Poland is simply retarded thinking.

Exactly. There were also unofficial talks with Iran in the past, and I'm quite sure these lines of contact are also still open. With whom we will cooperate, if with anybody, in the process of getting our own nukes is a secondary matter. The most important thing is that there is a wide consensus, even among moderate political circles, that Poland needs to acquire nuclear weapons.

It's all a logical consequence of Golden Cow agreeing on and pushing to dismantling the 80-year-old, postwar, rule based legal order. But hey - he deported 11 Venezuelans and 5 Bolivians! That has to count for something, right?


The US can't tell us sh*t. Who the f*ck do you, retards, think you are? Our rulers? Think again.


Oooo, I'm shaking with fear. *eyeroll*

Yes it is a limited ceasefire - 30 days, energy only

But Zelensky had last week agreed to a much wider ceasefire, which Putler has ignored. So it is the NNNs who want to continue the war.

At least it seems to have shut people up about the Boris/Biden thing

russian talking point - not majority Ukraine sentiment (which is closer to "Why won't these maniacs finally leave us alone?")

@mafketis

I don't know how the American democratic system works, help me here - is there any way to offer Trump a different post and put a Democrat president in the Oval Office?

And Trump, so that he doesn't pout, could be offered some prestigious job in exchange... I don't know... lifetime Emperor of Idaho, or something like that.

Short answer: no, American democracy is a strict timetable system with no provision in the constitution for early elections, at least at the national level. At the state level and for Congress, occasionally they have 'special elections' to replace office holders who have died/changed positions but at the national level, no.

Were Trump to vacate the office, then Vance would become president (not a great idea for Europe, he's dominated by his Indian wife).

Here's the whole line of succession....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

More seriously, as some people now realize, he's a fundamentally weak personality who covers that up with bluster and who is largely malleable to those around him. In the first term it was Bannon/Kushner, I don't know who's shaping him now, maybe Musk.

Hmm... maybe we should send somebody with a strong personality to talk to him on behalf of Poland... Grzegorz Braun maybe? xD

Anyways, America is abandoning Ukrainians just like they abandoned South Vietnamese or Afghanis--nothing new under the sun. NATO, even if America formally remains its member, is not a credible defensive alliance anymore. The USA, UK and Australia will go their own way, and Europe will go her way. I wonder if it is not the right time for every country/block to deeply analyse and rethink all their current alliances.

Belarus and Russia is parts of United State, so moving tactical nuke warheads crossed only internal administrative borders.

I said it before... I'll say it again. If the US abandons Ukraine (it hasn't quite yet but very well might) in daft hopes of making an alliance with russia, then it will abandon Poland too.

Duda doesn't know how to hit Trump's 'submit' button the way that putin, netanyahu and orban do....

It needed to happen so those countries could realise their true potential.

Brian is easily the best analyst.



Russia Sees Right Through Trump's Continuity of Agenda, Rush to Freeze Ukraine War | Brian Berletić

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

>trump told the ukrops to sign over every power plant they have to the US for safeguarding

absolute lmao

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

absolutely not a joke

RT
@RT_com

'American ownership of those plants would be the best protection' - White House

President Trump apparently suggested that Ukraine should hand over all of its energy infrastructure to the US for 'protection'

That's what they call The Art of the Deal

x.com/RT_com/status/1902418915554390453

Those Ukrainian Jewish oligarchs must have really pissed off the Jewish mafia in USA for some reason.

This is just the strangest war...

People in Ukraine cannot make sense of the daily news updates these past few weeks. Especially this most recent one about handing over control of UA's nuclear reactors.

What's more - even people in Russia struggle to understand.

We may arrive at some point where Russians actually begin to feel bad for the Ukrainians.

Right now - on the Russian side - people still view this as a good lesson to Ukraine and to Europe regarding their misplaced trust in America. However, there's still an unpleasant taste left in the mouth.

Almost as if you were beating some mark in the street, and then a policeman arrives and himself kicks the victim in the ribs a few times. After catching his breath - he offers to part ways, but not before splitting the person's wallet and watch between yourselves.

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👍🏻 Confiscated NATO hardware being put to good use

You are insane. Being ignorant is one thing, but you are swimming alone in the sea of stupidity. As for qualifications for the office of the presidency, in your mind
D next to his affiliation is enough. Four disastrous years of Biden lunacy taught you nothing. Luckey for the world , mental farts penetrate only
obscure PF

The US is the one that controls all the kill switches on every piece of equipment, and every missile system made in the US or requiring US intelligence to be used. The US is the second largest nuke holder, and is the country who has protected Europe for the last 80 years. Poland will get a nuke when hell freezes over. Europe is trying to keep the US in NATO, still begging for continuing support for itself and Ukraine. Rulers? No. Controllers? 100 fvcking percent.

All the tough talk here is really funny. 99% of you have never been in a real fight, wouldnt have the balls to fight, and couldn't pull a trigger looking someone in the eyes. Nukes? Who the fvck in Poland wants to see Poland disappear from the map again? The time for Poland to get nukes was thirty years ago. Poland with a nuke is the same as a Palestinian with a suicide vest.

How about no shaping needed or required? President Trump is the best sharper possible. As for Musk, was he not the darling of the left just a few years ago?

Oh yeah, but the French did not abandon Vietnamese or Russian Afganis? They get a pass from Torq. It is all that counts, and the US is the incarnation of evil.

They don't...

This is real life and not the plot of a Hollywood movie.

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What the hell does that mean?

I do think there are too many hurdles to jump for Poland to become nuclear but your deluded hard man rant of a midget is unnecessary and quite laughable.


If they did it would kill US military exports. The US can withhold strategic services for more sophisticated weapons but cant prevent their use.

@Barney
Actually barney they can prevent their use. Not one HMARS in Ukraine was fired while the information, including satellite targeting information was withheld. And without that targeting, they dont launch. Do you think that if one of those systems fell into the hands of Russians, ISIS, or Hamas that there wouldnt be a fail safe to make them inoperable? That would be completely stupid to leave out of a design.

What my comment means is that if someone see's a Palestinian wearing a vest, they are going to try to take him out before it explodes. You dont think Russia would make sure Poland never got to use a nuke? And Poland would need thousands, not hundreds that would be shot down by Russian missile defense systems.

@PolAmKrakow

The US puppet state is currently engaged in genocide. They murder people for being Palestinian not for resisting occupation. The strategic services like targeting etc used in these advanced weapons is controlled by the US which can turn them off but there is no kill switch as such.

What North Nigerian missile defence systems are you talking about ?

They are rusty crap - the Ukrainians have easily evades them with home made drones and British and French missiles. Some of the NN defences are literally made of cardboard because the money for them was spent on handbags, yachts and footballers.

Pathetic, and it only needs 100 Polish nukes to mount ab effective deterrent

The North Nigerian system is actually judged to be more capable than the American one. It has not been used once during this war.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-135_anti-ballistic_missile_system

Regardless - nobody can reliably stop ballistic missiles. If a sufficient degree of saturation is achieved, any system can be breached.


All modern air-defense systems struggle with small, and slow moving targets. The United States faces similar issues, as demonstrated by all the unauthorized drone overflights of US territory.

In fact, the Ukrainians have probably the best in the world system right now for dealing with small drones. It's being studied and copied both in Russia and the United States. It relies on a distributed network of acoustic sensors throughout Ukraine, tuned to the specific frequencies made by the piston engines of Shahed drones.


100 nukes will only enrage Russia, and ensure your destruction. It's not enough to disable Russia, in any meaningful form.

Declassified documents show that the US planned to use at least 50 nuclear weapons for Moscow alone. It is a huge city, not just in population but also in terms of geography. It's large size, means many critical objects are far dispersed from each other. It has a wealth of hardened structures, intended to survive a nuclear blast. Finally, it has an ABM system - like Washington DC or NYC - so you need to ensure redundancy.

Basically - 100 nukes - if you are somehow able to deliver them on target, is only enough for Moscow and St. Petersburg.