Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

"If I may just throw out one idea loosely, if there is a negotiating table, I think we need to do something similar that was done in Kosovo," Finnish President Alexander Stubb said at the annual Munich Security Conference

reuters.com/world/europe/europe-needs-special-ukraine-envoy-get-meaningful-peace-role-finland-says-after-2025-02-16/

What NATO did with Kosovo was the biggest fraud. They froze the conflict with the idea of ​​finding a political solution, and then Kosovo declared independence under the patronage of KFOR, and almost all Western countries recognized it. And they won't be watching that movie in Ukraine because Russia learned a lesson from that situation.

The Russians are well aware of what happened and is happening in Kosovo. I do not believe that they will agree to such a fraud in Ukraine. Resolutions and contracts that after a few years are worth nothing to the detriment of only one party.

I have been in the US since 1967.

I never thought that being an arrogant, loud, and ugly American will one day feel so good.

Yet, in America you are aberration coz you are too skinny. Shame.

My favorite point of reference...

Hey, Russia-hating morons, guess what...What's good in Kosovo is good in Crimea and Donbass...hahahahahahahahahahahaha...eat shlt....

If you don't stop patting yourself on the back your arm will fall off.
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So you typed such a long post to say that? We know that is the way the cookie crumble.
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Not only in the US.
Funny that aberration like you talks about it.

I have a spare one...

Trump's statements just now:

- The war in Ukraine could have been resolved without territorial losses "even with intermediary negotiators" a few years ago. War could have been avoided diplomatically.

- The meeting between Russia and the USA in Riyadh was very good and further strengthened my belief in the possibility of resolving the Ukrainian conflict.

- Trump ruled out sending American troops to Ukraine, but he is not against the presence of European soldiers in Ukraine if Russia agrees

- There were no elections in Ukraine for a long time. No matter how hard it is for me to say it, Zelensky now has only 4% support.

- If Ukraine wants a seat at the negotiating table, it must organize elections.

- The Russians did not want to destroy Kiev, and if they wanted to, they could have done it for three years and they would have done it already.

- Zelensky does not know where half of the money that the USA sent to Ukraine is.

- Ukraine will have to pay or find out where the money disappeared.

Ukrophiles on life support apparatus 😁

Did Ukraine agree to Russia sending North Korean soldiers to fight in Ukraine ?


I have always wondered why unless Russia didn't want Moscow destroyed by Ukraine which they could if they wanted to.


Oh he knows alright.
When he retires in Miami in his mansion and on his 125 foot yacht you will too.

In 2022...

P to Z: You keep Ukraine whole and neutral. Crimea is ours.

Z to P: Sounds good.

B to BJ: Go tell Z to knock that crap about Minsk ...

BJ to B: Yes, sir!

B to BJ: Cool. Now show me where that shlthole is...What's the name?

BJ: B:It's Ukraine.

B to BJ: Whatever...

He sure does. He is Jewish for a reason.

The question is how much of it will go back to ... Where is Biden now?

Ukraine can't join NATO - Moscow

Why? Because we said so...

Simple. I like simple.

Funny how in a matter of a day that all the Ukraine supporters wanting the war to continue seem to have taken the inevitable position of the war will be ending. Trump, while a plain talking non political sounding president is getting the things he wants done, done. Z can end the war in a day now by saying he will end marshall law with a cease fire and hold elections. Thats all it will take. His term expired almost a year ago, and his support is lower than Bidens. Its over for him and he knows it. Bowing out now, and saving thousands of lives in the process at least allows him to walk away as someone who tried.

There will be no NATO. Maybe Ukraine is in the EU in ten years, if the EU exists in its current form in ten years. The EU will send a token peace keeping force, and things will remain calm for a while.

Poland is not a Russian target and will not be left in the cold by the US. There are over 30K military in Rzeszow alone, not including all the NGO's in Krakow. Strategically it makes more sense for Poland to become the "front line of democracy" than any other country with more US military. Going back to NATO military base designs of 1991 is not going to happen. There will be some more give and take but it would not surprise me to see a negotiated cease fire by Easter or sooner.

The Polish government says there are 10.000 US troops in Poland. Not 30.000 in Rzeszow (that would be 25 percent of the population there)

As always, your numbers are wrong

The NN position is to roll back NATO to 1991 borders

Everything else you write is North Nigerian talking point nonsense

@cms neuf
I trust what actual soldiers say. FO

Yes, you trust incorrect numbers.

Nothing new there

Totally clear to us now that Trump would also abandon Poland if Putler told him to. Time to make backup arrangements

who is us? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

If the US abandons Ukraine it will abandon Poland...

the last rhetorical gasp of the nafo bots, a reworking of if we we have peace in ukraine putin will attack nato.

thankfully the usaid funding for twitter rants will dry up soon and like the trannie stuff, the fad will pass.

Once again, Ukraine is not a US problem to solve. There are zero treaties with Ukraine for its protection with the US. What about Poland saying it wont send peace keeping troops to Ukraine? Is that Poland abandoning Ukraine? Same for Italy and all the others who are saying no to peace keeping. All the fvcking double standard bvllshit here with the US is beyond stupid.

If Trump meets with Putin this month, this war will end quickly. Z needs to agree to elections. If not he is probably tossed out on his a$$ in a coup by his own people. His time making demands of anyone is over.

The amount of time before a russian talking point appearing and you retweeting is getting shorter and shorter.....

russia wants 'elections' for only two reasons

-they think they can smuggle in a new yanukovych to do their bidding and russify the country

-they want to target polling stations

Just because it's a 'talking point' dosn't mean it's not true.

owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-guilt-by-association/

Da, da tovarisch!

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel, when you can't refute any of polams points but resort to argumentum ad hominem.

It's like calling people racist and Islamophobic all the time, in the end the labels become meaningless.

Anyway yours, and cmfs established reality for Ukraine is burnt to ashes, in the dustbin of history, whereas Polams reality is made whole by the grace of God and Trump.

It's for the best cmf can now focus all his energy on being able to afford one more bangledeshi worker to pick his tomatoes.

I get tired of refuting things and then people not looking up the sources and just repeating stale RT quotes...

Ukraine's constitution does not allow for elections in times of martial law. So martial law would have to be lifted _while the war is still on_ and elections would take place with no security guarantees (russia would target polling stations claiming there are soldiers there).

Refute that.

Obviously there would be a ceasefire before there are elections. I mean that's just primary school level logic. Prob a way to get russia to agree to a preliminary ceasefire instead of them holding out for a full agreement as they have stated.

And if a candidate is elected that is more pragmatic than zelensky, well that's the will of the people.

@mafketis
I have never read RT.

Ukraines constitution regarding elections can easily be made mute. Hey Vlad, if we lift marshall law in return for a cease fire, we will hold elections within 60 days, what do you think? Z holding elections in 60 days is no problem, our troops will stop firing immediately after you lift marshall law. Z is out on his ass in 60 days, and a real peace deal is made. Dying ends. Crazy how rational thinking leads to solutions I know.

As for who wins the elections that is none of the US business, and none of the EU's business until Ukraine is in the EU. Maybe some UN observers for the elections? Voting at every Ukraine embassy around the world, and how could Russia interfere with those votes?

russia has broken about 19 ceasefires with Ukraine so far.... what would make this one different? Wanna go and be an observer?


Despite the fact that the russian state has been in a state of war and hatred with the idea of Ukraine as an independent entity and Ukrainian as a linguistic and cultural label for 200 years.....

Yeah.... that'll fly.

Well one obvious way they can interfere is that 5 million Ukrainians are living under North Nigerian military occupation

When did the need to hold elections become a thing ? Has that happened in other ceasefires like in Gaza, Ireland, Cyprus etc ? Of course not

Would Putler agree to hold elections ? Of course not because North Nigeria is a sovereign country

Most of the time but not always..

After the original defeats in Ukraine, Lenin came to the conclusion that the formal independence of the Ukrainian state, coupled with concessions in the realm of language and culture, was absolutely necessary if the Bolsheviks were to maintain their control over Ukraine. He felt that Ukrainian aspirations to independence were so strong, not only among Ukrainians in general but even among the Bolsheviks themselves, as to require the granting of a degree of autonomy and a status equal to Russia within the Soviet Union, the new state whose creation was declared in 1922.

In the 1920s, the Bolshevik leaders took an unexpected turn. Identifying Great Russian chauvinism as the principal enemy and bidding for the allegiance of numerous non-Russian peoples within their re-constituted empire, they introduced what they called korenizatsia, usually translated as 'indigenisation' or 'nativisation'.
Under Mikola Skrypnyk 'Lenin's man in Ukraine', the Ukrainian language was installed in schools, universities and offices. Even Russian speakers were ordered to learn it,