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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 18


Novichok  5 | 7847
2 days ago   #121
having to fight them in Poland later on.

Poland has 1000 times more reasons to fear Germany than Russia. If you don't know why you are an idiot.
Crow  154 | 9455
2 days ago   #122
Its clear where this all go. One day, sooner then later, Germany and France would simple move on Poland.

And Vatican would call Poles not to resist. Why resist when Poland belong to Catholic civilization, they will announce.

Then dark corrupt armies would move. Entire sick western Europe. Mad from limitations in looting imposed on them on all other meridians. In Poland, Catholic land, they will sate their dark motifs.

With or without help from other Slavs, agony awaits Slavs of Poland.

Only timely reaction of Poland can prevent this. Only clear standing of Poland within Slavic world.
Alien  25 | 6022
2 days ago   #123
Germany and France would simple move on Poland.

Impossible, the Serbs will defend us.😀
Crow  154 | 9455
2 days ago   #124
Sure. Won`t be silence here. There would be turmoil. It will be noticed.

But, how things stand, in global chaos and grabbing that will occur, Serbia will have full hands when Turks move on Europe again. Then also when Italy move on Balkan.

Let us hope. Let us just hope that our mutual foes fails to coordinate. That we aren`t attacked at the same time.

And let us hope that Russia came to Danube. From that we both depend. Pray for it.

And pray that Hungarians don`t betray.
johnny reb  48 | 7640
2 days ago   #125
Soldiers sent by North. Korea to fight alongside Moscow's troops in southern Russia "got drunk on New Year's Eve," Ukraine's military intelligence said, claiming "fighting spirit of North Korean soldiers has plummeted."
They just want to go back home to their wives and girlfriends just like the Russian soldiers do.
Everyone is fed up with Putin's "special operations" that was suppose to take three weeks to accomplish.
cms neuf  1 | 1730
2 days ago   #126
Bad news for those Norks - they are never going home.

You think Kim wants them there now they have seen even the relative luxury of North Nigeria ?

After World War II, Stalin imprisoned and murdered many many UNNR troops that have been fighting in Germany. Same principle, he didn't want them telling the other slaves how the rest of the world lived.
cms neuf  1 | 1730
2 days ago   #127
Something weird that popped up in my social media - Fico has not been seen in public in Slovakia last few days. Nothing would surprise me with that guy

Anyway whatever happens he is finished as a European politician - there is no reason to indulge another moron. If the citizens of East Slovkia want to vote for him then fair enough
Lazarus  3 | 371
2 days ago   #128
Same principle, he didn't want them telling the other slaves how the rest of the world lived.

Exactly. Once they had seen toilets and understood how toilets work, they might have wanted those back in the UNNR!

Fico has not been seen in public in Slovakia last few days.

Perhaps he's still hungover from drinking away his sorrows about the Slovak state losing half a billion euro a year after Ukraine has finally turned off the supply of North Nigerian gas and now Slovakia can't charge transit fees?
Ironside  50 | 12512
2 days ago   #129
Once they had seen toilets and understood how toilets work,

It doesn't seem they grasped its function in most cases, or maybe it is a lack of plumbing, if all you have is a toilet seat without supporting technology there's limited use for it.
Crow  154 | 9455
2 days ago   #130
Everyone is fed up with Putin's "special operations" that was suppose to take three weeks to accomplish.

Don`t you see that Russia giving just enough time to EU and NATO to collapse. That on one side. On the other side Russia consolidate its own civilization.

While the USA also needs that time to consolidate its own civilization, too. You heard Trump... Greenland, Denmark, Panama,.. it gets shape. Add Britain and Ireland and that is about it.

Same principle, he didn't want them telling the other slaves how the rest of the world lived.

Its a lie.
Bobko  27 | 2056
2 days ago   #131
Rich and Bobko, please help me to understand.

Sure.

The Russian economy is equal to that of Italy

I'll put it in simple terms, and borrow a little from Ray Dalio (big hedge fund guy).

At the time Apple's valuation was around 2 trillion dollars, and the size of Russia's GDP was approximately the same.

Dalio said: "If somebody gave you a choice between owning Apple and owning Russia, what would you choose? I would choose Russia." Now that's a stupid comparison, because a company's market cap is the amount of money it would cost to own the company in its entirety for perpetuity... whereas GDP is just an annual figure. Still... maybe you see my point.

If given the choice, what country would you choose to own - Italy or Russia? I think 90% of the globe's citizens would choose Russia, without necessarily knowing anything about their economies. I think Italians themselves would be surprised at this comparison.

Why Russia is not Italy:

1) Russia has nearly the entire periodic table underground, and enough energy to power a quarter of the world. Italy is a net energy importer.

2) Russia's economy is much more geared towards resource extraction, heavy industry, and the military. Italy's is geared towards making consumer goods, which is great, but doesn't translate into much power projection ability.

3) Italy is tiny - that is, lacking strategic depth. If they get invaded, there's not much time on the clock before they have to fold. Russia's size makes it much harder to coerce.

4) Even though it's much reduced, Russia still has significant influence over countries in the former Soviet Union, in Africa, in Latin America. Italy has influence over nobody - not even Libya or Ethiopia.

5) Russia is a permanent member of the Security Council. Italy is not.

6) Russia has the world's largest nuclear arsenal. Italy doesn't possess a single nuke.

7) Russia has more than twice the manpower of Italy.

I could go on, but hopefully you can see that a simple head-to-head GDP comparison can obscure many important factors that are material to a discussion about Russian capabilities.
Bobko  27 | 2056
2 days ago   #132
Bottom line is that you can't compare nominal GDPs without taking into account the structural breakdown.

Making an Ariston washing machine and mining uranium get recorded the same way in dollar value.

One allows you to wash clothes, while the other allows you to power nuclear reactors or make bombs.

I never even mentioned the aspect of varying purchasing power. In PPP terms, Russia's GDP is number 4 in the world - ahead of Germany and Japan.
mafketis  38 | 10968
2 days ago   #133
Why Russia is not Italy:

In Italy.... organized crime is targetted by the government

in russia.... organized crime runs the government
Novichok  5 | 7847
2 days ago   #134
you can see that a simple head-to-head GDP comparison can obscure many important factors

One factor is clear: God has reserved a special place in Heaven for your patience and eloquence.

You forgot to mention that Russia's national anthem beats the crap out of Italy's...


Perfect.


What a joke...
in russia.... organized crime runs the government

There is a mental hospital somewhere in Poland waiting for you...
cms neuf  1 | 1730
2 days ago   #135
I think invading Italy with its mountains and long coastline would be very difficult. Especially for an army of alcoholics that takes 6 months to move their crappy cold tents a few km towards Pokrovsk.

As for the rest - well I can easily think of industries where Italy leads the world - optics, wine, fashion, excellent engineering and a highly educated population. You could fill pages with their gifts to the world. Certainly more impressive than some crappy oil and a few terabytes of amateur ****
Alien  25 | 6022
2 days ago   #136
God has reserved a special place in Heaven for your patience and eloquence.

Not in Heaven, but deep in hell.
Bobko  27 | 2056
2 days ago   #137
Italy leads the world

It was never my intent to denigrate Italy. I studied Italian for years, and am in love with the country. I think Italians and Russians have a great deal in common, in terms of temperament.

Since Soviet times, we have been exposed to Italian culture through movies and music (maybe because the Italian Communist Party was very strong). FIAT practically built our passenger car industry. Italian banks and oil companies were among the first to enter Russia after 1991.

Italy is a great country, but it's not quite as great as Russia.

What else would you expect a Russian to say?

Not in Heaven, but deep in hell.

Damn.
Alien  25 | 6022
2 days ago   #138
Damn

You'll love it. 👹
Bobko  27 | 2056
2 days ago   #139
You'll love it. 👹

The first person I will look for in hell is Copernicus.

Imagine how upset he will be, when I tell him he's now a Pole.
Alien  25 | 6022
2 days ago   #140
The first person I will look for in hell is Copernicus

He won't be there anymore, the Inquisition disappeared years ago.
Crow  154 | 9455
2 days ago   #141
!

`Ukrainian` TV faces incident in Warsaw > Serbian media rapports that what we see represent one more example of how Poland awakening >

"Slava Putinu, ukrajinska ku*vo!" Drama u Poljskoj, stanovnici Varšave žestoko napali voditeljku iz Kijeva!

Title translation .. `Glory to Putin, Ukrainian ku*vo!" Drama in Poland, residents of Warsaw violently attack a presenter from Kiev!`
link > informer.rs/planeta/vesti/976101/rusija-ukrajina-rat-slava-putinu-poljska?utm_source=novosti&utm_medium=novosti-widget&utm_campaign=novosti-razmena

VIDEO in article available !

Tako je braćo Poljaci. That`s it Polish brothers. Deflect from failed Slavs that were manipulated to sunk. In rank with Serbia, Hungary and Slovakia. That is only way to survive what inevitable coming when NATO and EU collapse.
Tacitus  2 | 1261
2 days ago   #142
Neither Italy nor Russia have the ressources and the capability to be Great powers in the 21th century. No European country does. The difference between them is that the Italians are aware of this, and are doing the best they can to maximize their influence, security and wealth. While Russia is squandering its' ressources in its' war against Ukraine in order to get more influence.

Putin is de facto mortgaging the future of his country in order to keep the war going. He may be able to postpone the payments, the coming bill will be a grim one indeed for the Russian people. What future awaits a country whose influenced rests on its ressources, military and arms industry when the best customers are gone, the army is a hollow shell and the arms industry has lost its' reputation?
Crow  154 | 9455
2 days ago   #143
While Russia is squandering its' ressources in its' war against Ukraine in order to get more influence.

Russia is just part of vast Slavic civilization.
Bobko  27 | 2056
2 days ago   #144
whose influenced rests on its ressources

As opposed to what? Why are China and the US trying to suffocate each other by cutting off rare earths? Why does everybody suck Saudi Arabia's penis? How did American LNG "save" Europe? Why does anybody bother talking to Qatar or Brunei?!

Resources/energy are the oldest instrument of power in the book.

military and arms industry when the best customers are gone

Hey, genius, I don't know if you noticed this or not - but the Russian military industry is not exactly starving for orders. What f*cking exports are you talking about, when our factories are working 24 hours a day in 3 shifts and we still can't satisfy the demand that the army generates?

We've had to cancel orders that other countries made, making many apologies along the way.

The military industry will be domestically focused for at least another ten years, as stockpiles have to be replenished.

They have been given more money, than they saw between 1991 and 2022 COMBINED.

For thirty years they were b*tching and moaning about how underfunded they were, and... true enough - export contracts kept them afloat. Well, now their biggest historical customer is back. They don't need to worry about selling anything to the Chinese or Indians, because we'll buy everything they make.

the army is a hollow shell and the arms industry has lost its' reputation?

I read an article just today, about how no Western or Eastern army is prepared to fight a war against either Ukraine or Russia. How's that for reputation?

We are writing the textbook right now, for how wars will be fought in the 21st century. All your military people must study our lessons very closely, if they have any hopes of competing.

There are no more capable armies in the world right now than Ukraine's and Russia's.
mafketis  38 | 10968
1 day ago   #145
Great powers in the 21th century

"Great Powers" is a 19th century concept that is deader than the dodo in the modern world...

russia _could_ have been a modern superpower but the sheeplike and infantile russian people instead decided to entrust their country to a stupid dictator who threw that possible future away....

our factories are working 24 hours a day in 3 shifts and we still can't satisfy the demand that the army generates?

The eternal russian sorrow: so many children's hospitals... so few missiles.....
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #146
The eternal russian sorrow

We learn it from you - from FDR specifically.

Economists call what Russia is doing now - Military Keynesianism.

Guess who invented and benefited tremendously from implementing military Keynesianism? That's right - Americans.

Russia is posting strong growth for the past three years, despite the heaviest sanction regime in history, precisely because the government is raining money on people.

Yes it drives inflation. Yes it creates very real risks of overheating.

But in the meantime, we have built more residential square footage than at the Soviet peak. We have developed entire industries which did not exist. We have become fully self sufficient in food.
pawian  222 | 26088
1 day ago   #147
Russia is posting strong growth for the past three years

Yes, in Kremlin statistics. Thank you for reminding us about it. :):):)

One question - how long more??? :):):):)

we have built more

Utter bollox. You built nothing. All funds were used to produce tanks and missiles.
Wypierdalaj!
Miloslaw  20 | 5036
1 day ago   #148
Poland has 1000 times more reasons to fear Germany than Russia. If you don't know why you are an idiot.

It is obvious that you are the complete idiot here.

Impossible, the Serbs will defend us.😀

HaHaHaHa!!!!

They just want to go back home to their wives and girlfriends just like the Russian soldiers do.

The Koreans hate this war and the Russians are fed up with it.Putin needs to be careful if he doesn't want a revolution on his hands!

I think invading Italy with its mountains and long coastline would be very difficult. Especially for an army of alcoholics

Very true and it took the allies in WW2 nearly 2 years to conquer Italy.

Russia is just part of vast Slavic civilization.

No it is not! Russians long ago separated from their Slav brothers by continually invading them! The only supporters they have left are the stupid Serbs and some slavicized Turks in Bulgaria!
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #149
Yes, in Kremlin statistics. Thank you for reminding us about it.

Try IMF and the World Bank.

That Russia continues to grow is a fact.

People debate the quality of this growth, and whether or not it sets Russia up for problems further down the road - but nobody debates that Russia is growing.

The strongest growth is happening within several distinct pockets, but the economy at large is growing as well.

The private sector is forced to compete with the state now, so salaries are exploding. Exploding incomes are driving huge growth in consumption.

The government has also made sure to insulate the population from inflation, by subsidizing mortgages. This has led to an explosion in residential construction. I think Russia is number two or three right now in the world, in terms of new home construction.

There are signs that the real estate market has overheated, and is headed for a painful correction - but as I said - in the meantime many millions of Russians have fulfilled their dream of home ownership.
Miloslaw  20 | 5036
1 day ago   #150
Ukrainians continue to outsmart the stupid Russians, who seem to think that their ruthless, meat grinder policies that worked for them in WW2 will work again.
But this is the 21st century and Ukrainians are smarter than Russians(Even the sober ones!)




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