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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 18


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11867
13 hrs ago   #931
I mean:

....sounds sensible. But then invading said country, destroying its cities and killing its people is so not helping with that!
Tacitus  2 | 1295
13 hrs ago   #932
Russia could have tried to make such an alliance appealing to Ukrainian people. Instead relied on bribery and corruption of some Ukrainian politiciansm
Bobko  27 | 2116
12 hrs ago   #933
Russia could have tried to make such an alliance appealing to Ukrainian people

The very last thing we did before annexing Crimea, is give Yanukovich a €15B loan.

We supplied them for thirty years with gas which was cheaper than for most Russians.

Russia's entire pop music and film industry is dominated by Ukrainians.

Russians owned the largest cell operator, the largest retailer, and the largest bank in the country.

What else, other than our own anus, can we offer the Ukrainians?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11867
12 hrs ago   #934
Russia's entire pop music and film industry is dominated by Ukrainians.

Now that is interesting! Who would have thought....
Bobko  27 | 2116
12 hrs ago   #935
Who would have thought....

Yes, they're a very dramatic and hysterical people.

Wonder who they got that from.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11867
12 hrs ago   #936
...the after-war-reconciliation will be either extremely difficult (Poles and Germans still don't see eye to eye after so many years), or easier than between other peoples, because of that old closeness and common history, I gather.
cms neuf  1 | 1838
12 hrs ago   #937
15 billion is about 300 per head for Ukraine

Big whoop

And it was a loan not a gift - pathetic
Tacitus  2 | 1295
12 hrs ago   #938
@Bobko

is give Yanukovich a €15B loan

Which was nothing compared to what EU membership would have offered Ukraine.

Ukraine is neighbouring Poland and Belarus. One joined the Western alliance, one joined an alliance dominated by Russia. By 2014 it was clear which benefited more. And the Ukrainians noticed. Russia has nothing comparable to offer Ukraine, and itself is not a model a free country would want to copy.

Colonial powers are not destined to have hostile relations with their former subjects. In fact, they can themselves greatly benefit from having cordial relations and may even form close alliances. Russia is squandered that opportunity for at least a generation. What a waste of potential. Which I would argue, is Russia's history in a nutshell.
pawian  223 | 27013
11 hrs ago   #939
can we offer the Ukrainians?

One major thing - leave them in peace aka odpierdolcie się Ruskie Mongoły od Europy. :):):)

We don`t need you here.

Wypierdalać!!! hahaha


cms neuf  1 | 1838
11 hrs ago   #940
Not all bad news for North Nigerians

themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/03/putin-signs-decree-creating-russian-eurovision-alternative-a87845

Intervision is coming back ! But no Rodowicz or Vondrackova - their nations long ago joined the Eurovision party.

25 countries have expressed interest - I reckon that includes Eritrea, Venezuela and the starving North Koreans

What a load of **** that is going to be
Alien  25 | 6333
11 hrs ago   #941
What a load of **** that is going to be

They will sing about hammers and sickles. 🤭
cms neuf  1 | 1838
10 hrs ago   #942
This is the dude who is going to be certifying the Intervision results, though he looks more at home discussing the falling output of a metallurgical factory in Omsk

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kiriyenko
Miloslaw  20 | 5119
9 hrs ago   #943
I don't know what your opinions are of the band Black Sabbath but whatever they are, you need to watch this video.
War Pigs = Russians.


Barney  19 | 1721
9 hrs ago   #944
The song is a protest about the imperial war in Vietnam.

It's interesting how propaganda works, started watching what was billed as a documentary about how that war of aggression changed the us. The first minute included the line "america intervened in a civil war", that's when it became crystal clear it wasnt a documentary but a propaganda puff piece. The rest of the episode confirmed my suspicion.
Miloslaw  20 | 5119
9 hrs ago   #945
The rest of the episode confirmed my suspicion.

Whatever! I just see it as an anti war song.

This is how Russia are supposedly "winning" the war in Ukraine...... Russians are idiots!

youtube.com/shorts/51QB5v0qnt0?si=nFtP5WFDZvtdfNSQ
Barney  19 | 1721
8 hrs ago   #946
@Miloslaw
It was written specifically about the US imperial war in Vietnam. As a British citizen you should thank the Labour PM Wilson for keeping you out of it.
Novichok  5 | 8714
6 hrs ago   #947
The song is a protest about the imperial war in Vietnam.

Hey, stupid...Learn English...

An imperial war is a war undertaken for the sake of ... enlarging the size of the imperialist nation or empire.

The US sure enlarged its size...after losing 58,000 men...

What a moron...
johnny reb  49 | 7984
5 hrs ago   #948
As a British citizen you should thank the Labour PM Wilson for keeping you out of it.

I hate to throw ants on your picnic Barns but you are wrong.
The Brits were involved in it,
amiga500  5 | 1504
5 hrs ago   #949
Far-right wing parties gained less than 5% of the votes in the last election

It was 15 to 30 percent in western ukranian areas, but it's irrelevant. As I have repeated ad-nasuem, it's not who gets the votes it's who has the brawn and the weapons, who is willing to use extreme violence, who runs the civil militia and night patrols, ie who controls the streets is what's important, and in Ukraine that is the Azovites/Banderites.

It's like in your motherland, no one voted for the islamists or the migrant criminal gangs, yet they still control some neighbourhoods with unofficial sharia, commit crimes with impunity, perform female genital mutilation on innocent children and sexually harass/abuse your daughters and granddaughters, yet you will say no one voted for them! it's all good!

yet despite this reality slapping you in the face you will still vote for SDP/Greens and demand more of the same. don't break your nails whilst voting pussy ass boy, gutmenschen cuck.
Tacitus  2 | 1295
2 hrs ago   #950
@amiga500

and in Ukraine that is the Azovites/Banderites

Nonsense. You realized that you assertions were baseless and now you are using nonverifiable arguments.

nails whilst voting pussy ass boy, gutmenschen cuck.

Ah, you are that kind od person, got it.
amiga500  5 | 1504
1 hr ago   #951
You realized that you assertions were baseless now you are using nonverifiable arguments.

I never made any assertions about elections. your whole post is a non answer. Non verifiable? Lolzo how about reading NGO and academic reports from before the invasion? as well as western backed media sources.

Answer me this, why is Islamism so prevalent in your fatherland when Islamists barely get any votes in Germany?
You made a series of dumb statements and now cat got your tongue, well better than a jihadist cutting it out i guess.
Tacitus  2 | 1295
49 mins ago   #952
"Ukraine has a serious problem with far-right elements even though there is no data backing this up with election results even contradicting this because Germany is a caliphate." Great argument.


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