Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16

US geopolitical control of EU is over - Polish PM
The bloc should not look to the outcome of the upcoming election, but take matters into its own hands, Donald Tusk has said

The age of European countries "outsourcing" their security to America has come to an end, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has warned. It does not matter whether the US presidential election is won by Democrat Kamala Harris or her Republican rival Donald Trump, he added.

Trump: Hey, Euros, take care of you own shlt and GFY...

Kneel down before the Genius, azhole!!!

lol just about fifty years too late. Tusk has been nothing but a disappointment as PM. The whole third way movement has been a disappointment. A whole lot of talk and little action or kept promises. Whats Poland going to do? Rely on Germany?

Hey, Am cretin, why do you utter such cretinous opinions?? I know - only to annoy decent people and apes in Poland. This means you are still an alien intrusion into this country. We made a big mistake accepting you as a citizen. :(:(:(

there's no winning with you is there? first you complain about Euros lax approach to defense and then you cackle 'too late' when a leader says the same thing....

I agree because as an American I realize my country is not a good or reliable ally.

@pawian
A mistake to allow someone to claim what is theirs? Poland and Europe should have prepared on their own for the last half century. Whats wrong about that statement?

@mafketis
My complaint is consistent. Tusk's statements are just hot air. Europe should have been preparing for decades. Tusk knows this, and so does everyone else. Yet he and other were happy to rely on the US. Now that the US is about to tell some countries to fvck off, Tusk wants to try to make a statement on the US? His words are as meaningful as his promise on abortion rights for women.

What is yours?? Poland should remain a decent country. We don`t need such Am crazies like you coz we have enough of our own rightists, nationalists, homo sovieticuses and Russophiles. You are polluting this country with your sick ideas.

No argument but the status quo was also comfortable for the US which didn't necessarily want the bigger European countries militarizing (esp Germany).

If the US was really bothered they would have simply stepped out of NATO back when it seemed peace was durable...

You don't live here. It is not your country.

Peace was "durable" on July 2, 1991 - a day after the Warsaw Pact was dissolved and especially on Dec 25 when the USSR poof disappeared.

Oh, fvck, said the US warmongers...we have to come up with another boogeyman...OK, how about Iran...

Darling, following this "logic" you mustn`t talk about Poland any more. :)P_:):|")

The Minsk agreements were struck by Russia and Ukraine in 2014 and 2015 between, having been mediated by the leaders of France and Germany. They were aimed at resolving tensions following the Western-backed Maidan coup that overthrew the legitimate government in Kiev.

Senior Ukrainian, German, and French officials have since openly admitted that they never intended to adhere to the agreements, but used them to buy time for Kiev to rearm.

...they never intended to adhere to the agreements...No shlt...

Moron (def.) - a person that trusts Western mother fvckers.

Awesome to see the Moldovans have chosen to reject NN influence and elected a modern leader

This despite the NNs loading aged Moldovans onto crappy Aeroflot planes and flying them to Minsk to vote

Let's get the Moldovans ready for NATO entry so they are protected from drunk NNs and starving North Koreans

Despite pulling out all the stops, despite death threats to journalists, cyber attacks and attempts to fly in russians to vote at moldovan embassies (among other dirty tricks) the russia-backed candidate failed.

Decisive once more were the votes of the diaspora in western Europe.... despite its flaws.... the EU and Europe offers a better life than russia can (which only appeals to infantile personalities who like to be fed and told what to do).

x.com/EuropeElects/status/1853325576943047068

Let the russian seething begin!

@Miloslaw
They banned discord application in Russia recently, talks been about banning Steam gaming plattform too. If Putin wants thousands upon thousands to march on to the streets to rebell against him. Why can't he take it a notch further and ban CS:GO and Dota2

It would make basically all young people in Russia boil over

Na....not all bad....we still have it....some! :)


focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/bitteres-fazit-zu-t-64-ukraine-soldaten-schwaermen-von-deutschen-leopard-panzern-reichweite-ist-hauptvorteil_id_260448721.html

At an unknown location in Ukraine, soldiers are practicing with German Leopard 2 A4 tanks - and are extremely enthusiastic. The battle tanks have enormous advantages over the Soviet T-64.

Ukrainian soldiers are training with the German Leopard 2 A4 battle tank at an unknown location in Ukraine and see clear advantages over the Soviet T-64. The Leopard impresses with its speed, maneuverability and precision. Andrij Morpih, a Ukrainian soldier, enthuses: "A very simple comparison is to take an 80-year-old Mercedes and an 80-year-old Zhiguli Soviet car. What has changed? Everything! Here it is the same, the Zhiguli has stayed the same and the Mercedes has evolved. Its range is the main advantage."
Ukrainian soldier on attack: "If it had been a T-64, the turret would have flown away immediately"

Soldier Sanja also praises the German battle tank in comparison to the Soviet T-64: "If something happens, for example, we were hit in a Leopard tank in May. The hit was so strong that it ripped out the support rollers, but the Leopard survived. If it had been a T-64, the turret would probably have blown away immediately."

The Federal Republic of Germany is providing Ukraine with comprehensive military equipment, including battle tanks, to strengthen its defense against Russia. After the USA, Germany is Ukraine's largest military supporter.

Really, playing Dota while there is a real action on the go is like masturbating while wet girl lay near and waiting to fcuk. ;)

PS: last night, someone projected following text on a fasade of US embassy in Moscow:

«You know who's gonna win. No matter who your ballot paper is PUT IN for»

Doesn't really make sense in English

When was the last free election in North Nigeria ?

At the presidential level probably 1991.... the 1996 election was fixed to prevent a commie from winning.... a mistake in hindsight


don't be so harsh... the poor things are trying....

One more interesting post from Telegram channel of Tatyana Montyan, ukrainian (in exile) lawyer and blogger.

Fantastic scum and where they live

The European Commission has presented a report on the observance of human rights in Ukraine. In brief, all is well, human rights are respected and their individual restrictions due to the martial law are applied "proportionately".

The Ukrainian authorities have maintained their general respect for fundamental rights and demonstrated their commitment to their protection

I remind you that we are talking about a country where people are grabbed on the streets and beaten, forcibly detained in the basements of TCCs without any court decision, where detainees often leave with their feet up, unable to withstand the beatings and abuse; where you can go to jail for discussing something wrong in a conversation with a neighbor or taking a picture of TCC employees on your phone; where unwanted religious confessions are banned and churches are raided, beating parishioners; where "activists" terrorize the population with the full support of law enforcement agencies, and so on.

The European Commission calls all this "proportional restrictions". I am interested to ask: does this mean that this body in principle allows similar treatment of citizens of the EU itself?

The commissioners were still concerned about something: they said that "measures are needed to strengthen the existing mechanisms to protect civil society activists from pressure". This is despite the fact that activists are actually untouchable persons in Ukraine, since it is with their help that "Western partners" keep local authorities under control. In general, everything is according to the classics: all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others....

Memo to PF Russians and PAK:

It's way past persuading and educating here. Since Russia haters are male kunts, facts don't matter.

That leaves insults, ridicule, and mockery. You spend less time and the outcome is the same...

But I still admire your patience and good manners...

Exactly!! Imperial Russians and their pathological supporters are losing in the forum coz decent people and monkeys overwhelm them!!! Ha!!!!

Boy I am glad to be neutral, such vile language on both sides.
*Goes on to think what to have this day and what to do and hope this war finally ends soon*

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@Novichok
I am not trying to pursuade or convince anyone. Its clear that most of the leftists can never grasp reality in any way. Karens love screaming into the abyss just to hear themselves scream.

As Ukraine has its first conflicts with little Kim's men, it is going to be interesting to see how quickly the little fvcktards get killed and sent back to the socialist heaven that is NK. Another shining example of socialism killing it own people.

I am still proud of the US ruling swamp. With their own house on fire, careening toward the cliff, unselfishly, they devote the non-existing resources to bring "freedom and democracy" to the people 6000 miles away who don't give a fvck about either...

Now, that's generosity we all can be proud of...

If that's not the objective, we read your posts to feel better and enjoy the silence or lame attempts from your enemies.

Quoting CNN.com:

What do you do when you are losing a war against Russia?

Number one, the sane option: you can face reality and start negotiations to end the war.

Option two, the manic one: you can ... keep fighting as if you could still win, thereby damaging your country even more and making sure that, in the end, it will still lose but on even worse terms.

Or, finally, option three, the delusional one: you can ... have it both ways - stave off defeat while somehow magically ending the war, or at least slowing it down.

So, PF generals, what would be your choice? Wishing Putin cancer is not a strategy worth discussing.

Negotiating with an enemy that doesn't keep agreements it enters into does not end a war, it merely suspends the war for some time.

The government of North Nigeria agreed to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and the borders of Ukraine as in place on 5 December 1994. The government of North Nigeria promised to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity of Ukraine. The government of North Nigeria undertook that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine. The government of North Nigeria simply cannot be trusted, so only a fool would think they will negotiate in good faith. Until they are defeated the war in Ukraine can only ever be suspended.

What does Russia do when they are losing a war against Ukraine and going broke in the process.
Use an unknown gas on the battle field is the correct answer.

Then die. Your choice...

I would choose "trust" over death.