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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16


Tacitus  2 | 1249
3 hrs ago   #811
@cms neuf

Ah yes, the NKs and the Chinese and NNs and Iranians don't want freedom

Yeah. Don't know how anyone can claim this with a straight face when the last noteworthy protest movement in Iran happened only 2 years ago. Sadly the Iranian regime has become very proficient in brutally crushing any opposition and is now busy murdering anyone even remotely connected (or not) to the protests as a warning.

Besides, no matter what the Russian people may want or not, they have no right to prevent other people from living as they want. If Russians want to live in a poor dystopia, that is up to them. Just don't drag others with you.
pawian  221 | 25361
3 hrs ago   #812
If Russians want to live in a poor dystopia, that is up to them. Just don't drag others with you.

Yes, but Russians are clever and they know they have to attack and occupy other countries so that they can move there and live a better life than in their Russian shythole. Best seen in the Baltics of 20th century or Poland in 19th.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 953
3 hrs ago   #813
@Tacitus
The US definition of freedom is different than the UK definition. The Turkish definition is different than Polish. The last Iran protest two years ago clearly was not supported by a majority of Iranian people. There is a large minority that support their fight, but not a majority. Since all the talk of democracy here, why doesnt the majority of Iranian people count?

A new report today in USA today shows a poll of 52% Ukranian people support negotiations with a loss of territory. So why doesnt their voice count in this? Not listening to the majority is certainly not "democratic". Why dont people outside of Ukraine listen to the majority of Ukraine people? Because it doesnt fit their agenda.
jon357  73 | 23133
3 hrs ago   #814
Because

But, but, but.....

It's clear that r*SSia is a clear and present danger to anywhere within missile reach of its borders.

They have threatened to attack countries (I'm thinking of the U.K.) among the most stable and prosperous in the world.

They have cut communications cables in the Baltic. This is an act of war.

They have sent explosive packages in the mail in Poland and Germany. This is an act of war.

They have paid people to burn down Ukrainian owned warehouses in London. This is an act of war.

They have burnt down a shopping mall in Warsaw. This is an act of war.

And of course they carried out a chemical weapons attack in the U.K.

They must lose and be seen to lose. If not, they will be emboldened. This no longer concerns only Ukraine or only countries unfortunate enough to border r*SSia.

As I say, this is a clear and present danger.
mafketis  38 | 11008
3 hrs ago   #815
a poll of 52% Ukranian people support negotiations with a loss of territory. So why doesnt their voice count in this

Why negotiate when you know the other party won't honor their commitments?

What guarantees can anyone give in the face of the next russian invasion?
Velund  1 | 502
2 hrs ago   #816
Ah yes, the NKs and the Chinese and NNs and Iranians don't want freedom

They (vast majority) definitely do NOT want freedom in the perverted form you believe it should be. They have their own understanding of freedom, and trying to deny them the right to choose their own definition of freedom is reason enough to knock the teeth out of anyone who tries to force them to accept someone else's definition of freedom by violence.
Velund  1 | 502
2 hrs ago   #817
But, but, but.....

Long list, but zero proofs. Litvinenko case - zero verifiable proofs, unpublished coroner inquest and "secret" witnesses in court. Skripals case - zero verifiable proofs. Cables in Baltic - zero proofs.

And "countries, most stable and prosperous in the world" - it was in the past....
cms neuf  1 | 1802
2 hrs ago   #818
I am talking about the freedom to say what you want, read what you want, work in a job you like, take your kids for a hamburger at the weekend

Might be perverted to a North Nigerian, but for us in Poland it's called every day life.

More news about these Yemenis BTW, turns out they were forced to sign R*****n language contracts at gunpoint, then sent off with no training, no equipment, to face the best western weapons. The North Nigerians contempt for all human life is sick.
jon357  73 | 23133
2 hrs ago   #819
Long list, but zero

A long list and all proven to the satisfaction of the countries involved.

Stop trying to deny things Orc Troll. Nobody believes you...

most stable and prosperous in the world" - it was in the past....

All statistics about the economy and crime levels prove you wrong. Some countries have queues to get in, others have to prevent people leaving.

Now remind us what percentage of r*SSians don't have indoor toilets, and how many have been sent to die in a fruitless invasion of Ukraine.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 953
27 mins ago   #820
freedom to say what you want, read what you want, work in a job you like, take your kids for a hamburger

These are the freedoms the US Democratic party was trying to take away. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and mass regulation of business including burger places. Freedom of speech was censored with the Biden admin, so was freedom of the press. Yet those here who support the war continuing in Ukraine largely hoped that the Biden policies would be carried on by a Kumala win. I am not saying you're wrong in your opinion, all I am saying is that we collectively do not know what other people may or may not want. And we dont have the right to force our opinion on them.
Crow  154 | 9333
19 mins ago   #821
It is the last hour for us Slavs ie Sarmatians, to unite, because only together can we survive the attack of the army of darkness!

Degenerates, mental mutants, heretics, cannibalistic nazis, satanists, people with evil fathers and even worse mothers, failed states that propagate gender change and human behavior like animals, promote eating bugs, propose mustachioed women and bald men, false spiritual leaders that want to destroy our children and turn them into shameless faggots and lesbians as if it were something completely normal, that passionately desire to separate us from our own ancestors, to make us forget our native language and suggest other sickening malformations.
cms neuf  1 | 1802
2 mins ago   #822
Shut up about Kumala, The Democrats and the rest of this gowno. We don't care - you just had an election so you should be happy

This thread is about North Nigerias illegal invasion of it's peaceful democratic neighbors


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