The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives [3] 
  
Account: Guest

Home / News  % width   posts: 1017

Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16


Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #1
Who told you that we planned to conquer ukraine?

...or occupy Poland...

Any moron who says that Russia is planning to occupy Poland never tried to turn a black spitting cobra into a pet. The pleasure is low and the risk is high...
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #2
What a great way to end the day...Poland, I love you and this great woman....

We should ask her to come here and be our border czar...

Hey, Swedish eunuchs, she has more balls than all of you morons combined plus Barney and Lyzko.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1040
28 Oct 2024   #3
New WSJ report about Ukraine military police raiding nightclubs to boost forced conscription numbers. They are running out of men, meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of men of fighting age in Poland and other countries. Why isnt Poland and others kicking these men out? If everyone is supporting Ukraine in their effort, wouldnt it make sense to force men of fighting age to return home?

Now that Russia has beefed up their own border, Ukraine was stopped trying to enter Bryansk. With so little men, what is Z thinking trying another raid into Russia? It makes no sense to take men off the front lines, or to keep men from going to the front lines, to risk them on another raid into Russia. Especially when the last raiding group is getting pushed back. Strategy makes no sense.
jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #4
Looks like Vlad's desperate now he's had to resort to North Korean forced 'soldiers' to make up for him running out of troops.
"In an intercepted phone call released by Ukrainian intelligence, two Russian servicemen criticised chaotic plans to integrate North Korean soldiers into their command structures.

One soldier used a racist term to refer to the Koreans as "f------ Chinese". In another snippet, reported by CNN, a soldier describes the reaction of a fellow Russian soldier after a meeting with the new Korean arrivals."

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/26/russian-soldiers-complain-north-korean-recruits-ukraine/
Alien  25 | 6002
28 Oct 2024   #5
two Russian servicemen criticised chaotic plans to integrate North Korean soldiers into their command structures.

I'm not surprised, North Koreans will steal toilet bowls from russians. 🤭
mafketis  38 | 11106
28 Oct 2024   #6
head of RT Margarita "I love censorship" Simonyan admits that a lot of RT is made up by AI....


mafketis  38 | 11106
28 Oct 2024   #7
Meanwhile in moscow.... a fitting memorial to the putain regime was created.... a fountain of sh1t as high as a multi-storey apartment building......

x.com/poland24com/status/1850853373773287780
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #8
That **** fountain is awesome - hopefully somewhere near the troll farm

I expect there will be a lot more this winter as the infrastructure is not maintained

Perhaps they can get some North Korean engineers to help them ?
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #9
head of RT Margarita "I love censorship" Simonyan admits that a lot of RT is made up by AI....

...still better than a DEI AI kunt telling me that "the border is secure" while 10,000 of the world's worst scum are crossing it every single day.

Strategy makes no sense.

It's just a PR stunt for the US Congress...because that's where the money is.
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #10
Haven't seen Ukrainian social media and press be as gloomy as they are now. Not at any point since Feb '22.

It's not even fun like this... come on cheer up Hohols!

Russian advances are happening at a speed which seems high even by August and September standards. 136 square kilometers in two days. A dash from the old Vuhledar line to Shaktarske (7 kms) in one day. With this, Russia broke through the second line of defense, which Ukraine was hoping would carry them over through the winter.

Instead of continuing to go for Pokrovsk, the army stopped, and turned south and southwest. I think this is not what the Hohols were expecting, because rather unusually we took the sizeable city of Selydove without a fight. No lunar landscape - but rather a completely intact city.

Now the entire Ukrainian southern front in Zaporozhye and Kherson is threatened, because Russian troops have managed to break through into their rear through the place where the eastern and southern fronts hinge on each other. The options available to Ukraine are:

1) Pull back from its massive defensive line in the South (the one they launched their counter offensive from), and head several dozens kilometers north to a new and safer line.

2) Stay in place, and pray for a miracle that somebody will be able to stop the Russians that are breaking into their rear.

This is the result of losing Vuhledar, after two years of the fiercest resistance. The elite Ukrainian 79th Air Assault Brigade held it during all that time, without being rotated out or meaningfully replenished. A bit more than a year ago, the town became famous around the world after the 79th mauled two powerful Russian assaults, leaving multiple columns of destroyed equipment. In the end, we were not able to take it in a frontal assault, but the city only fell after it became almost completely encircled.

Now if we are able to move a few kilometers more forward to Kurakhovo, we'll be on the N-15 highway. The N15 highway goes through the rear of the ENTIRE UKRAINIAN SOUTHERN FRONT.

Pokrovsk turned out to be a distraction to an even bigger disaster unfolding for the Ukrainians.
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #11
Quoting from:

x.com/poland24com/status/1850853373773287780

Finally a fitting image to all the sh*t coming out of Putin's and Lavrov's mouths.

How high would that fountain have to be to be a fitting image of the crap coming from Kamala?

BTW, what shlt did that засранец Polak mean? That Russia will eventually liberate Donbass?
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #12
In general the feeling is that the Ukrainians are falling into some kind of a state of lethargy. They're reacting late to things, or in some cases not reacting at all and letting a merely bad situation become disastrous.

They've lost the initiative completely, and now Russia attacks wherever it pleases - keeping the Ukrainians constantly guessing where the next fire will break out. At the moment Russia is attacking on 8 separate directions.

After sending most of their best reserves to Kursk, they don't seem to have much left to plug the holes with. So instead they just watch apathetically as little pinpricks turn into festering wounds, until finally only an amputation can help.

This is the whole "first gradual, then sudden" aspect of attritional warfare. The Ukrainians held the line bravely, until they couldn't. The problems kept getting layered on each other and multiplying, were not addressed properly because of a culture of denialism and sugarcoating, and have finally metastasized into an epic clusterfuck for the ages.
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #13
Pokrovsk turned out to be a distraction to an even bigger disaster unfolding for the Ukrainians.

Thanks for the update.

I am still missing what percentage of Donbass is still occupied by the UA.
They've lost the initiative completely, and now Russia attacks wherever it pleases

This is probably the reason why American TV is silent about what is going on...
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #14
I have a question...

Was the US desperate dragging Poles and 40+ other countries into Iraq, azholes?
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #15
I am still missing what percentage of Donbass is still occupied by the UA.

Roughly a quarter. If the "Donbass" is understood as Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts, then Ukraine has about a quarter left under its control.

We control Luhansk entirely, and half of Donetsk. The hardest fighting in Donetsk is behind us, however, as the main defensive line built in 2014-2022 has been finally overrun. We're wrapping up work in the dense Donetsk urban agglomeration, and getting slowly to the open fields which lead to Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk (two of the largest cities in Ukraine along with Kiev, Kharkov, and Odessa).

Was the US desperate dragging Poles and 40+ other countries into Iraq, azholes?

Dragging? It was the "Coalition of the Willing".
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #16
None of these villages are even big enough to make it on to a map. Unlike Pokrovsk

Shaktarske ? Wtf

When's the victory parade ?
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #17
@cms neuf

Selydovo is only half the population of Pokrovsk. It's a large place. Fell largely without a fight within 48 hrs.

The importance of Shakhtarske was how quickly we got there, and to Bogoyavlenka, after taking Vuhledar. On Twitter and in the Western press, military analysts were writing that this second line of defense should hold out for an additional 2-3 months, buying Ukraine valuable time to strengthen fortifications and train more men.

In the event, it fell within days. This is surprising even to the Russian side. It may mean that the Ukrainians have already decided to withdraw from this area entirely.
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #18
Fell largely without a fight within 48 hrs.

...because the UA ran or surrendered?

Is Russia trying to talk sense into the UA to surrender? Or is this war going to be a copy of the last days of Germany?

Just asking for your opinion...
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #19
because the UA ran or surrendered?

The city got semi-encircled, with a single quadrant being left open.

This is now a traditional Russian tactic. Instead of effecting complete encirclements, they leave them a single path of retreat. Typically, the entire extraction
route is shot through with artillery, drones, and small arms fire.

It's cheaper, easier, and still manages to inflict substantial casualties on Ukraine. However, it prevents the wholesale destruction of formations, but rather leaves some pieces intact from which the unit can be eventually regenerated.

Is Russia trying to talk sense into the UA to surrender?

Russia doesn't want to talk to Ukraine. Ukraine should want to to talk to Russia.
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #20
Russia doesn't want to talk to Ukraine.

I meant the UA soldiers, not Z.

By now, everybody except PF Russia haters knows that Russia will win and that dying for a lost cause is just plain stupid. The whole Western Europe except the UK realized it and surrendered to Germany.
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #21
I meant the UA soldiers, not Z.

Who cares what UA soldiers think?

They get mobilized like cattle, with beatings and screaming matches in the streets.

Their commanders treat them similarly like domesticated beasts.

They are the biggest opponents of this war, but their opinion matters for nothing. At least for now.
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #22
Who cares what UA soldiers think?

I guess my post was not clear...

Russia should care not about what the UA thinks but how close it is to surrendering. A man can take only so much before he is ready say fvck it.

You should try to convince them that surrendering to Russia carries no risk of being shot or deported later. From leaflets to radio and TV interviews with those who did it and are now alive and safe.
Bobko  28 | 2363
28 Oct 2024   #23
A man can take only so much

Ukraine is nowhere near its point of exhaustion. They can still bear the pressure for quite some time, before collapsing entirely.

If they decide to retreat behind the river, then they can hold out for a very long time indeed.

The problem - for them - is that they are their own worst enemy. Having as few resources as they do, they episodically waste them away on frivolous pursuits like raids into Kursk or Belgorod.

Before Kursk, nobody doubted that Ukraine can hold the front, albeit not without some minor losses. After Kursk, forecasts are being revised downwards nearly in all cases. They made their own job substantially more difficult.
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #24
But surrendering carries every risk of being mistreated. Ukies have come back from the prisoner exchanges as skin and bones. the NNs don't have enough food for their own troops, let alone prisoners.

In some cases Ukrainian prisoners have been executed, raped, castrated or tortured.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_war_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
mafketis  38 | 11106
28 Oct 2024   #25
But surrendering carries every risk of being mistreated.

the russian state does not care anything at all about the lives of russian citizens (find me counter-evidence if you disagree).

Ukrainian lives are less than nothing to them.... not the vids of surrendering Ukrainians being shot and killed, or civilians being hunted in 'human safaris'...

I've read mr. Pozner's 'time's up' posts for so long I no longer put any stock in them whatsoever.... he's hear to spread doom and gloom no matter what's going on and o make russia seem less like the totalitarian nightmare that it is....
OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #26
less like the totalitarian nightmare that it is....

Define "totalitarian regime".
pawian  221 | 25993
28 Oct 2024   #27
Define "totalitarian regime".

The one supported by Novi. Simple.
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
28 Oct 2024   #28
Define "totalitarian regime".

Russia supported by North Korea!

This shows how desperate Russia has become....... they have lost this war.......


OP Novichok  5 | 8492
28 Oct 2024   #29
like the totalitarian nightmare that it is....

Hey, azhole, it's four hours since I asked you to define "totalitarian" and nothing?
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
28 Oct 2024   #30
Hey, azhole, it's four hours since I asked you to define "totalitarian" and nothing?

I answered you but you have blocked me...... HaHaHaHa!

Home / News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 16
Discussion is closed.