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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 15


Ironside  50 | 12312
27 Sep 2024   #61
was Poland having two epic fights with Ukraine

What makes it funny is that it was Ukraine who started that fight. I expected them to be much better, being assertive but they are being that Moscow style without considering other issues and reality. Their policy is not grounded nor is it well thought over. They shoot themselves in the foot and keep doing it. Especially regarding Poland.
Velund  1 | 498
27 Sep 2024   #62
which went down

It may become way up, if Canniballa with their LGBT vice will use postal tricks again to get power, and switch country to mode of civil self-destruction. ;)
OP gumishu  16 | 6181
27 Sep 2024   #63
Things have reverse and now Poland has better relations with Czechia than with Slovakia

on (at?) the street level attitudes towards Czechs and Slovaks don't differ much (if at all) apart from the fact that most Poles find the Slovak language easier to understand than the Czech language
mafketis  38 | 10868
27 Sep 2024   #64
street level attitudes towards Czechs and Slovaks don't differ much (if at all)

I remember when there was a fair amount of animosity between Czechs and Poles (remember Poland was the first country to cross the border in 1968) .... better relations with Slovaks were mostly based on shared dislike of Czechs.

Now attitudes don't differ too much but I know lots of people that like Czech movies or tv series (both from prl times and later) while Slovakia... doesn't produce much of either.

And Praha is a more popular destination than Bratislava (which is okay......) Slovakia does have some tatras and the countryside can be lovely in summer.

Weirdly younger slovaks don't understand Polish as well as older ones. When I was in Bratislava those above 40 or so understood if I spoke Polish while younger staff didn't (and it's not like they knew English either....). Similar experiences elsewhere....
OP gumishu  16 | 6181
27 Sep 2024   #65
I remember when there was a fair amount of animosity between Czechs and Poles

I have been in Czechia only a couple of times and for relatively short periods but I never encountered any animosity towards Poles (my dad used to work near Prague for about a year in the 80's)

what I do remember though is a marked sense of superiority among (some) Poles towards Czechs based on how Poles "bravely fought" in the WW2 and Czechs "cowardly" capitulated before Germans without a shot (it even reflected in more or less popular sayings for example "Tu mówi Radio Praha, my se ne boime, my mamy stracha" ("jmam strach" is an actual Czech phrase afaik)

I think a lot of this marked superiority dissipated as more and more Poles started to visit Czechia (it happened quite a lot in the 80's) - Polish people were quite impressed at how well supplied Czech stores were with diverse goods, especially when compared with the then cirsis stricken Poland
OP gumishu  16 | 6181
27 Sep 2024   #66
I do remember though is a marked sense of superiority among (some) Poles towards Czechs based on how Poles "bravely fought"

ok, I have to admit that I was to some extent guilty of it for some time - it happens when you read too many history books especially too many military history books (I guess it takes a special mindset to be fascinated by military history, too)
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #67
A reminder...Under the UN rules of self-determination, Donbass is part of the Russian Federation just as Texas is part if the United States of America.

Therefore, Ukraine is the aggressor and Russia is the liberator.

Eat shlt, Russia haters...
Lazarus  2 | 356
27 Sep 2024   #68
A reminder...Under the UN rules of self-determination, Donbass is part of the Russian Federation

The UN disagrees with you. The UN says in United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-11/4 that
the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine are areas that, in part, are or have been under the temporary military control of the Russian Federation, as a result of aggression, in violation of the sovereignty, political independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine

and that
the unlawful actions of the Russian Federation with regard to the illegal so-called referendums ... and the subsequent attempted illegal annexation of these regions, have no validity under international law and do not form the basis for any alteration of the status of these regions of Ukraine

Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #69
The UN disagrees with you. The UN says

I don't give a fvck what the UN GA says. Our gov says that it's illegal to enter the US illegally. Sure...Talk to the 30 million of these scumbags already here...

The quoted text is silent about the will of the citizens of Donbass. I wonder why...So what happened to the concept of self-determination?

"Illegal" requires a law that makes it illegal. When I am caught speeding, I violate specific state law that the cop can name and read to me.

Try again.
jon357  72 | 22778
27 Sep 2024   #70
I don't give a fvck what the UN GA says

The law doesn't depend on what Pan Ryszard does or doesn't "give a fvck" about.

Donbas is in Ukraine, as is Crimea.
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #71
Hey, Laz, what law makes the referendum in Donbass illegal? Is every Brit here a moron?
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #72
Only final imbeciles fails to notice that all what happening now in Ukraine, Near East, etc.. has approval from the USA, among others. Is this about `golden billion`? No. This is named `eliminate all the morons and plus collateral losses`. Would it come to `golden billion`? People, my dear people, friends here. Believe it or not, there is really that much idiots on this Earth that really won`t be hard to come to `golden billion`. How so? Many wants to go to war. Too many. Just look at Ukraine, Near East, Poland, Romania, Albania, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, USA, Canada, Africa, Asia. People truly wants to shoot at something. Just let them kill and they would happy and die for it. Now, there would be collateral losses, too. Normal people that would have to die because of morons that deeply desire to die or think that God likes them to the level of they get immortality. Kind of medieval or tribal mind set.

So, what richest magnates doing is just to provide arena. Here, go die when you are moron, and do something good for for me, Earth and global economy.
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #73
ALL IS NOW READY FOR THE RETURN OF THE REAL OWNERS OF EUROPE. ORIGINAL EUROPEAN GIVING CULTURE AND KEEPERS OF THE EUROPEAN ETHNICITY. SARMATIANS RE-CLAIMERS. WHEN DUST SETTLE DOWN SERBIANS ARE ABOUT TO CONTROL THE MAIN CONTINENTAL WEALTH FLOW. AND WILL BE PAX SARMATICA.

ROME IS DEFEATED. SARMATIANS WINS AFTER APPROXIMATELY 2000 YEARS OF WAR AND 1400 YEARS OF THE FINAL SARMATIAN SUBJUGATION AFTER FAILURE OF SARMATIAN ILIRYAN UPRISING.

BUT SARMATIAN SCYTHIA IE RUS REMAINED FREE AND GREW STRONGER AND STRONGER.

Polish Tusk coming to talk to Serbowie ie Racowie, to Belgrade in October. That could be history in the making.
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #74
Would Serbians prevent downfall and suicide of Poland?

One is certain. We shall try but you Poles needs to love Poland yourself and to have it, to have Sarmatia, still, in yourself. For nothing is above soul. Without soul you are only husks and nothing else matters.

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The moment when blessed Polish president Lech Kaczinsky, hero of Poland and Sarmatia, after talk with Serbia`s president Boris Tadic, fled to the side of Serbians at the session of UNGA, criticized NATO publicly, criticized his own government at UNGA what was ever unseen situation in history of UN, and soon after was assassinated by NATO and EU

Brate Tuske are you brave enough so we continue battle for Poland!?
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #75
Hey, Laz, what law makes the referendum in Donbass illegal?

What is taking so long?
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #76
I hope Tusk as a real Kashub prove his loyalty to Poland and Sarmatia and refuse NATO and EU dictate.

You prove them ALL brate what kind the man you are. Show them Sarmatian in yourself. Don`t be afraid of nothing. They can do nothing to you.

Poland endured for so long and survived in its Sarmatian essence. Just let it be brate. Don`t betray those killed and stolen children. Do it for dead and alive and future children of Poland. Poland deserve to be on the side of victors. God knows Poland deserve.
Alien  22 | 5460
27 Sep 2024   #77
soon after was assassinated by NATO and EU

It's not because of the russians?
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #78
@Alien

Of course not. On Balkan, in Serbian world, Poland and Russia stays in perfect equilibrium since time immemorial. Both wanted Serbians to be alive and control the region. Both for their own specific reasons. Its the other question that moving to side of Serbians, what is natural status of Poland, presented Poland as ally of Russia in the region. Even in this fraction of interest that was not allowed to Poland and so Lech Kaczinsky was assassinated. Rome, NATO and EU have their own plans for Poland and that is, not to cooperate with Russia, but to if need be dies in fight against Russia.

But, Serbians have other plans for Poland. We want Poland alive and free.

We want Russia to outmaneuver all the foes and save Poland. We shall play our role. We are ready. Because Serbia is alive for Poland wanted that we live.
Alien  22 | 5460
27 Sep 2024   #79
We want Poland alive and free.

That's what Poland is like.
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #80
When public media aren`t free, country isn`t free.
Alien  22 | 5460
27 Sep 2024   #81
media aren`t free

In Poland there are only free media.
Crow  154 | 9207
27 Sep 2024   #82
Tusk coming to Serbia. Vucic will explain to him.
Miloslaw  21 | 4928
27 Sep 2024   #83
Tusk coming to Serbia.

Tusk is a waste of space.

Vucic will explain to him.

He will be wasting his time with an imbecile like Tusk.....
Miloslaw  21 | 4928
27 Sep 2024   #84
But, Serbians have other plans for Poland.

You pathetic and weak Serbians have "Other plans for Poland"? who are you to have "Plans for Poland"?

Serbs always run to their big bad uncle Russia for help and do as they are told by the big bad uncle.
Serbs are not proper Slavs, just like Russians are not proper Slavs.

Because proper Slavs FIGHT!

Polish people are proper Slavs because they will never surrender to your stupid, big bad uncle Russia......
And we will ignore Serbian lapdogs of Russia too, because they are irrelevant!
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #85
From RT.com:

Ukrainian army plagued by desertion and draft-dodging
Mass conscription in the country is producing recruits who are too old, sick and drunk to fight Russia,


Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky's so-called 'victory plan' is being undermined by the reality that his nation does not have enough manpower or resources to prevail over Russia.

I don't see a problem. Ask Brits to self-identify as Ukrainians, give them fake IDs, and uniforms and watch Russia fold like a beach umbrella.

After all, it was the Brits that urged Z and his men to fight for freedom and democracy in Ukraine till they all die.

Because proper Slavs FIGHT!

Do you fight?
Miloslaw  21 | 4928
27 Sep 2024   #86
From RT.com:

Your first mistake......

Ukrainian army plagued by desertion and draft-dodging

Of course RT won't say that the problem is even worse in Russia.......

Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky's so-called 'victory plan' is being undermined by the reality that his nation does not have enough manpower or resources to prevail over Russia.

That has already been proven to be be complete and utter bollox...... this 10 day invasion is now heading for 3 years.......

it was the Brits that urged Z and his men to fight for freedom and democracy in Ukraine till they all die.

Oh yeah, blame the Brits! The Yanks had nothing to do with this...... HaHaHa!

Because proper Slavs FIGHT!

Do you fight?

Not in a war, but I have fought all my life for what I believe in.
Like you, I am getting old now, but if Russia invaded and I was given a gun and ammo, I would fight.
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #87
Your first mistake......

Your first mistake was to assume that it was RT that wrote it. It was the Economist.

Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky's so-called 'victory plan' is being undermined by the reality that his nation does not have enough manpower or resources to prevail over Russia, The Economist reported on Thursday.

That has already been proven to be be complete and utter bollox.

Call the Economist.

but if Russia invaded and I was given a gun and ammo, I would fight.

The probability of you being knifed by a Muslim POS is infinitely greater than being attacked by Russia. Yet, you are unarmed.

WTF?
Miloslaw  21 | 4928
27 Sep 2024   #88
Is every Brit here a moron?

I am beginning to think that the morons on PF tend to be Americans that follow RT.
Novichok  4 | 7630
27 Sep 2024   #89
The morons on PF are those who judge RT without reading it.

Did you call the Economist?
Novichok  4 | 7630
28 Sep 2024   #90
Trump: The country is absolutely obliterated. Millions and millions of people, including all of these great soldiers, they are dead.

Sure doesn't sound like Ukraine is winning.

But then what does he know... The guy was only a president of the US and a coward who hated wars. I guess he forgot that wars are good for the economy.

On the other hand, PF strategists, especially the sexually confused Brits and dumb Polaks, know everything better than Trump and Putin. I am so jealous.


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