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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 15


Crow  154 | 9249
10 Oct 2024   #541
Just showing what a raving lunatic he was.He got what he deserved in the end.

Sure?

Biden: 'I don't care if you think I'm Satan reincarnated'



and this is really scary, no matter that morons laugh at him. Saddam can`t be compared to this madness. Saddam is made by others to look low. He was put low. But Biden. Its a true madman. Not just old lunatic. True madman.

And Poland follow this madman?
Crow  154 | 9249
10 Oct 2024   #542
But Vucic already work to save Poland. That is what Serbians want. Saved, not fu*ked up Poland.
Miloslaw  21 | 5012
10 Oct 2024   #543
But Vucic already work to save Poland.

No.Poland is already saving Poland.......


Miloslaw  21 | 5012
10 Oct 2024   #544
The truth, not moronic propaganda;


Novichok  4 | 7780
10 Oct 2024   #545
Looks like blackrock and other "bargain purchasers" of ukrainian agricultural lands interested in lands only.

Western hyenas...

I feel really sorry for the morons who volunteered to go to Ukraine thinking that they will be fighting for "freedom and democracy".

Actually, I lied but it looks good on my screen...

Psychiatry should have a separate sub-category for the idiots like this.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #546
Russia on 'brink' of 'civil war' after Chechen leader declares 'blood feud'.
Civil war within Russia.
This Ukrainian war is all but over.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 944
11 Oct 2024   #547
@jon357
European insurance companies never had the money or power that the US companies have. I agree its a problem, but no one in power wants to fight them and lose those campaign donations. It is a circle, but with so many broken things in the US, this one is not a high priority to fix. I disagree on cities being destroyed. I have seen it in Denver, LA, NY, and Detroit. Illegal immigragtion is actually compounding the problems of the poor in the US, when they get resources and more resources than citizens.

Z says he will present his victory plan to Europe in November. Funny how the US election is in November.
GefreiterKania  30 | 1515
11 Oct 2024   #548
Z says he will present his victory plan to Europe in November.

Wow! His victory plan! Would I be wrong to assume that "his" victory plan will require our support, our resources, our money and our weapons?

Oh, well - hopefully those American and Saudi agricultural holdings in Ukraine are worth it. Around 10% of agricultural land in Ukraine, which is about 3 million hectares (!), is owned by entities from outside the country. That's roughly 5% of Ukraine's territory! Apparently Ukrainians are not willing to lose their lands in war but they are quite willing to sell them. Stupid Russia - instead of invading and fighting the entire civilised world, they should have just bought Donbass and Crimea.
mafketis  38 | 10908
11 Oct 2024   #549
pro-russians: muh banderites in Ukraine!!!!!! soooo terrible!!!!!!

russians: Let's erect another statue to mass-murdering war-starter human pile-of-puke Stalin!!!!!!!

x.com/SA61W/status/1844648774880116987
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #550
These are no new ideas...they have been around for about 200 years....and there have been many tries to realize them over the decades...they sound always nice but they NEVER worked, it all ended in tears

A lot longer than 200 years and those 'ideas' haven't 'ended in tears' for us. If anything they underpin a successful democracy and an affluent society.

ussia on 'brink' of 'civil war'

It isn't, unfortunately.

European insurance companies never had the money or power that the US companies have

That's because we don't let them. If they want to exist, they do so on society's terms.

Remember, if you sit on your arse waiting for people who are onto a good thing to cut you in and share their wealth with you, your arse will have long decomposed before you get anything other than the snot that drops from their noses. With 'trickle down' economics, trickle is all it ever does. Waiting for the socially politically and economically conservative elements in society to become less conservative is a waste of energy.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #551
That's because we don't let them.

That's funny especially when you can't take out a business, home or car loan without insurance.
"Let Them" ? Hahahaha
They set the price for that mandatory insurance and you either pay it or go without.
Once again jon diminishing remarks blaming conservativism shows that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
European insurance companies never had the money or power that the US companies have.

Very well said.
Now lets try to stay On - Topic kids.
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #552
insurance

He was talking about health insurance. Don't try to be obtuse. It is a bore.

And no, we don't allow companies of any sort to dictate public policy. They can lobby to be heard just as anyone can do PR however they can't fund election campaigns or influence health care policy.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #553
He was talking about health insurance.

No, take another look Mr. Twister.

European insurance companies never had the money or power that the US companies have.

jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #554
As mentioned, health insurance.

Now buzz off, we're talking about r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #555
we're talking about r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

Yes, we see that Mr. Twister.
As mentioned, health insurance.

You get to be to much work, Mr. Twister
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #556
Don't try to start arguments that you're predestined to lose. The same goes for Vladimir Putain.

He's now stooped to having to beg Iran for more help, in Ashgabat of all places.
Novichok  4 | 7780
11 Oct 2024   #557
Memo to Russia haters:

Stop with that "illegal and unprovoked invasion" crap. It's redundant, azholes. All invasions are illegal and unprovoked.

Now pay attention so you won't miss it again, morons.

Russia didn't invade Ukraine. Russia is trying to liberate Donbass. 500,000 Ukrainians didn't get the memo so they are dead now.

If you paid attention in the past you would know that Donbass and Crimea are irreversibly and forever part of the Russian Federation.

Please don't make me repeat again...By now, even my cat knows it...
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #558
Some more news about the illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine by r*SSia. Their 'Sukhoi Su-57 stealth fighter' that they were trying to produce has failed; they just can't get the components for it.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #559
Don't try to start arguments that you're predestined to lose.

Oh I don't play to win or lose, I just point out how you got your nickname Mr. Twister.

He's now stooped to having to beg Iran for more help,

And now there are North Korean soldier fighting in Ukraine for Russia too.
Desperation is showing.
Novichok  4 | 7780
11 Oct 2024   #560
He's now stooped to having to beg Iran for more help,
Hey, moron, is the US begging Taiwan for help when we need them chips to make the next F-35?

No, moron, we "buy" them because we don't make them, which borders on treason.

This forum needs a moron filter or at least an Americans-only section.
cms neuf  1 | 1750
11 Oct 2024   #561
A great shame for the handbag toting North Nigerian harlots of Kensington and Paris. That Sukhoi budget has funded many yachts, footballers and holiday villas
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #562
That Sukhoi budget has funded many yachts, footballers and holiday villas

May they lose the lot.

They love r*SSia so much that they spend their lives in freer and more stable places. It shows what sort of a society they've created when even their own citizens cant bear to be there. No wonder Ukraine wants nothing to do with them.

He's now stooped to having to beg Iran for more help,

Pan Ryszard should decide whether he wants his 'ignore list' (which he mentions twice daily) or not.
johnny reb  46 | 7603
11 Oct 2024   #563
This forum needs an Americans-only section.

I concur
No more European badgering on topics they know nothing about besides what the bias media feeds them.
I bet we could even stay On-Topic of the rest of the threads if we had a thread for Americans only.
Bobko  27 | 2157
11 Oct 2024   #564
Stupid Russia - instead of invading and fighting the entire civilised world, they should have just bought Donbass and Crimea.

Ohhh man... you hit me where it hurts.

Putin is "old school". He doesn't get it, but he could have had what he desired if he just gave the process more time.

Speaking specifically about Ukraine:

1) We were their largest trade partner

2) Russian businessmen owned the largest cellular operator

3) Russian state-owned and private banks dominated Ukraine's banking sector

4) Russian tech companies like Yandex were killing it in the Ukrainian transportation and e-commerce markets

5) Russian companies dominated in the retail market

All this destroyed.

Further, our national champions lost hard won victories in other markets. Sberbank, which had ambitions of being the largest bank in Europe, had to sell its banks in Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Turkey, Austria, and elsewhere. Yandex, to preserve what it had, became a Dutch company.

The largest car manufacturer, owner of the Lada brand, and controlled by Renault-Nissan was getting ready to export cars manufactured in Russia.

Moscow's airports were turning into international hubs for flights between Europe and Asia.

All this lost.

We could have done with Ukraine what we did with Georgia. They lost a war to us, were extremely angry with us for about ten years, but then came crawling back after a Russian-backed oligarch came into power and reestablished economic ties. Now their entire country is owned by Russia, and they are forgetting about the EU and NATO as they get drowned in Russian money.

A Ukraine in the EU, but fully owned by Russia, could have been a powerful instrument of influence for us within the EU.

Putin doesn't trust these sneaky bourgeois methods. He doesn't think they're reliable. He thinks that if they go into the EU, the West will then figure out some way of squeezing Russian interests out of Ukraine. But how?

Would the EU really have forced Ukraine to expel Russian investors? At that point we really could have invaded, and everybody would fully understand our position.
Novichok  4 | 7780
11 Oct 2024   #565
@johnny reb
One way is to ignore them and they will go away...
Between you, Joker, PAK, antv, and Poloniusz I am good and happy. I am really tired of arguing with idiots.
Ironside  50 | 12332
11 Oct 2024   #566
to ignore

Stop your whinge you whining rat, you are addicted to the whimpering little noises you make.
jon357  72 | 22959
11 Oct 2024   #567
All this destroyed.

All this lost.

And you could have had friendly peaceful and bilateral relations with a prosperous Ukraine in the EU. You wasted that chance.

but fully owned by

Why would r*SSia want to 'own' it? Why not just have friendly relations with a prosperous neighbour?
Lenka  5 | 3484
11 Oct 2024   #568
Why would r*SSia want to 'own' it? Why not just have friendly relations with a prosperous neighbour?

I think that's the biggest fault in the Russian thinking. Partnership doesn't seem to cross their mind.
AntV  4 | 712
11 Oct 2024   #569
with a prosperous Ukraine in the EU.

When has Ukraine ever shown it was actually on the cusp of becoming a well functioning country that would prosper?

My biggest concern about this war is how it will shape other western countries into thinking Ukraine is actually not a dysfunctional country that has deep systemic problems that keep it from becoming a reliable partner. It seems for every step forward it took two or a hundred back.
GefreiterKania  30 | 1515
11 Oct 2024   #570
Putin is "old school".

You put it very mildly.

Would the EU really have forced Ukraine to expel Russian investors?

Why would they do that? The EU was trading with Russia with no restrictions, before the whole Ukrainian affair, and would certainly continue to do so (to mutual benefit) if Putin hadn't decided to play Peter the Great.


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