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Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
22 Dec 2024   #421
as a Western country and the only democracy in the universe.

....and they want it to stay that way. An ever growing import of muslims destroys just that, logical...right?

No exceptions.

I guess that was a kind of a "Zeitgeist"....and these things are not carved out of stone.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #422
....and they want it to stay that way.

No. They need to strive so that one day Israel will be among the largest recipients of the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, celebrated for its unwavering commitment to diversity and democracy.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #424
?

There have been many notable recipients, including Helmut Kohl (former Chancellor of Germany), Jean Monnet (one of the founding fathers of the EU), and José Manuel Barroso (former President of the European Commission).

Could the fact that you don't know about this prize be a sign that it's reserved exclusively for Inner Party members of the EU? Is it considered thoughtcrime for Outer Party members and Proles to even be aware of it?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
22 Dec 2024   #425
I had to google that....and in Germany it's known as the "Karlspreis der Stadt Aachen"....and yeah, I have heard of that!

And the Jews got them already, if you mean that....

2024 Switzerland / Russia Pinchas Goldschmidt and the Jewish communities in Europe

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize

I don't think Israel will get it ever and I doubt very much they are striving for that....they have their own messes to clear up instead of working for european unification! That's just not their concern!
pawian  222 | 26666
5 Jan 2025   #426
Amasing that Elon Musk lashes at current Chancellor Scholz and encourages Germans to vote for far right AfD. Those American manners...........
Ironside  50 | 12738
5 Jan 2025   #427
Amasing that Elon Musk lashes

Nothing is wrong with him, he is a brilliant man, hence we share many views.
pawian  222 | 26666
5 Jan 2025   #428
he is a brilliant man

Unexactly. He lost billions of dollars in failed ventures. Also, his X is losing members due to his crazy policies.
jon357  72 | 23294
6 Jan 2025   #429
he is a brilliant man

He is a loose cannon who tries to use cash to influence domestic politics in countries he has no connection to.

And increasingly acts like some sort of creepy Bond villain.

He may well end up serving a very long prison sentence if he doesn't wind his tongue in.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
6 Jan 2025   #430
....I dunno....his support for the AfD just blew her up over the 21% mark in the most actual german poll...

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article255051374/Insa-Umfrage-Gruene-erreichen-besten-Wert-seit-einem-Jahr-AfD-klettert-auf-21-5-Prozent.html
jon357  72 | 23294
6 Jan 2025   #431
his

This is the problem. He has nothing to do with Europe.

He should stick to interfering in his own continent instead of promoting nasty neo-fascists in other places.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
6 Jan 2025   #432
...maybe he plans to become something of a "world prez"???

I mean what is a man interested in politics with so much ambition AND money to do?

I've heard he can't follow Trump since he isn't a born USian....but....
jon357  72 | 23294
6 Jan 2025   #433
maybe he plans to become something of a "world prez"?

As I say, he's looking increasingly like a Boind villain.

he can't follow .......since he isn't a born USian..

Very good too. The guy is unhinged.
Lyzko  42 | 9661
6 Jan 2025   #434
Ever since Scholz lost his own party to a vote of no-confidence, are we talking
about a potential Merz candidacy??
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
6 Jan 2025   #435
are we talking about a potential Merz candidacy??

....and talking big!

Frankly I can't (or won't) think about the machinations and backdoor-deals necessary to bring Scholz truly back as chancellor....he seems to believe in them, though!
Lyzko  42 | 9661
6 Jan 2025   #436
Hmm, you mean then he imagines he can/could actually stage a comeback??
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
6 Jan 2025   #437
....Germans wonder, because he talks and sounds exactly like this....as if that would be a possibility.

On the other hand are most Germans puzzled why the SPD decided to run again with Scholz as main candidate, even as all polls just show abject distaste and dislike for him. He is truly not popular....so....who knows what the SPDians are thinking! *shrugs*
Lyzko  42 | 9661
6 Jan 2025   #438
Guess we'll have to just wait and see.
OP Alien  25 | 6217
8 Jan 2025   #439
wait and see.

I think that the ill-considered statements of one American politician will effectively scare Germans away from choosing the AfD.
Tacitus  2 | 1270
8 Jan 2025   #440
Anyone who hasn't been scared by statements from AfD politicians will hardly be affected by this. People vote for the AfD because of this kind of rhetoric, not in spite of it.
OP Alien  25 | 6217
8 Jan 2025   #441
People vote for the AfD because of this kind of rhetoric, n

Yes, but annexing (by force) Canada, invading Greenland and occupying the Panama Canal are ideas that might scare slightly more moderate AfD supporters.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
8 Jan 2025   #442
....they tried that with calling everybody and his grandmom "Nazi"....and warning of the "end of the Democracy" too....didn't work as planned either, so who knows!
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2125
8 Jan 2025   #443
@Bratwurst Boy
Scholz as main candidate,

If they decided that it's best to be in opposition due to international situation and best for own party and Germany in long run while accommodating Scholz with a personal unknown reward or "deal". I am not really that surprised
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11810
8 Jan 2025   #444
....or maybe there was just no other possible candidate to find in the whole party? The early election is already in a few weeks....maybe they truly lack the alternatives? Who knows...
Lyzko  42 | 9661
8 Jan 2025   #445
However, in the case of Sigmar Gabriel, his father was in fact, both an avowed and
unrepenitent former Nazi.
OP Alien  25 | 6217
8 Jan 2025   #446
his father was in fact, both an avowed and
unrepenitent former Nazi.

Do children have to be responsible for their parents' mistakes?
Lyzko  42 | 9661
8 Jan 2025   #447
Often times though, the sins of the parents or the fathers in this case, are visited upon the children, unfair
as this may be.

I remind you of a once well-known publication from the late '60's or perhaps somewhat later, "Papa, hast du's getan? - Taeterkinder sprechen" (Is this what you did, papa? - Perpetrators' children speak out). Although by then the War had already been over for practically thirty years, the deep, indeed, barely healed, scars of the Hitler years, in particular the Holocaust, remained open wounds, as well as a source of bruising shame, in particular, for German nationals abroad!!
OP Alien  25 | 6217
11 Jan 2025   #448
the sins of the parents

Must the Romans to this day be held accountable for the atrocities of the Roman Empire? Must the Jews of the world be held accountable for the atrocities of Israel?
Lyzko  42 | 9661
11 Jan 2025   #449
Clearly the issue of culpability doesn't extend in fact to succeeding generations.
However, every country, Poland included, must bear the burdens of their history,
from which no nation is exempt, be it Palestine, Israel, France, Italy, Germany etc.

Curious though that while the Romans were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ,
we don't hate all Italians, merely because members of that time Italy (in which Rome
is located) produced a Pontius Pilate, Trajan along any number of other antisemites.
OP Alien  25 | 6217
11 Jan 2025   #450
Don Quijote, as we know, fought windmills. The newly elected AfD candidate for chancellor Alice Weidel announced today that she will fight windmills in Germany until they are all gone. 🤔Well, maybe we could at least occupy Iceland in the future.

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