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Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023


Mr Grunwald  33 | 2133
8 Oct 2023   #481
@GefreiterKania
It's obvious that it's about unification process of NRD with rest of Germany. Alas it can easily be misunderstood, so it's a vote bait for poor and rightist Germans that SPD can easily talk themselves out of internally. But will have a hard time convincing PiS of anything else
amiga500  5 | 1511
8 Oct 2023   #482
so it's a vote bait for poor and rightist Germans that SPD

When did SPD ever represent poor and rightist germans? It's either AFD or the Lewica party.. Oh wait you're saying it's just a desperate ploy to fool the fools?
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
8 Oct 2023   #483
It's obvious that it's about unification process of NRD with rest of Germany.

Tell that to PiS propagandists who will squeeze every little bit out of it.

AFD

SPD must be really desperate (maybe because of some internal, secret opinion polls) and tries to nick some voters from AfD. It's onlyt rather unfortunate that they decided to do it just before elections in Poland. Such a gift for Kaczyński.
pawian  221 | 25413
8 Oct 2023   #484
Marczułajtis is a Lithuanian surname

Yes, coz her father Wojciech Marczułajtis, a know Tatra mountaineer, rescuer and guide, was born in Vilnius in 1942 and transfered to Poland during expatriation.

But remember, we love her for other things than surname.
pawian  221 | 25413
8 Oct 2023   #485
I estimate the number of additional votes for PiS

You exaggerate as usual. :):):

Germany's SPD party decided to strongly reinforce PiS

I doubt it is an original German idea. It must be Russian moles in SPD who try to add fuel to the fire. Russians certainly prefer to keep the anti EU PiS gov in Poland, hoping for Polexit one day.

But the fact is that stupid SPD Germans allowed Russians to play such a trick on them. Amassing!
Alien  24 | 5771
9 Oct 2023   #486
It must be Russian moles in SPD who try to add fuel to the fire

I'm disgusted
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2133
9 Oct 2023   #487
@amiga500
Politics, ruse, baiting and creating confusion.
Not much new really

Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if Polish and German politicians officially «dislike each other» rhetorically and formally only. Somehow meetings aren't stopped and economic agreements aren't excactly being cancelled.

As far as I know Polish and German militaries Are co-operating and have good relations, if things were really bad. It would been closer to a Greek-Turkish situation.

As it is said in Poland "Pic na wodę"
mafketis  38 | 11022
9 Oct 2023   #488
Anyone watching the PRL style "debate" run by PiS?
Paulina  16 | 4338
9 Oct 2023   #489
@mafketis, no, I have a massive headache and I can't watch it (to be fair, I'll probably wouldn't be watching it anyway).
Korvinus  2 | 572
9 Oct 2023   #490
Anyone watching

A week ago, until the end of the election campaign, I turned off access to any "information" I had on the Internet, so as not to lose my mind, and the rest like jewtube is taken care of by noscript.
cms neuf  1 | 1809
9 Oct 2023   #491
I turned it on at 19.10 and lasted 2 minutes.

I thought I could handle another PiS term but now I know how bad that would be.

I think it is the first time I watched TVP since the World Cup
mafketis  38 | 11022
9 Oct 2023   #492
lasted 2 minutes.

the 'questions' were basically paens to PiS and/or personal attacks... PRL thru and thru.....

and of course Kaczyński chickened out because.... reasons.....

in his Białystok speech (where he sounded half-senile) he just said all the corruption scandals PiS has been involved in are just 'lies' without any actual evidence....
pawian  221 | 25413
9 Oct 2023   #493
the 'questions' were basically paens to PiS and/or personal attacks..

Nothing new. I would be deeply shocked if PIS had organised a fair debate on their TV. Those rightist gangsters aren`t able to keep basic standards which decent people acknowledge. That is why they are rightists.
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
9 Oct 2023   #494
the 'questions' were basically paens to PiS

... and longer than the answers. This "debate" was a bad joke.
pawian  221 | 25413
9 Oct 2023   #495
This "debate" was a bad joke.

Like 90% of the pathetic circus that PiS has been doing in Poland. 10% of their actions are OK, the rest is gangsterism.
pawian  221 | 25413
9 Oct 2023   #496
I didn`t watch it coz I was working. Independent onet journalists estimate that two biggest parties` leaders were the weakest of all during the debate. Hołownia and Bosak are praised for attractive performance.

- In my opinion, the two greatest players lost: Mateusz Morawiecki and Donald Tusk. They were just weak. Donald Tusk failed at the first question, she said. As she added, the PO leader had no right to be surprised by it.

Andrzej Stankiewicz had a similar opinion on this matter.

- Donald Tusk's performance was disappointing in the sense that when you go into the lion's den, you have to be prepared for various tricks. The questions were tendentious, but so stupid that they could be dealt with, said the deputy editor of Onet.

- 10, 15 seconds of each statement were educational insults to Morawiecki. He did not say anything important: abortion, the Constitutional Tribunal - commented Magdalena Rigamonti. - Seven minutes is really not much, you could have prepared your boss better - she added, referring to the people who prepared Donald Tusk
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Cargo pants  3 | 1443
9 Oct 2023   #497
you could have prepared your boss better - she added, referring to the people who prepared Donald Tusk.

Great leaders do that mistake,even Donald Trump did that during his deposition,his lawyers didnt prepare him good.
pawian  221 | 25413
9 Oct 2023   #498
his lawyers didnt prepare him good.

Jewish lawyers are the best in the US. Did he hire such? If not, that was a grave mistake of him .
Cargo pants  3 | 1443
10 Oct 2023   #499
Did he hire such?

that was a grave mistake of him .

Same questions to Mr Tusk,its the leaders mistake not the people who advice them.lol like they say "you can lead a horse to the water but cant make it drink"
Cargo pants  3 | 1443
10 Oct 2023   #500
his lawyers didnt prepare him good.

I shouldve said "he didnt learn well"
gumishu  15 | 6187
10 Oct 2023   #501
can't afford their own living space....

tell me it's better in say New York
cms neuf  1 | 1809
10 Oct 2023   #502
Very weird General Staff resignations today - at least 2 top Generals.
Cargo pants  3 | 1443
10 Oct 2023   #503
PLN is getting strong 3,27 to a $,interest rates dropped while in US the rates went up almost 8%,is this some election gimmick?Inflation in Poland also dropped dramatically,cooked books/data?Real scenario will start showing up in Dec very uncertain in Polonia currently.

@Cms:They are fighting with the defence minister.
mafketis  38 | 11022
10 Oct 2023   #504
Here's a link to memes created after the debate.... some very, very funny

onet.pl/styl-zycia/onetkobieta/internet-z-humorem-komentuje-debate-przedwyborcza-memy/th72nzl,2b83378a

The first, especailly, is priceless...
amiga500  5 | 1511
11 Oct 2023   #505
@mafkuntis
Still butthurt that PiS is going to win?, and with the Israeli war, voters are going to gravitate to the major parties. that means trzecia droga under 8 percent, maybe konfa too, and big majority for PiS. hopefully enough to change the constitution. welcome to the new world order azzhole!!! hahaha
mafketis  38 | 11022
11 Oct 2023   #506
Still butthurt ... azzhole!!

Where were you raised that you think that's an appropriate way to write to someone?
amiga500  5 | 1511
11 Oct 2023   #507
Where were you raised that you think that's an appropriate

the brothel where your mother worked and lived.
mafketis  38 | 11022
11 Oct 2023   #508
the brothel where your mother worked

It's possible to disagree with someone politically and still be civil. It's not necessary to be a total jerk to those you disagree with.
amiga500  5 | 1511
11 Oct 2023   #509
Not when you and others on this forum called polish people stupid who voted for a particular party to get free kielbasa.
mafketis  38 | 11022
11 Oct 2023   #510
PiS voters, on the whole, have less education than KO voters and have less experience of other cultures. Why this well-established fact should be controversial and cause you to be rude to me is not clear.

Low information =/= stupid, stop projecting.


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