Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women

Gatestone? Extremely biased

Please feel free to point out any factual innaccuracies.

And on the definition:

ipsnews.net/2011/02/rape-as-sweden-redefines-it-2

money quote: there were, however, no indications of an increase in the actual number of people who fell victims to sexual crimes between 2005-2008

Not much to do with the topic, is it...

I did not bring the topic up. Nevertheless, I didn't feel like letting that pass.

I'll drop it if other people do (see how considerate I am?)

Traditional, time-honorued values are what has enabled nations to survive and thrive over the ages. Trendy, utopianist leftism, iconoclasm, religion- and family-bashing have left only death, destruction and chaos in their wake. "Kto sieje wiatr zbiera burzę!" (He who sows wind harvests a storm.)

trendy utopianism rightist thinking does not have a good track record either.

Moderation in all things (including moderation)

Trendy utopianism has rarely been conservative and tended towards the radical and unproven. The French bloodbath, the Soviet experiment, Hitler's workers' socialism and today's post-hippie anarcho-leftism have all involved trying to convince people that this time, this particular utopia will work, even though all previous ones have failed.

So Saudi Arabia and the Islamic State are leftist to you?

Why not bring Monaco and Bolivia into the equation for maximum confusion? Violence is neither leftist or rightist, but today in the civlised world (I don't know or care whether this also applies to Pygmies and Bushmen!) conservatives are generally for tradition, stability and time-honoured solutions that have worked. Leftists want to shake things up through social experimentation and engineering, pansexualise society, undermine traditonal authorities, destroy the "patriarchal" (i.e. normal) family) and replace it with unproven alternative hook-ups regardless of the harm that causes to children.

So.. Monaco isn't civilized?

Monaco is extraneous and irrelevant to this discussion. However, if you are unable to comprehend my multi-syllabicated phraseology due to the miniscule cranial capacity of your cerebrum, please feel free to substitue Somalia or Afghanistan for Monaco.

Franco's Spain was a nice example of a rightwing utopia that failed because it was too counter to human nature (and the killing let's not forget the death toll).

What works best is a stable foundation that gets shaken up some from time to time to keep it from stagnating into traditionalism.

Rightist dreams of a nation of female homebodies with no interests beyond kinder, kirche, küche are just as stultifying and suffocating as left wing extremism is disorienting and nihilistic.

Moderation in all things, including moderation.

To show some sense. You are talking stories. Unless you want to illustrate with something more than some Wiki that such practises are not only common in Cambodia but do have blessing of the authorities, both religious and lay and are embodied in law. Otherwise I'm afraid what you are doing is talking porkies and you what me to take it seriously. Think again.


Your feminine intuition is not good. I don't care who I'm talking to. I'm focusing on consistency and quality of your arguments. I say it now and again but seems to me that no one is taking it seriously, you should. I don't care if you're a man or a woman, black or white, gay or normal.

If your logic and quality of your argument is high I'll respect it and if it not I will tell you that you suck, no need to look for nefarious or ulterior motives. It is that simple.


So what? The law says (at least until recently) that a couple not in rural are is allowed to have only a one child. What people are doing and all that abuse doesn't make women into second class citizens. BC the state doesn't force people to do what they do.

Furthermore what it has to do with anything - another random example. Why don't you get to the point? Mods are getting antsy.


Right about you not being very intelligent. Maybe it is a question of experience and with your limited experience you just don't get it.


I'm not going to translate for gregy who has his problems and meltdowns. I'm surprised that you're not familiar with that phrase - real men - means acting decisively, boldly, get to the chase, solving problems without too much hassle and redundant chatter and chaos.


Implementing laws without prejudice - that is what he had in mind most likely. That there is no sacred cows, or protected minorities or other crap that leftie progressives introduced to destroy fundaments of the western civilisation.

He just don't get it that all this is an effect of the evil leftie ideology that is brainwashing people and transforming them in a watery brainless goo. Easy to manipulate.

This animosity (or victimhood) between men and women - fault of the neo-Marxist BS including feminism.
There is no reason for men and women go against each other - quite the contrary there is every reason for both sexes to cooperate and support each other.

Lefties persuade women that they are exploited, are worse off than men and that this all is the fault of some imaginary shadowy patriarchy.
Those women who fall for that are pushing back in the most stupid and counterproductive way - trying to become men in a sense. Introducing laws and regulations that actually are not fair and oppressive to-men

That create resentment and volá the class war between sexes is an expected result of the progressive meddling. Who is the winner - some evil lefties who are after power and who in the normal healthy society would never rise above a gutter where crooked and perverted individuals dwell, together with their unsavoury evil ideas.

Please avoid excessive quoting

He's now been rightly punished. This is actually the third time he's been suspended and a petition about this in Polish was signed by around a million people:


theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/14/polish-mep-janusz-korwin-mikke-punished-saying-women-less-intelligent-men

No freedom of speech in the EU.

Plenty of freedom of speech. No breaking parliamentary standards that you have agreed to follow.

I wonder if Janusz Korwin-Mikke would have been punished if he said that men are less intelligent than women. Given the equal rights status assumed for both sexes in the European Parliament, he should have been punished as well. But I sincerely doubt it would have happened. Everyone would just have laughed at him and then pass to mind their own bussiness.

Do women generally get higher pay than men? Do men often have to put up with such illogical crap?

For doing the same job? No, it would be illegal.


Like women getting rights to keep the child after divorce?

Rightly so.


We know your current situation, and we know that custody rules exist for a reason...

Nice that you agree, prolly because you didn't get it but still nice.


You and the voices in your head? Please enlighten us.


Yes, to prove that there is no patriarchy in the west.

Milions of women (and plenty of men too) would disagree and Korwin-Mikke has been rightly punished. However much you dislike that.

Media is a powerful brainwashing tool.


Plenty of cucks.


I don't care about Mikke however punishment will not effect him at all.

People make their own minds up


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Nevertheless it is justified and has to be seen to be done.

They get mentally enslaved.


Don't do question marks, you know you're one of them.

Speak for yourself.

Korwin-Mikke's comments were as usual offensive and deliberately demeaning. For this he has rightly been punished according to the rules he agreed to when taking his seat.

Franco's Spain was nasty until you consider the altetrnative: Stalinist Spain. If that had succeeded, Europe would have been flanked by two outposts of murderous bolshevism and it wouldn't end there.

irrelevant to you question, you wanted an example of a rightist conservative utopian government (or words to that effect) and you got it

So was Salazar, Hitler and Mussolini utopian? I ask becuase I had never heard anyone regard Franco as a utopian. They were all power-hungry dictators and the fact they cooked up some ideology to justify their crimes did not make them utopian.

Not so much utopian as.... he had a conservative regressive ideal and he aggressively pursued it, if you can read Spanish look at the media during his reign, it was very.... PRLish but with catholicism and the purity of the Spanish woman and isolation instead of socialism, worker struggle and comecon.