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Local elections - anyone care to comment?


OP InWroclaw 89 | 1,910
24 Nov 2014 #31
Technical failure resulted with counting votes late and announcing results later then usual. People voted already and their votes could be counted - even manually. No need for new election. Any complains as for the results/procedure etc can be dealt by court locally as it was done in previous elections.

No truth then in news reports that 20% of voting ballots were spoilt and/or in some areas a vote had already been cast by means of a cross or tick BEFORE the ballot paper was handed to the legitimate constituent to vote with? In other words, some reports allege many ballot papers were handed to people to use to vote but a 'X' was already on them in a pre-selected candidate's tick box. Although it's hard to believe, Ii indeed that's true then I'd say it's a pretty good reason to do the election again.
jon357 74 | 22,469
24 Nov 2014 #32
in some areas a vote had already been cast by means of a cross or tick BEFORE the ballot paper was handed to the legitimate constituent to vote with?

I'd say it's very hard to believe. Voting fraud does exist in Poland, at least at a low level (a few years ago a Sołtys was found to have 42 people registered as living in his 3 bedroom house) but essentially things are done correctly in PL and something like that would have come up immediately, loudly and under media scrutiny.

Certain political tendencies like nothing more making than wild allegations, the wilder the better. Paradoxically, they are the ones most likely to get up to something dodgy.
Kowalski 7 | 621
24 Nov 2014 #33
To vote for Sejmik one had to choose one candidate, the booklet for Sejmiki had several pages - many marked one candidate on each page....not bothering to read or educate before voting.

Any irregularities anyway should and would be dealt by local courts. If elections would be repeated then only locally. Again no need to new elections countrywide some argue for (PiS SLD)

Very disappointed with SLD....I understand and expect not much from Kaczynski who would call the elected president "ten Pan" but SLD?? ... questioning election and calling for making them again, nationwide is a big surprise to me and first of all disgusting, political antidemocratic maneuver. Bag of scumbags they are along with PiS now. Miller who could pride himself of getting us into EU now is questioning our young democracy.

Elections were local - for those not understanding - there is no assembly of all elected, no such institution -only locally, where protests are examined by court we could have elections done again.
jon357 74 | 22,469
24 Nov 2014 #34
"ten Pan" but SLD?? ... questioning election and calling for making them again

They've a lot more in common with PiS than you'd think. Confusion and chaos suit them both - and alleging a fiasco certainly suits them at the moment.
Crow 160 | 9,098
24 Nov 2014 #35
Poland: Occupying protesters evicted from Electoral Commission HQ


jon357 74 | 22,469
24 Nov 2014 #36
An interesting source you've found there, Crowie...
weeg
25 Nov 2014 #37
It's the officially state funded Web site of the country that wants to wipe Poland from the map, so it's more predictable than surprising from a fan of Russia.
pawian 223 | 24,583
7 Apr 2024 #38
Various funny incidents have taken place at the local elections today
E.g,

A man was offering voters money for voting for the candidate he indicated. He offered 4 beer cans and a bar of chocolate to encourage people to vote for his female partner.

An unusual situation occurred at the polling station in Słubice. One of the commission members saw a voter who placed a gun on the ballot card. Although the weapon turned out to be a fake, officers had to arrive at the scene.

A bizarre situation occurred during Sunday's local government elections in the Wieruszów commune - the name of one of the candidates was not on the ballot papers. The error was noticed and corrected within half an hour of the start of voting in the local elections, and the ballots with the mistake were immediately withdrawn and replaced with the correct ones. Despite quick intervention, three voters managed to cast their votes using defective ballots.

During Sunday's local government elections, at one of the district electoral commission's premises in the Załuski commune in Płońsk county, a woman tore the collected voting card and then left. The chairwoman of the commission reported the incident to the police. The circumstances of the incident are being investigated.

Possible electoral crime in the Płaska commune (Podlaskie Voivodeship). The police are checking whether a woman running for a seat on the commune council transported voters to the voting site and paid them for voting for her. On Sunday, the police received a report about a candidate for the commune council in Płaska, who was supposed to transport people to vote, the police said. The candidate was also supposed to provide a financial benefit to one person to persuade him to vote in a specific way.

The second report concerned the destruction of an election banner in Białystok. - The police are conducting legal proceedings in connection with the reports, Krupa said.

Among the incidents of breaking the election silence on Sunday, Krupa mentioned, among others: "setting up an advertising device" to conduct an election campaign in Sejny, in Hajnówka placing leaflets of various candidates near the polling station, and in Białystok destroying and hanging posters and agitating by sending text messages.

mafketis 37 | 10,880
7 Apr 2024 #39
According to exit polls, results are roughly what most expected... PiS has the highest result (but less than Oct? I thought it might be higher since the frequency was a lot lower).

Also lewica finished behind konfederacja (boo hiss)

In good news Trzaskowski easily won reelection as mayor Warsaw in the first round (as did Dulkiewicz in Gdańsk).
Ironside 51 | 12,473
7 Apr 2024 #40
Also lewica finished behind konfederacja (boo hiss)

Good, why would you cheer for those crazy leftie morons? If you miss them go to the US.
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In good news Trzaskowski

How it is good news? It is not good news for the city.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
7 Apr 2024 #42
why would you cheer for those crazy leftie morons?

At least they're not pro-russian like konfederacja....

pro-russia = worst option for Poland
Ironside 51 | 12,473
8 Apr 2024 #43
At least they're not pro-russian

Whoever told you that is a political idiot or lied to you.
pawian 223 | 24,583
9 Apr 2024 #44
At least they're not pro-russian like konfederacja....

Yes, it is an astounding paradox. Far right Konfederacja is pro Russian. While standard left who stemmed from communist apparatchiks is patriotic - it was them who staunchly advocated Polish membership in NATO and EU 30 years ago. Amasing!!!

political idiot

Calling names won`t help you sweep the truth about pro Russian far right Konfederacja under the carpet.
Ironside 51 | 12,473
9 Apr 2024 #45
Far right Konfederacja is pro Russian.

You lying B'tch. You are known to be a liar.

standard left

Are scumbacks and belong in prison.
pawian 223 | 24,583
9 Apr 2024 #46
Young people prefer to ignore local elections as voters coz they have no idea who to vote for.

However, some youngsters treat local elections as a career development. They run for positions of rural mayors or local council members. Even as young as 18. Amasing!



jon357 74 | 22,469
10 Apr 2024 #47
They run for positions of rural mayors or local council members. Even as young as 18

There's one in posters near me that looks about 15. Presumably he's 18 if he's standing for election however looking at the poster I'd be more likely to give him a shilling for washing the car than trust him in serious matters.

An update, of the two people I know who were standing, one (the very right wing one allied with Konfa) didn't win (good) and the centre right one who was standing for Platforma did win (also good).

Young people prefer to ignore local elections as voters coz they have no idea who to vote for

It's more that older people are more closely attuned to community issues.
pawian 223 | 24,583
10 Apr 2024 #48
They run for positions of rural mayors or local council members.

And some of them win!!!

older people are more closely attuned

Yes, exactly. They have more time to check on candidates.
I must admit I didn`t have that time to do the checking and I just voted for the party which I always support. However, I didn`t vote for No 1 in the list, which is customary in Poland when voters don`t know how to vote. I chose the youngest candidate and she was 21. Young people need support from elderly teachers like me.

BTW, in Polish elections you put a cross next to the candidate you choose.
How about elections in the UK? Do you put a tick for the positive choice?
jon357 74 | 22,469
10 Apr 2024 #49
They have more time to check on candidates.

More that they're more interested in their local community.

I just voted for the party which I always support

Me too, and frankly I loathe the candidate both personally and politically however he stood for the right party.

How about elections in the UK? Do you put a tick for the positive choice?

Obviously I vote in elections (local and national) in both places and there are differences and similarities. The U.K. doesn't usually use the list system (though in some places that exists in specific circumstances).

Generally in the U.K. for national and local elections you have one small voting slip with the names of the candidates and their party and you put an X next to the candidate you want to win. As teachers however, we both know that when marking papers X is what we put next to an incorrect answer and to be fair, that's how it often is in elections...
pawian 223 | 24,583
12 Apr 2024 #50
Trzebnica became an election sensation because one vote determined who would be the mayor there. Now it turned out that in one of the committees the sister of the winning candidate counted the votes. One of the rival candidates has already filed an election protest.

The case will be reviewed by the court


X is what we put next to an incorrect answer and to be fair, that's how it often is in elections...

:):):) I thought Brits use their positive ticks in elections, too. :):)
pawian 223 | 24,583
21 Apr 2024 #51
Various funny incidents have taken place at the local elections today
E.g,

This incident was a bit dangerous:

- In a certain village, there was information that the current mayor, who is running for the position again, together with his deputy, transported voters in private cars to the polling station. Another candidate for mayor in this village decided to intervene and stopped the car driven by one of these men, and because the other man did not want to stop, the candidate was driven several dozen meters on the hood of the car - Sych described the situation.

- Therefore, the event had potentially serious consequences. The man who traveled on the hood was taken to the emergency room. The police confiscated the driver's driving document. It took actions under Article 498 of the Electoral Code (conducting electioneering during the election silence - ed.) and Article 86 of the Petty Offenses Code (threat to road traffic safety - ed.) - he added.

pawian 223 | 24,583
21 Apr 2024 #52
Today we had the second round of local government elections.

Some big cities were experiencing am extra time after the first round 2 weeks ago.

Exit polls:

Krakow
Aleksander Miszalski ( KO ) 51.1 %
Łukasz Gibała ( KWW Łukasz Gibała ) 48.9 %

Wrocław
Jacek Sutryk ( KWW Jacek Sutryk, with the support of KO ) 67.8 %
Izabela Bodnar ( Third Way ) 32.2 %

Rzeszów -

Konrad Fijołek ( KWW Konrad Fijołek, with the support of KO ) 56.1 %
Waldemar Szumny ( PIS ) 43.9 %

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