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Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps'


TheWizard - | 130    
8 Apr 2018  #1,141
No one i know thinks well of Israel or jews anymore. They are now just hypocrites and tainted. Just about everything they say now is BS and zionist propaganda. No way i would do business with any of them.
G (undercover)    
8 Apr 2018  #1,142
True. Screw them, damn clowns.
TheWizard - | 130    
8 Apr 2018  #1,143
They over played their victim card and while doing so have now created victims of their own doing, while spouting diarrhea at the same time. Honestly i dont know one person who now likes israel, in the past that was unthinkable. Their fake country has really outlived irself. But....thats a problem for them and the arabs and supporters of theirs. As for Poland there probably isn't a person left who would risk their life again to save a jew.
RudyKot    
8 Apr 2018  #1,144
Their fake country has rea

Hey, they should keep their country. We just shouldn't do any business with them. PiS is on thier knees and lets them make money in Poland. That should stop.

True that in Poland noone likes Israel any more, not that they care. Screw them but wisely.
PiS is all the talk. Pussies.
TheWizard - | 130    
8 Apr 2018  #1,145
Well Poland needs to maintain diplomatic relations. Poles have made this mistake before and the price is too high. The ranting zionists have support in powerful places which we need. Karma is a biatch and it won't be Poland dishing it out but one of their middle east neighbours. Pis isn't as stupid as that. They need to play the game and they know it.
Lyzko 17 | 4,558    
8 Apr 2018  #1,146
I'm not lecturing, Sig, I'm remonstrating.

Yo Rudy! Go PiS offLOL
Slavictor 9 | 173    
8 Apr 2018  #1,147
a country who shot 800 protester

Sig, overall wounding 1400 and 17 dead. I don't want to crosspost, so visit message #517 in Off-Topic > Random chat Poland

Link and video there
SigSauer 2 | 444    
8 Apr 2018  #1,148
I watched it. While the facts in the video are accurate, the message gets lost easily when the person delivering it is a Kremlin apologist who believes in multipolarity, and blatantly lied about 'Neo-nazis" in Kyiv being armed by the United States. He is an RT sock puppet, so his credibility is easily impugned. Granted, it's not a story that anyone that wishes to keep a career in journalism would ever undertake.

To the earlier posts, I think there should continue to be a distinction made between the State of Israel, and the Jewish faith/ethnicity.
RudyKot    
8 Apr 2018  #1,149
o Rudy! Go PiS offLOL

What?
Lyzko 17 | 4,558    
9 Apr 2018  #1,150
Just a pun, Rudy, and a poor one:-) No offense meant, merely yours truly acting foolish by blowing off a little steam by pretending to be cleverLOL
OP WielkiPolak 55 | 1,023    
15 Apr 2018  #1,151
Not meaning to kickstart this thread again but as relations between Poland and Israel had cooled off a little in recent weeks, or at least, people had moved on to other issues, the Israeli President seemingly ignited the fire again with the following statements a few days ago in Poland.

"There is no doubt that there were many Poles who fought the Nazi regime, but we cannot deny that Poland and Poles had a hand in the extermination." [This statement breaks the Polish law if it was said].

He is also reported to have said "The country of Poland allowed the implementation of the horrific genocidal ideology of Hitler."

timesofisrael.com/poland-and-poles-helped-in-nazi-extermination-rivlin-tells-polish-counterpart

Neither of these comments have been seen on video but were apparently stated in a private meeting between the Polish and Israeli president, even though the Times of Israel claims it was said during a press conference [I watched the press conference and it wasn't said there].

Interestingly, President Duda said these words were never said by Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, although the Israeli President has not denied saying them, despite it being all over the Israeli media now, and his spokesman confirmed when asked, that the statements quoted in the press are correct and were said.

During the March of the Living the Israeli President said that Poland was fertile ground for the Nazi Germans to exterminate Jews, because of all the antisemitism. This speech was broadcast live and can be watched on youtube I believe.
Dirk diggler 7 | 2,975    
16 Apr 2018  #1,152
They need to stop explaining themselves... you think you're going to talk to Israel rationally?! Ha! Poles need to worry about Polish people and let Israel worry about Israelis and killing Palestinians kids throwing rocks
delphiandomine 86 | 16,322    
16 Apr 2018  #1,153
WP - meanwhile, our favourite creep is silent on Twitter again.

Either way, the planting of those signs and then the comments by the Israeli President make it crystal clear that someone wanted to stir up more tension.
OP WielkiPolak 55 | 1,023    
16 Apr 2018  #1,154
The planting of those 'this is a Polish concentration camp' signs was terrible, but isn't as a big of a deal, as you will always find a few idiots among thousands who want to cause a problem or be controversial. Although interestingly I hadn't see it covered by any Polish or Israeli media - I only found out about this on twitter [as I imagine you did delph]. Has anyone here read about these signs in the media?

What is troubling is that the president of Israel said what he said. It's just like with the initial outrage. The fact that the Israeli media went for Poland was one thing, but prime minister Netanyahu criticising Poland raised it up a notch from Poland vs Israeli media to Poland vs Israel.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,322    
16 Apr 2018  #1,155
It is troubling, because there's one thing to discuss the political climate in the II RP, or to discuss the ethnic tensions, but to say that the country of Poland had a hand in it is completely wrong. Could it be that he was probing Duda to see how the law would be used in practice?

I saw those signs on Facebook, but you're right, it wasn't in the Polish media from what I saw. Odd.
Lyzko 17 | 4,558    
16 Apr 2018  #1,156
More than terrible, inaccurate at best, moreover grossly unfair to the vast majority of Poles whose nation has been besmerched for far too long as it is.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,521    
17 Apr 2018  #1,157
If I had the chance I wish I could save at least one Israelite
Witold Pilecki was allways a great inspiration
At least he tried to tell the truth to the world.
-most loyal lama

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvDg7UftJw8
Link is to a song sang by a Swedish metal band about the hero of mankind
TheWizard - | 130    
17 Apr 2018  #1,158
The Israeli prime minister is a crim and is avoiding their police somehow, through typical corruption i would say. Why would someone under investigation for such major corruption even be given the time of day? He should never be let in until he answers charges. Typical jewish conman from a conman fake country with fake history.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,521    
17 Apr 2018  #1,159
I guess you ain't a catholic
Otherwise you wouldn't be so harmful towards Israelites... no matter how frustrating it would be
TheWizard - | 130    
17 Apr 2018  #1,160
I don't believe in any god, i am supposed to be a catholic but here that means child molestor.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,521    
17 Apr 2018  #1,161
Tell them you ain't a priest :)
Lyzko 17 | 4,558    
17 Apr 2018  #1,162
The Norwegians too had a heroic resistance movement as well, although their leader at the time, hr. Quisling, sided with Hitler. Sort of reminds me a little of Vichy France, with a Nazi Petain and Laval, but at the same time, the likes of a Jean Moulin and numerous others to make up for that unfortunate turn of political events.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,521    
17 Apr 2018  #1,163
I consider myself a human being first and foremost...
If your aim was to provoke you would have to do better.

Worst Norwegian was Jonas Lie (if I am not mistaken). He was the Nazi police minister in Norway during WW2 if I remember correctly. Sadly he didn't get to be hanged
Lyzko 17 | 4,558    
17 Apr 2018  #1,164
Any relation to Trygve Lie?
Being that you are a Norwegian, I was scarcely provoking, unless of course you might have not grasped what I was trying to say.
OP WielkiPolak 55 | 1,023    
17 Apr 2018  #1,165
Looks as though Poland's Ruch Narodowy is going to see if this anti defamation law means a damn.

timesofisrael.com/polish-nationalists-seek-probe-of-rivlin-over-holocaust-remarks

They have called for an investigation in to whether the Israeli president said Poland was also responsible for the Holocaust while on Polish soil, as the Israeli media have reported.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,322    
18 Apr 2018  #1,166
Doesn't the Israeli President have diplomatic immunity? Still, not a bad idea to test it.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,521    
18 Apr 2018  #1,167
@Lyzko
That is your perspective

@delph
Why start a fire? Why on earth? Doesn't Poland have more important matters to attend to?
TheWizard - | 130    
18 Apr 2018  #1,168
Yes Poland needs diplomacy. Let the lying jews get sorted by their neighbours, after all most of the world hates their guts. I agree though they should not trade, bare minimum necessary. Poland needs to stay out of these affairs, zionist trash has their hands full anyway with iran and others so let them dig their own grave.
OP WielkiPolak 55 | 1,023    
18 Apr 2018  #1,169
Doesn't the Israeli President have diplomatic immunity?

Very possibly. Another reason why this law is beginning to look more and more useless - too many people are exempt from it.
Dirk diggler 7 | 2,975    
18 Apr 2018  #1,170
Diplomatic immunity does not exempt an individual from everything only some laws and taxes and you get special license plates, use, etc. A costa rican ambassador found that out the hard way when he tries to smuggle a few kilos of heroin into poland. The new holocaust appears not to extend to diplomats.

**** Israel. I am so sick of poles explaining this law and try to convince other countries that its right. It's not their business to decide what laws poland should or shouldn't have. Israel has far stricter holocaust speech laws yet no ones criticizing them for having the same type of laws as poland. Complete bs. Poland does not need israel and would be infinitely better off without zionist meddling.




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