Beata Szydło - the best Polish politician, world's politicians could learn from her

@peter_olsztyn

We? You don't represent my country. Beata Szydlo is the most popular Polish politician something that Morawiecki chameleon will never achieve.


So why you live in communism and use its benefits, you think Poland is 100% capitalist? People have to separate communist, leftist, socialist ideals that mostly are damaging to Poland from economic effects of communism. Your family or families of many Polish could not afford to live under the capitalist system of it wasn't for the old communist system of rentals in the old city buildings (kamienice), and it is funny how the same people who criticise the economies of communism and its handouts are the one who, unknowingly use it to their benefit. Kamienice is just one example. Beata Szydlo's 500 + package was aimed at not just helping Polish families but also at making sure that Polish population rises and counterbalances the numbers of Polish who left to live abroad. This was a an excellent move, although not a perfect one, perfect solutions can be afforded in rich countries, not Poland, so a little flexibility wulkan.

Beata Szydlo turned away from Morawiecki ostensibly during his official appointment ceremony. He is focusing on international trade, mainly foreign investment into Poland. This, I bet was what Szydlo did not want, and rightly so, Polish businessmen are not strong enough to compete with richer foreigners. Szydlo was a safer, more prudent in her position as prime minister, prudence is what Poland needs now, not showman Morawiecki.

Agreed. Shell have a cushy job nonetheless. What gives me hope though is kaczynski is still puppet master and morawiecki publicly stated that the court changes will continue and that poland will seek to bring western europe back to its traditional christian roots.

I guaruntee you the reasons for all these moves is bc the french asked for it. Sometimes personalities agreeing are more important. Id say poland is in an even better place now bc eu affirmed theres no threat to eu funds. I think they just wanted to deal with different people. I do worry morawiecki may one day sell out though

See you later, aligator! Bye, bye, crocodile!

Forget it. Mission impossible. Poland shouldn`t waste Her strength on that.

That population was first separated from its Slavic (ie Sarmatin) origin, deeply Romanized, and this what happening to them is only continuation of that sad story. Romans always tended to merge with Egyptians. Its just how it is. Its not easy, I know but, forget it. Take them out from your soul. Cancer must be cut off.

Some of them shall return to us, escape from that where masters of their destine wants to put them. When they come as refugees, in memory of our common ancestors we shall accept them.

No it shouldnt youre right. Western europe is doomed to live in a multicultural hell with terrorism nonstop rapes nonstop state of emergency ninja women van rammings economic parasites etc. But the message is clear - poland wishes to remain a christian traditional society and does not want to become an immigrant country like france or germany

That's odd, because the murder rate in the USA, where you live, Dirk, is at least 5 times higher than in western Europe, and the incidence of rapes is at least double (and often treble). You can check these stats on wiki.

A person is much more likely to be murdered or raped in the USA than in ANY western European country. And if you get raped or murdered the ethnicity or religion of the perpetrator is probably a distant concern - you're still dead or raped. What a person really cares about is if it will happen to them. And if you live in the goold ole US of A, it is MUCH more likely to happen to you.

So it's much safer to live in these "hell" countries of western Europe than in the USA.

thank you Casual Observer for your casual observation.
Hush though Dirk doesn't like reality or truth,

Hush Casual is Harry don't let on

Yes, USA has a higher homicide rate (which FBI statistics prove overwhelmingly caused by blacks and Hispanics who tend to be both perpetrator and victim more often than Caucasians, Asian, native americans, pacific islanders, etc.) than just about any country but at least we don't have a NYE tradition of mass sexual assaults where a thousand women are inappropriately touched (Germany), nor we have a years long state of emergency due to nonstop rioting (France), arson, and general problems caused by non-Europeans especially in the suburbs surrounding paries (i.e. Saint Denis), nor do we have soldiers beheaded on our streets (England), people being stabbed for buying beer on ramadumb (France, Sweden) . Unlike the US, migrants don't need to be given pamphlets that explain to them they simply cannot grab women and have their way with them (Sweden). At this rate, they'll end up having as high of a homicide rate as the US. Certainly native Europeans aren't the ones causing the rape, murder, and assault statistics to skyrocket in places like Sweden, Germany, etc.

Anyway, this is about Poland and specifically about Beata Szydlo and what the world's politicians could learn from her.

Poland however has a far lower rate of terrorism - ZERO ATTACKS - which the west cannot say.


Of course, that is why Polish politicians like Szydlo and society at large have decided we don't want to take the risk of terrorism, mass sexual assaults, etc. occurring in Poland.

You mean American citizens, like you, yeah?


What about that guy who deployed a pressure cooker bomb on a bus in Wroclaw? Or do you only call it terrorism if the perp has brown skin?

Isn't there an issue of far-right terrorism, though, such as attacks on mosques and attacks on visiting German professors on trams for their nationality?

I know why you're persisting with this Harry thing, it's to try and imply that everything I said about Bialowieza Forest is somehow 'fake'. Despite the fact that I am not hiding my ISP, and the mods can (and presumably have) easily checked to show where it is coming from and that it's not duplicated. It's a bit like me claiming that you're Crow "et al.", because you both have an obsession with racial profiles and islamic terrorism. Just sayin', "boy".

(I never knew that et alia and 'boy' were such rare words in Dirk's part of the USA)

Convicted. And there was that idiot that tried to blow up the Sejm, also convicted.

And there's someone else up on terror charges too.


Don't boast.

Well, that's something that Poland should be very very proud of. Europe has been racked by islamic terrorism and thanks to Poland's (specifically PiS as PO wanted to bring people in, despite what the vast majority of Poles desired) policies we've largely been spared. Plus, police and the people are very weary and rather nosy towards foreigners - especially those from vastly different cultures. Even the arabs that tried to buy ak's in Gdansk promptly got turned by the seller. If we let a bunch of people in without any vetting and let them do whatever they want instead of basically forcing them to work, assimilate, and be an asset to society we'd end up like France, Germany, Sweden, etc.

Poland let in over 1 million Ukrainians - no issues of terrorism, skyrocketing rapes, etc.... Germany lets in over 1 million migrants from ME/Africa - tons of problems. Clearly the variable is who you let in. Plus, the Ukrainians actually want to work and are willing to take jobs even if they pay very little. Not many of the migrants though - go to Germany, Sweden, or even UK and you'll see the tons of migrants just wandering about aimlessly, not in any sort of rush to get back to any job. In the best scenario, they're hawking t-shirts at stands or selling individual Heineken's to tourists (very popular amongst Pakistani migrants) which obviously the state isn't getting any income tax from.

Where have you seen this in "Germany, Sweden, or even the UK" (your words)? Can you give specific examples? Because I have never, ever seen it.

Lest it be forgotten that Germmany, Sedden and the UK have also each "let in" (your words) about a million Poles each. Do a quick google and you'll find many cases of social 'problems' resulting from unemployed or grey economy Poles in those countries.

There are Pakistani-born immigrants in the UK House of Lords (upper chamber), with the title of 'Lord'. There are no Polish-born yet. The point here is that it is very easy to pick out examples of a certain ethnicity causing a 'problem' while ignoring all of the others that contribute. You tend to single out people from Africa and the Middle East, whereas someone else might want to single out Poles, using exactly the same reasoning and logic as you. You would BOTH be idiots for doing so, and you are ONLY doing so because you have an agenda to demonise one set of people and turn parts of society against each other.

I'm pretty sure that we can dig up some examples of Americans not long ago describing Polish immigrants in similar negative terms that you are about 'Pakistanis' in Europe (where you don't even live, so I'm not sure what position of authority you think you speak from). Of course, you will say "but my parents integrated [gave up speaking Polish, did they?], and contributed!" Of course, I don't doubt it. But millions of 'Pakistanis' can say exactly the same as you. Yet here you are, treating them all as if they're jihadis. How would you feel if all Swedes and Brits talked about *all* Polish immigrants in the same way? People like your parents? That they sit on park benches drinking Tyskie all day, and stealing carp from the lakes, and eating swans? Cos that's what the British and Swedish version of you says about 'immigrants' from Poland. And you're doign exactly the same. Grow up, be a decent human being.

Until it happens. We were fortunate that the Wroclaw bus bomber didn't blow that bus up, and as the prosecution said, the bomb would have killed and maimed a large amount of people if it had gone off.

Is this common in Poland, how many bomb and terrorist incidents have there been?, I heard about the bus in the last five years, are there more, is there a cover up?.

Sure, Dortmund, Berlin, and London. There were a tons of ninja women too. Plenty of young dudes just standing idly by the subway entrances especially just waiting for people to pickpocket, ask for money, women to try to pick up, etc. There's also tons of videos about this including one where a camera crew from a liberal station I believe CNN tried to interview the migrants in Sweden but they were all promptly attacked by migrants. Funny, they came to make a video showing that it's not all that bad in Sweden and migrants aren't causing any problems yet ended up getting beat up and chased away by migrants lolololol.


At least they're not blowing people up, beheading German/British/Swedish/etc soldiers, mowing groups of people down with AKs, driving vans into crowds, or stabbing people for buying alcohol on a holiday.

One only needs to watch the Polish government's (specifically MFA's) video to understand the position of the Polish people and our democratically elected government: youtube.com/watch?v=e4EHOk7T4QQ this video is very informative and I encourage everyone here to watch it

Of course the vast majority of Muslim migrants AREN'T terrorists. However, a significant percentage reject the values of European society such as equality with women, separation of church and state, ability to buy/sell alcohol, etc. One only needs to read the studies which show the beliefs of various Muslim countries - i.e. Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The percentage of people that believe in Sharia law, that say suicide bombing is acceptable in certain circumstances, etc is appalling. 91% of Iraqis want to make sharia law the law of the land - and you wonder why there's people marching with Sharia4UK, Sharia4Belgium flags etc.9% of Pakistanis and 14% of Nigerians have a FAVORABLE view of ISISand we wonder why there's nonstop terror attacks in Europe. And we're letting these people right into Europe and giving them food and housing too! Thankfully, not Poland though.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/


You can count on 2 fingers the amount of terror attacks in Poland. Now if you did the same with France, Germany, etc you'd run out of fingers and toes. And that's just terror attacks - everyday the residents in places like Calais fear for their safety and the women publicly go on TV begging the French government to do something

All countries have a problem with political terrorism (far left or far right), including Poland. It never goes away - people bomb bars, gay venues, beat up doctors who give abortions, attack 'foreigners' or anyone different. It's how the nazis started in Germany, as a domestic far right movement with a terrorist wing. But it is true that Poland has not experienced islamic terrorism, and that's a good thing. But the 'problem' really is vastly overplayed - many more Spamnish were killed by Basques than by muslims. Many more Brits killed by Catholics than by muslims.

Despite all of the perceived threat in westenr Europe, you are still much more likely to be violently murdered in Serbia or USA than in UK or Germany.

I suspect now that more people in Poland are getting easier access to guns (including automatic), the violent death rate there will also increase. Guys angry at their wife's lover, drunk guys messing around the arguing, guys who hate gay people, guys who don't like hearing German spoken on the Wroclaw tram...

Ahh here it is - it was 60 minutes that was attacked by migrants in Sweden

youtube.com/watch?v=y8OY_KUNqQ4

They wanted to do an expose showing that it's not all that bad, there's no 'no go' zones, and it's totally safe - yet they end up getting assaulted by the same people they're trying to show aren't a threat.

A person merely needs to google or youtube keywords like 'migrant attack' 'migrant crisis' 'no go zone' 'migrant rapes' to see hundreds if not thousands of articles and videos showing how young male migrants are literally pillaging and raping all over western Europe.


All countries don't have a thousand women groped and sexually assaulted on a NYE party, all countries don't have 100 people killed in a single Islamic terror attack (except for muslim countries like Afghanistan and Iraq where car bombings and suicide bombings are merely part of everyday life), all countries don't have their own soldiers beheaded on public streets, all countries don't have people stabbing others for buying a beer, all countries don't have a nonstop state of emergency thanks to nonstop rioting, all countries don't have literally thousands of cars are torched (i.e. the 2005 riots in France) because migrants are having a hissy fit....

None of those things are happening in Poland. There is no 'political terrorism' by the right or left

To be honest, if you're being violently murdered, I don't think the victim really cares about who or how. They're still just as dead. And the simple inconvenient fact for you is that you're more likely to end up dead in the USA and Serbia than you are in France, UK, or Germany.

I have lived in London, go there often, and I have NEVER seen 'Pakistani' immigrants with 'illegal' stands selling t-shirts, or selling cans of beer on the street. The cliche is that Pakistanis own the convenience stores - they sell beer through the register, then pay the tax! In fact, many of the 'Polski skleps' in UK are actually asian-owned - they just flipped products when the new customers arrived.

But that's not selling blackmarket t-shirts and beer on the street, like you said it was. Why are you trying to change the subject now that I've called you out? You do that a lot.

Why do Ynaks keep saying this?

You do know what happened to your ambassador to Netherlands when he started saying this, don't you? He arrived in his job and the Dutch media owned his ass. Read and weep: bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42671283

There are NO 'no go zones' in the UK. None. Nor in Netherlands. None. It's a Fox News and Trump myth, designed to scare people like you, and like a goon you actually believe it. Seriously, man, it just isn;t true. Even your ambassador admits he was talking shyte. Now, how about you?

I wasn't aiming to post a video about that - the video I was looking for was the one where a camera crew bumps into some friendly migrants in Sweden and is promptly culturally enriched with fists. The woman is lucky she wasn't raped and becomes another victim in the skyrocketing rape statistics.

In London - no there aren't dudes walking around selling Heineken's because they only do that on beaches frequented by tourists - instead in london they just sit around aimlessly while the rest of society works for their benefits. Go to any beach in France or Spain and you'll see pakis selling beer on the beaches. That's like their hustle down there. In Italy the migrants sell fake handbags, pot, etc to tourists.


There are however 'special zones' ... tomato tomato these areas tend to have extreme levels of violence, crime, high unemployment, hotbeds for terrorism, and surprise surprise - are majority migrant

And all countries don't have 58 people killed at a concert, and other countries don't have regular mass killings at schools. But I guess some folks are just lucky to live in a safer countries.

I say again, the chances of being raped in the USA are about 2-3 times higher than in western Europe. The chances of being violently murdered are about 5 times higher. Despote all of the things you say, p[eople are safer in western Europe. If you had kids here, you'd be more likely to see them grow up than if you stay where you are in USA. Or Crow's Serbian utopia (murder rate about twice higher than UK). Come! Bring Trump, we really can't wait, we have the paint bombs all ready!

So why did you post it in direct response (quoting) to my comment on that subject? Losing your thread a bit, fella?

Exactly. Like Poles = ) That's why we aim to keep it that way and not turn Poland into France or Germany.


Now Harry, I don't think you should be writing that you wish to throw bombs at a world leader


No, but France had double that amount of concertgoers being culturally enriched.

Shocking scenes from a no-go zones in Europe:
youtube.com/watch?v=J04Ej1DYO4o

Nope, never seen them, not even on the telly. Do I live in one, I wonder?

Interesting how you've now downgraded your serious-sounding 'no go zones' to 'special', which sounds a whole lot less unpleasant. It's almost as if you're trying to change what you're saying without admitting that you're talking craaap when confronted by someone who actually lives in the palces you are describing from something you saw on Fox News.

@Dirk diggler


Those people lived under such systems for all of their life, so naturally they will not change their views immediately after crossing the borders. Not so long ago, Europe was not a particulary democratic of human-rights adhering continent either. Many older East Germans are still holding on to antidemocratic views, not to mention those who came from Eastern Europe as descendents from German expatriats. Given time, they or at least their children will change their views.


You are still claiming that terrorism is a big problem in Germany even after I explained to you in detail that this is not true?

That is what they are formally called in france - ZUS - which are 'special' urban zones. Whatever you want to call them (I like the name 'shiihole') they all have the same features - extremely dangerous, full of ninjas, ridiculously high unemployment, Arabic being more commonly spoken than the native language, full of signs on lampposts about sharia, no alcohol, no 'provocative clothing', and of course full of migrants.


Oh right because the TERROR ATTACK ON THE GERMAN CHRISTMAS MARKET never happened either right? And neither did the truck ramming, knife attacks, or suicide bombings in 2016 either? The knife attack in Wurzburg, the suicide bombing in ansbach and the truck ramming in berlin - all figments of the imagination...

Of course it is. Terrorism, rapes, all those things that the migrants from ME/Africa brought with them. Funny how the million migrants Poland took in aren't raping women en masse.

Straight from wiki:

Turkish Islamist groups are also active in Germany, and Turkish Islamists have co-operated in Germany as in the case of the Sauerland terror cell.[3] Political scientist Guido Steinberg stated that many top leaders of Islamist organizations in Turkey fled to Germany in the 2000s, and that the Turkish has also "left an imprint on Turkish in Germany."[3] Also many from Iraq (there are about 50,000 to 80,000 Iraqi Kurds in Germany) financially supported Islamist groups like Ansar al Islam.[3] Many Islamists in Germany are ethnically (Iraqi and Turkish) or Turks. Before 2006, the German Islamist scene was dominated by Iraqis and Palestinians, but since 2006 Turks from Turkey are dominant.[3]

Atleast Poland never had a Christmas market attacked by crazy migrants because the million we took in aren't a bunch of crazy radicals who want to mow people down with trucks.


Then they can stay back home or move to a place where they'll assimilate, work, and not have the society have to pay for them and their soccer team of kids.