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Alexander Dugin is coming to Gdańsk!


GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
4 Feb 2023   #1
... or at least he says he's definitely going to come. I couldn't believe my eyes when I opened the 4th page of the latest "Myśl Polska"* (I know, I know... but I can't resist)...

... he's talking about tradition, Christianity, family, holiness etc. He says that continental Europe should be allied to Russia, mentions Polish Sarmatian tradition, his deep sympathy to Poland (even says that he is hypnotised with conservative-romantic aspects of Polish culture) - he's as nice and charming as it gets. Unfortunately, he is not as kind in the interview to the Ukrainians, even calls their country a chimera, accuses them of Polonophobia, and says that they practically don't exist.

In other words he is just being the same Dugin that we all know and love, apart from his newly found love to Poland. :)

One way or another, if there ever is a meeting with him in Gdańsk, I will definitely be attending (and I hope there will be questions from the audience allowed :)). I might even post photos in this thread, so watch this space.

* Aleksander Dugin, Mateusz Piskorski, "Obowiązkowo przyjadę do Gdańska", Myśl Polska 5-6 (2433/2434), 29 January - 5 February 2023, p.4
amiga500  5 | 1503
4 Feb 2023   #2
if you deposit 500 euro for a VIP ticket, he'll allow you to physically lick his ar*sehole while he pontificates on the genocide of the Ukrainian people.
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
4 Feb 2023   #3
he'll allow you to physically lick his ar*sehole

So far he did nothing to deserve such tenderness from me, quite the contrary. But seriously, amiga500, wouldn't you like to ask this guy a question or two in person?
Paulina  16 | 4338
4 Feb 2023   #4
he's as nice and charming as it gets. Unfortunately, he is not as kind in the interview to the Ukrainians

Aww, sounds like Bobko :)))

... or at least he says he's definitely going to come.

But he's been sanctioned by the EU. Doesn't it mean that he can't enter EU countries?
mafketis  38 | 11006
4 Feb 2023   #5
the same Dugin that we all know and love

He has no influence in russia, he does a mystic-monkey act cause westerners fall for it.... he just recycles garbage from previous garbage russian "thinkers" and has no original ideas whatsoever....

hope there will be questions from the audience

Ask him why he had his daughter killed....
pawian  221 | 25343
4 Feb 2023   #6
Mateusz Piskorski,

Am excellent example of old Targowica tradition - to unite with Russians against the interest of Poland, but for your own interest mainly. Simple speaking, a traitor who was already accused of being involved in Russian espionage in Poland.

In 2014, he supported the widely unrecognized referendum in Crimea , during which he led a group of "independent observers."

In May 2016, he was detained by officers of the Internal Security Agency . He was charged with espionage for Russian and Chinese civil intelligence, including participation in operational meetings with contacts and accepting operational tasks to promote Russian interests, for which he was allegedly paid; then, by court decision, he was temporarily arrested.

OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
4 Feb 2023   #7
Doesn't it mean that he can't enter EU countries?

Hmm ... if he's on the sanctions list, it will definitely be a problem.

He was charged with espionage for Russian and Chinese civil intelligence,

Apparently he was acquitted of those charges or he would be rotting in prison, not conducting interviews with philisophers.
pawian  221 | 25343
4 Feb 2023   #8
Apparently he was acquitted of those charges

The investigation is still running, he was released on bail in 2018. This well shows the inefficiency of PiS state - 5 years long proceedings.
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
4 Feb 2023   #9
This well shows the inefficiency of PiS state

... or lack of decisive evidence. I bet they really want to find something on him, but it takes time.
pawian  221 | 25343
4 Feb 2023   #10
"Myśl Polska"* (I know, I know... but I can't resist)...

We forgive you this weakness. But don`t do it too often coz you might soak with their horrendous ideas. :):)

I bet they really want to find something on him, but it takes time.

It still shows the incompetence of those guys at the helm - they can`t find enough evidence for 5 years!
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
5 Feb 2023   #11
The entire interview with Dugin is available here...

myslpolska.info/2023/01/29/dugin-obowiazkowo-przyjade-do-gdanska/

... if you are in Poland, you have to use proxy gate to read it, because our dear rulers try to decide what we are allowed and what we are not allowed to read. :-/
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Feb 2023   #12
Am excellent example of old Targowica tradition - to unite with Russians against the interest of Poland, but for your own interest mainly.

Yup, Piskorski collaborates with RuSSian-state sponsored media - Sputnik and RT. During RuSSian invasion on Ukraine in 2022 he was also appearing on Belarusian media. One can also imagine how "independent" and "objective" was that group of observers that he headed in Crimea during 2014 "referendum", considering Piskorski's pro-RuSSist stance. In the same year he promoted Dugin's book whom he translated himself. Piskorski clearly has a mentality of a treacherous scum. The more it boggles my mind that he was the Polish first lady's translator during her meeting with... war refugees from Ukraine in March 2022. How did it come to this???

But seriously, amiga500, wouldn't you like to ask this guy a question or two in person?

Whatever for? To be honest, I have zero interest in what this nutjob has to say.

... if you are in Poland, you have to use proxy gate to read it

Um... Nope... I can read it in a normal way without any "proxy gate" o_O
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
5 Feb 2023   #13
How did it come to this???

Remember, Paulina, that what we, small people, know is a tiny fragment of political/social reality. We can only try to somehow put smaller pieces into a larger picture, hoping that we will understand what's going on. With Piskorski it's one of the mysteries - such heavy charges and such long proceedings with no decisive evidence presented, his seemingly pro-Russian activities and the fact he was Duda's wife translator etc.

Um... Nope... I can read it in a normal way without any "proxy gate" o_O

Very strange. I can't access it no matter from home of from work...

wolnemedia.net/zablokowano-strone-gazety-mysl-polska/

... oh, right - it says "część operatorów z terenu Polski". It looks like your Internet provided allows more freedom of information than providers in Gdańsk.

Kielce outperforming Gdańsk in freedom of speech - well, I never... :-/
pawian  221 | 25343
5 Feb 2023   #14
scumbags from "Myśl Polska" on the interne

I looked at their site on Youtube. AmaSSing svoloche - fully pro Russian, obsessively antiUkrainian.
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Feb 2023   #15
@pawian, I didn't check their YouTube channel and I don't read their articles (*to be honest, I've never even heard about that "Myśl Polska" before Kania started mentioning it on PF). But that's what is written in an article about "Myśl Polska" in Wikipedia - that during the 2022 RuSSia's invasion of Ukraine they've been promoting pro-RuSSian and anti-Ukrainian views.

*they should pay Kania for advertising lol
OP GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
5 Feb 2023   #16
*they should pay Kania for advertising lol

I would never propagate any point of view for money. That would be morally doubtful; besides I'm comfortable enough financially not to have to do such things. :)
Paulina  16 | 4338
5 Feb 2023   #17
@GefreiterKania, true, you're doing it for them for free :)


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