AfD politician: Poles are land-stealing n*ggers

No, it's not. He called us "Afroamericans of Europe" and this is going way beyond merely criticising. And it didn't come from a Bulgarian, Spaniard or a Dutchman but from the representative of the nation who contributed greatly to the aforementioned feeling of victimhood by murdering 6 million Polish citizens in 6 years. How many European nations could sustain comparable losses without developing some sort of victim complex? It is very disappointing that you don't see how inappropriate it was from a German.

I don't predict a successful political career for him--he doesn't realise that a politician shouldn't say/write everything that he thinks. If you're a retard but you want a political career, it would help greatly if you tried to mask your retardation... or at least you shouldn't parade it with pride.


PiS is slinking into oblivion. Even Nawrocki directs his sympathies more towards Konfederacja.

My German isn't super fluent but the way I read the tweet "Afroameericans of Europe" was about Polish self-image and not his opnion.


Inappropriate but.... then what? How long should people be upset about his tweet?

If he deleted it that would indicate he realized it wasn't kosher (so to speak).

What more reaction do you want?

You would make a good lawyer. If you read the rest of his ramblings maybe it will be a bit more difficult for you to interpret his words with so much good will.

He is a Russian asset. He claims openly that Poland is a bigger threat to Germany than Russia. xD Go ahead, defend him more.


Upset? Who's upset?

We are merely pointing out that retards should perhaps find themselves different occupations than international politics, that's all.


He didn't, it's still there.


AfD is a political party right? So they have their leadership? Well, if those leaders think that his words were inappropriate, they should discipline the young onanist.

If they don't, it means they agree with him.

Oh, they do agree with him...

tysol.pl/a149510-polityk-afd-polska-stanowi-dla-niemiec-o-wiele-wieksze-zagrozenie-niz-rosja

... xD

AfD leader, Tino Chrupalla, said exactly the same thing about Poland being a bigger threat to Germany than Russia. Also, he said that Putin didn't even threaten Germany with nukes, so what's the problem?



So the youngster was just sucking up to his boss xD And here I am thinking that he will be disciplined by the AfD party leadership ha ha

But Mafketis defending pro-putinist politicians? Well I never...

No. I specifically limited my comments to one tweet taken out of context and made it clear, that....


So, another AfD russian asset.... headline news!

The real takeaway is how scr3wed the German political scene is...

CDU - inching towards better policies but unable to do anything because of the misshapen abortion of a coalition

AfD - russian assets

the rest are either compromised by russia or out of touch idiots pursuing economic and social ruin through unsustainable energy and migration and other policies

This is not good for Poland (which cannot take up the slack left by German comprehensive failure).

Poland's current good economic position is largely due to Germany (and the EU of which Germany has been the economic motor for a loooong time)

I know. About 10% of Polish GDP depends on trade exchange with Germany, and we are the 4th largest buyer of German goods. That's why we wish Germany all the best. If only they could somehow control the putinist 5th column, it would really help things. Germany should become the pillar and the mainstay of Central Europe, but with those AfD folks getting ready to play a more significant part in German politics, I am not an optimist. :-/

...thing is....the AfD is a nationalist, Germany-first kind of party. And Poland at this time just IS more hostile than not towards Germany. Not only the highest levels of politicians but the common folks also...as the recent poll shows!

AfD people like Keubel are to be expected to react to that differently to such things like reparation demands as the german leadership who keeps on ignoring that and probably hopes it all goes away somehow...

But its true what Maf says, the only ones sitting cheering with popcorn in the corner are Putin and friends.

Frankly I dunno why that is....and why right now actually....as we both are threatened together by a bigger adversary..but one can't help thinking about that!

....ummm....thanks Novi?

Yeah..he adressed some real points, but frankly I can't see Germany leaving NATO....and the EU is gonna change first....but hey, the recent years had been that wild, with nobody having any plan whatsoever, so...why not!

But one possibility was interestingly totally ignored, the outcome of Russia NOT winning....Putin leaving office (with his feet first or not).....I found that abit lacking...

Ordinary Poles and ordinary Germans are not to blame for artificially inflated political tensions.

....still....the question stays....why right now?

Angry Poles like to vote for a party who openly tries to destroy relationships with Germany and support the long time closed case of reparations.....

The AfD reacts to that as expected....and also gains angry german voters with that....

At some point the ordinary Poles and the ordinary Germans have to think things through and not act like marionettes whose strings are pulled in Moscow!

What? Do you have an issue with it? I don't care, it typical inferior complex of some German retrard. Who cares?
I was annoyed by his nonsense about land theft.
Do I take that he wants it that way, wiggle from paying reparations? He is no different than mainstream German politicians avoiding responsibility.

This repeats itself periodically whenever this party wants to make a political gain. It's called populism, and examples come from America, for example.

Who closed it?

If you mean the ridiculous 1953 "waiver", then it is completely legally invalid: it was made under Soviet pressure and - what's more important:

- Polish Council of Ministers (which made the waiver) did not have the proper constitutional authority to make that decision, so it was illegal to begin with;
- it was not officially published in a way that would make it binding under Polish law, so it's a non-issue - totally illegal nonsense.

So, Poland has a completely valid legal argument for the reparations but Germany simply refuses to negotiate. I can understand the German position of simply refusing to pay for the undeclared war, total destruction of Polish economy, theft of national treasure, works of art etc., slaughter of the elites, war crimes, and 6 million murdered civilians. Whoever would want to pay for silly things like that, right? But the outright stubborn refusal doesn't mean that the "case for reparation is closed". It is not.

Na ja...okay....then the matter of Danzig and Breslau is still open too.....

Do we really want to go down that road?


www-bundestag-de.translate.goog/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1015660?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

I found that a good summary....the case has been closed for decades after the war also by polish governments....till up to the "Two + 4" Talks 1990...not to mention that:


de-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Reparationsforderungen_Polens_gegen_die_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

The UN considers the reparations issue closed. Isn't that enough?

@ Alien
And I, the Imperator of this Galaxy, consider the issue open.
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Talking with a blind person about colors makes more sense than talking with you, clueless people, about reparations.

Seriously....in such a time to support the AfD as a German is one thing, but to support the AfD as a Pole, right out of the polish gov, is another thing alltogether!

No, it really isn't.

Here it is, BB...

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-aid-ukraine-russia-invades-part-89034/13/#msg2048533


October 1991... wait a minute... who was a PM back then... Jan Krzysztof Bielecki, I think. So he promised that his government will not support any claims by Polish citizens against Germany. Did his government go against their word and supported such claims later?

Besides, it is one thing for the government to legally support individual claims by Polish citizens, and completely another to renounce state-level reparations.


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Wow! The UN considers the reparations from Germany to Poland closed. Hmm... in that case I consider all the external debt of Brazil ($550 billion) null and void. Be happy Brazil, you have no more debt - Tudo de bom, Amigos!

What? I have no right to forgive all the debt of Brazil? Exactly.

So...that's how it should go? Polands new best enemy is now Germany?

Seriously?

What a future for our people will that be?

Why? You paid reparations to everyone and their grandmother. Why not Poland? 🤔

...because you got all our land and cities and towns...centuries of history...you keep one case open, the other stays open too...is that so hard to comprehend?

You should really have more sympathy with Russia then...after all they act like it too....feeling they should get back what belongs to them...now that they can!

It's a can of worms that better stays closed in Europe...maybe the AfD Keubel's and Chrupallas and Co are not that wrong?

... but these are two completely separate cases. The lands were never meant to be any sort of reparations. It was Stalin's dirty trick to keep the Soviet Union as Poland's only guarantee of keeping the lands in the West while he stole much more than that in the East, and keep us in eternal check.


Well, not really - the case of borders has been legally settled (did you follow the link above?) whilst the case of reparations hasn't.

Not for a German!


The new legally acknowledged borders ARE the reparation!

What would Poland win with a Germany starting to discuss them too?

If you mean border changes then yes, but what's wrong with reparations that have never been paid. 🤔


Not that wrong about what? The n*ggers part or the thieves part or being a bigger threat than Russia part? Not wrong about which thing exactly?


Says who? Any documents, legal cases, state-level agreements? Give me anything substantial, BB. Anything.

Both, I guess....

The Blacks also play the slavery and oppression and discrimination card whenever they can...they want preferred treatment and they got it for a long time...say the MAGA-supporter.

And right now Russians are alot less hostile and demanding towards Germany....only want that Germany pulls itself out from the western support of Ukraine!


What about, that the borders are legal and acknowledged?

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Whenever they can? Name me two or three cases when Poland played the "oppression and discrimination card". If we do it whenever we can, then surely you can find countless such examples. Are Greeks n*ggers too? They also demanded reparations from Germany didn't they?


Erm... does Tusk government demand anything from Germany?

Just saying that the reparations case has not been legally closed, and expecting to settle it in some way open for negotiations, is hardly a "hostile demand", is it? But they don't even do that! If we hear about it, it is either from the opposition or from the president (Kaczyński's "invention").


Well, yes - we have already established that, but the acknowledgement of borders never had anything to do with reparations. If it did - there would be documents saying so - like...

"We The Bundesrepublik Deutschland hereby acknowledge forever and ever Polish-German borders and in return Rzeczpospolita Polska agrees to never demand any reparations from us."

... or something along those lines, right?

Is there any such document?

Sorry Torq....but I'm bowing out here...that will lead to nothing more but more bad feelings on all sides!

Hm...

OK, but one thing that bothers me is that complete and stubborn refusal to even negotiate. Like, for example, agree to a lower (or much lower) sum, or exchange it for weapons deliveries etc. etc. Anything.

But no... there's just one stubborn refusal.

Suspicious...


Maybe Jews are n*ggers too. And the French... and any other country ever invaded that demanded reparations for losses? Maybe there are many more n*gger countries in the world than just African ones?

Interesting.

Maybe AfD will publish a book/booklet about n*ggers. I would buy it! :)

=They owe us too much.
-Think that they can get away with it.
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Why should we care for your delusions or propaganda that brainwashed you thus? We are talking about facts and reality, not the dreamy land of German myths.
Reparation is not like one side can decide not to pay, and the problem is solved; it's more like dealing with a divorce, you need at least to come to some settlement, not an arbitrary one-sided decision.
Funny thing, not once any you ask what those reparations are for. As you do not give an F at all.
I will answer that unasked question, for all the destruction and theft of the public and private property caused by the German state outside standard war operations.

Hello BB! How are you?


Proud Russian n*gger here!

We embrace our n*ggerdom.

First Vikings made us Scandinavian n*ggers.

Then Genghis Khan turned us into Mongol n*ggers.

Later, Turks would import millions of Russians to be n*ggers in the Ottoman Empire.

Eventually - all our former slave masters became our dogs, but that's a different story.