How are lesbians seen in Poland (more info inside)?

I am a lesbian who was born in Poland but moved with my parents and siblings to the US when I was 10. Since I came out to my parents their Catholic selves eventually accepted me through the years but they continued to tell me to stay in the closet from my family in Poland. I've spent all my summers in Poland (2 months) until after I graduated college and have been to visit there. As I was there I searched for the gay and lesbian culture but didn't quite know where to look and I wasn't about to ask my family so I always pretended to be straight. So, I am finally 29, living with my life partner of 3 years and we want to adopt (we live in Seattle which is very liberal and allows civil unions). I want to take her to see my country of birth and to finally come out to my family.

I read the news and know Poland isn't too gay friendly (coming out to my parents as a teen was a great example of that) but most news stories are also regarding gay men. I just wanted to get the perspective of Polish people since I can't talk to any of my family about this (my parents still think coming out in Poland is a bad idea).

How are lesbians treated there? When we visit, should we just pretend to be friends or could we walk down the streets holding hands (we'd be visiting Warszawa and Gdansk mostly)? I speak fluent Polish but have an accent (19 years in the US will do that to you) but my partner is American so I know we will be seen as American tourists first (which will be weird for me because I've never spoken English in Poland before). But how would lesbian tourists be perceived? Could we rent a hotel room together with one bed without a problem? And how do you think my family would respond, especially since I've pretty much hidden this part of myself for my entire life? I am so nervous planning this trip to Poland with my partner in the spring and any input would be appreciated.

Dziękuję bardzo!

You won't have any problem with a hotel in Warsaw, and as the capital it's fairly cosmopolitan. There are also bars, at least one of which is women only. I sometimes walk down the street hand-in-hand with my partner and the only rare adverse reaction has been off the same type of chav who would yell anywhere but isn't actually brave enough to do anything.

In Warsaw and Gdansk you'll be just fine.


Now that is harder to judge. Why not just introduce your partner to them and don't qualify or explain the relationship at all? Kind of "Uncle Jan, Auntie Gosia, this is Anna. Anna this is my uncle and my aunt." type deal.

Merged: How safe is Poland for ladies? What about prejudice against lesbians?

I'm considering moving to Poland for working reasons and I am trying to find out what it is like to be a lesbian there. My partner and I are very feminine so people just do not guess we are lesbians but on the other hand we are very open about our homosexuality and it has never caused us any problem in our country which is very open minded to the subject. I just do not want to have to go to the closed (which I probably wouldn't do) in other to be able to live in Poland.

What about safety for women in general? More specifically in big cities like Krakow, Warsaw etc.
Thank you.

There is no such a thing like corrective rape in Poland like they do in Africa to lesbian women, you should be very safe in Poland especially in the big cities you won't even get noticed.

What kind of safety are you concerned about ?
Those big stinky sweaty Polish men after work that fart and burp after a beer will have no interest in your kind.
They are looking for women that meet their needs.

In Warsaw you'll have no problems; it isn't an issue and there's a large and long-standing lgbt community. Kraków is more provincial but worth mentioning that it's a large university city and not unsophisticated. The difference between the capital and the countryside is larger in PL than you are probably used to, however a lesbian couple are so far outside most people's experience there that it's something they've just never thought of.

Poland has recently elected an openly gay city president (who is incredibly popular), there's a member of parliament who's a transwoman and the womens' movement is long established.

My partner and I have had very few problems over the years and none of them serious. You shouldn't worry.

Well you know Poland is a prodominately Catholic country which are bible believers.
The bible states clearly that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of heaven so most likely
the Polish people will be praying for your lost soul and feeling sorrow for you.

You won't, don't worry about it.


You're most probably safer here in Warsaw than you are in pretty much any big city in western Europe or North America.

I think so too. Crime rates (regarding womens' safety) are low and the people generally well mannered.


Most don't attend Church regularly or read religious texts - especially in cities - and in any case, people in PL (in Warsaw/Kraków anyway) are generally too classy to be openly judgemental about other people's personal lives. It isn't Alabama.

Thank you all for your replies!
Very helpful :)

Hey, jon, since you know nothing about women ... there are no "lesbians" - only ugly women no man wants. Tell me honestly, would you want to wake up to a face like the one in 189? Last guy that tried got PTSD.

Or women of all types who don't want men. With ones like you around, who would blame them.


Really?

Keep on trolling, it's fun to watch.

It's like saying that there are women who don't dream from childhood about a four-bedroom house in the suburbs, a white picket fence, two kids, a cuddly dog, a membership in a country club, a Jaguar, and a GQ guy pulling seven figures. Sure...When you find one, send her here.

No teen girl ever said: Mom, I want an ugly lesbian for Christmas!

They are busy planning their weddings with guys.

Novi, can you be even more clueless?


But there were ones that said I prefer girls mom.


Never, ever dreamt about a wedding, sorry to disappoint you. And I'm not even a lesbian.
And there are plenty that dream about other things that the ones you listed

There are there are of course millions of such women.

Some dream of being soldiers, scientists, cops, athletes or lorry drivers. And some of them achieve that.

With your salary from the troll farm I imagine you are quite a catch - any of the village girls who push the "coffee" cart through those gloomy corridors will be dreaming of a honeymoon with you - a 30 hour train ride to pick mushrooms in the grounds of a falling down sanitarium

Spot on! No man wants them so they try and become one.. The submissive 1/2 looks butchy as well. Or do they both think theyre men?

The only hot lesbians are in P0rnos ( paid) in reality they look like this!

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She's a lesbian:



Is she ugly? You think she would have a problem with finding a guy? lol

...and when they wake up they say: hey, stupid, cut the crap. I want a four-bedroom house in the suburbs, a white picket fence, two kids, a cuddly dog, a membership in a country club, a Jaguar, and a GQ guy pulling seven figures.


No. She is trying to be edgy enough to be on teevee. Or she is a LINO until she can get a four-bedroom house in the suburbs, a white picket fence, two kids, a cuddly dog, a membership in a country club, a Jaguar, and a GQ guy pulling seven figures.

To their credit, while in a purgatory waiting for a four-bedroom house in the suburbs, a white picket fence, two kids, a cuddly dog, a membership in a country club, a Jaguar, and a GQ guy pulling seven figures, they at least don't do what makes normal men throw up.

My unscientific survey shows that many men dream about threesomes with two "lesbians" but no normal woman dreams about joining two fags. Like I said, it's not scientific so your experience may be different.


They are so fu*cked in their heads that they don't know what they are. That's why sickos invented 70 additional "genders" - whatever that sh*it is.

There is always going to be a few exceptions but the vast majority of them are the diesel dyke mechanic type ...Haha

She looks Polish:)


And they want to teach it to kindergartner's...Im glad Desantis bannned this crap in Florida and wish they would do it here. Come November the tables will turn:)

They need to ban these weirdos from the military as well.

The pretty ones want to be edgy to get their 15 minutes of fame and the right to say I am bi. Before they go to bed, they pray:

Dear God, please let me one day have a four-bedroom house in the suburbs, a white picket fence, two kids, a cuddly dog, a membership in a country club, a Jaguar, and a GQ guy pulling seven figures. If possible, please delete all the crap I posted on Facebook about being a lesbian and bi.

Its mostly a fad and they grow out of it. However, the Democrats are willing to let little kids have sex changes. Make sure you vote this November.

We need to make "gender reassignment" sh*it a felony when approved and done to anyone under 18. Parents included.

From all the lesbians I lnow only one went to guys ( she had a relationship with a girl for about 4 years in her teenage/ early 20 ) and after that dates guys. 99% remained in relationships qith women.

Oh and either had problems finding a guy.
1- most had some relationship with guys before decided it's not for them
2- I saw guys trying to pick them up.

They can get that without a man.


A woman could be unlucky and end up with you instead.

Portia de Rossi didn't have to be "edgy" to be on TV - she gained popularity by playing a hot heterosexual lawyer on "Ally McBeal" TV series. She came out as a lesbian only after she got into a relationship with Ellen DeGeneres.


She's Czech :)

@Strzelec35, she's 30, so she's too old for you lol


How do you know? And how would you explain those "exceptions" - why do they exist?

And are gay men homosexual, according to you, because they're ugly and women didn't want them? lol

What about bisexual people of both sexes? How do you homophobes explain their existence? :D

'I can forgive lesbians but not gay men', says Lukashenko

youtu.be/P2XMe1hk-xg

Words of wisdom from Batko

Who would want or need his forgivness?

People all around world live their whole life qithout once worrying what he thinks of their lifestyles.

Mental problems seem to be the issue.

Why do so many straight women ( fag hags) want to hang around homos but aren't gay?

Does it make them feel safe to be around a man that wont try anything?