20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy!

75 bucks a night for a fleabag hotel x sex 12 times a month, = full rent paid.

Maybe Shawn, but full rent of what? Fleabag room? And what about eating? Cleaning? And loneliness when there is no girl on the horizon? I happened to rent a room or two, or even flat, now and then, but I cannot imagine why anyone would liked to live like that on the daily basis.

I know my parents never had the luxury of living with parents when they first got married. They lived in little flats above stores for the first years until kids came along, and as they worked and saved, they were able to afford better accomodations and eventually their own little bungalow (we moved in when I was 8). Years later, it was paid for. Along the way there were many lessons they learned (school of hard knocks), but they were independent and instilled independence in us kids. We learned that the choices you make in life have consequences from a personal, professional and financial perspectives. I lived alone for about 3 years in a nice little rented condo in a reasonable building before I met the better half, and we have moved on from there. Nobody picks up after me, I can do my own (and my wife's laundry). Independent living matures a person in so many ways.

It well could, but in many cases uncovers the vast unpreparedness for independent living. I saw many homes of such clueless young adults. You are really the exception.

ShawnH, I look at your post and I don't understad it. Cultural diferences? Maybe. Living in a condo all alone, when you don't have to? I don't see the point. Why make it harder for yourself? For the betterment of your character? Making yourself a better, self relient person? I can see that, but I could be not bothered. I see it as selfsacrifice. Noble couse, to be sure, but I am not all that noble... And not willing to be.

There is bathroom.

Maybe that is an indication of how parenting has changed over the years. From instilling independence and maturity to fostering friendships at the expense of independence and maturity...


Work was a part of it. I didn't want to do an hour commute to get to work. Price of gas would certainly offset the rental costs.


Possilby, but also the ability to live within my own rules, go about my schedule without regard for impacting others...


A skill that lasts a lifetime.....

Skill for a lifetime, eh..? A skill I was not bothered to acquire, then.

Well, maybe I am a spoiled brat. Once I was taken care by my parents. Now I am being taken care by my wife. I just give money and live along. Drink beer, read books, play copmuter games and troll internet forums. And don't see a reason to change my evil ways. Maybe I am a bad person. But I still dont see why your way, ShawnH, it the better one. Is it?

Not necessarily better, just different. I feel ok about myself too.

Well Shawn, I take my father's hat off my head (decorated with a sea shells, no less) and bow my head to you. Let's the Force be with you (Niech Moc będzie z tobą). Cheers.

Ohh yeh there great for dirty dirt bags, but what about the nice girl that you want to impress, "hey come back to my mum and dads house"?? what kind of message does that send out - basically "i cant afford one of my own and my mummy still washes and cooks for me".


Somebodys telling porky pies me think.

Man, I have those fantasies sometimes...Usually happens waking up after a hard weekend...

My mother is a two-faced, bearded hag.. I'm glad I don't live with her anymore.

Did you check out the wifes mother before you did the voul thing?

When my brother was moving out from home our parents told him that he's stupid. Additionally my parents had some financial difficulties at the time so even our grandma said that he should say in home and support parents (why waste money for rent).

So why the hell OP is accusing young people of being lazy, immature etc? Believe me no one likes to live with parents

Yeah.. she's holding up all right, got some f*ucked up 80's hair though. What about yours? You have to watch Polish women, one day you're married to some smoking babe and the next day you're married to the sea hag or something. Not as bad as Asians though, but then Asian women aren't as mouthy either.

Anyway.. about my mother .. she was critical all the time, I don't miss her. I remember like yesterday she comes over to my first place after college. An amazing sh*t hole. She comes over .. beer cans all over the place.. a dude passed out in the bushes, only his leg was sticking out.. bawww hawww. The look on her face was utter revulsion.

LOL, that's instant eviction in most cases here :)

Living in a multi-generational family (unless incest is invovled) is much different than illicit cohabition by unmarried coupes or flagrant living in sin. That is how anyone who's not a phony, lapsed or cafeteria Catholic evaluates such shacking-up.

Holly molly, Polonius, are you living in a bubble?

Who said anything about illicit, Pol3? I was talking about people that cohabit until they feel that the time is right to tie the knot. I did it for a long time and it worked well. Why are you so judgemental? It doesn't always come back to being Catholic either, btw. My wife isn't a Catholic but societal pressure played its part. Life isn't black&white, Pol3.

In the United States, over 60% of college students move back in their folks, after they graduate from college. Possibly, a result of large unemployment rate. Along with huge debt owed, including student loans.

About 80% of 29 year old males in Italy live at home. There is a term for them in Italian - mammoni. They just can't afford rent. The number of mammoni around the developed countries will only increase. Economy is in complete shambles and it's only going to get worse.

Many young adults are moving back to mom and dad. Either lower wages or unemployment are forcing them to do that. Welcome to Europe in America. Soon we'll have three generations living in a small 900 sq feet apartments.

Wroclaw Boy:


I really don't mean to be nosy here, but you lived in Poland, moved to the U.K. for like.....6 days.....and now you live in Poland again....and your parents followed you here and live with you now....in Poland?

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and that's the only way you know how to live. your parents know it as well as your wife.

As I said, there are cafeteria Catholics and other Christians (probably Jews, Musluims et al) who pick and choose from their relgious faith only that which is easy, pleasant and convenient... I have never for a moment doubted that such people exist. I have also not heard so far that the 6th Commandment has been repealed. The numbering may be different for Protestants but neither has your religon revoked it, has it?

Pol3, please stop sidetracking with religious stuff. This thread is not for that. Poles perhaps go for closeness because they know that rolling the dice and going abroad necessarily involves fragmentation so they want to keep things tight-knit here. They are like the Borg in that way. They leave for the UK but most of the time spend dreaming about being back with family.

Don't Catholics use idols and images of god all the time? Sistine Chapel ceiling comes into mind. You can't be a cafeteria Catholic Polonius!

I'm surprised the rate isn't higher. Birds of a feather flock together and like attracts like. Closeters like to be in amongst other closeters in this Us Vs Them world that is emerging. Those that love others that have the same label yet don't question.

Also, as more and more Poles return to Poland with their set-up capital, they will need a temporary place to stay before getting the ball rolling.

Merged thread:
Are polish men all mummy's boys?

My wife thinks so. That is why she married me :)

Any opinions

What does it make you than? She just wants to mold you all by herself, influenced by your wife/ mother not much of a difference is it? My guess, pantoflarz. What can I say, I stand by my statement, you already succumbed to her opinion as you have not stated your own.