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Do you think that Polish people are rude?


SeanBM 35 | 5,797
18 Jan 2010 #451
Thank you for talking down to me, as you have superior intelligence than most, it must be very tiring. And again my thanks.
pirate - | 22
18 Jan 2010 #452
How exactly is that talking down to you?
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
18 Jan 2010 #453
Explaining what you have already written. I understood it the first time, I even posted the commercial because it seemed you were unaware of it and then you explained what you had already said.

By the way in what part of England (you are English aren't you?) is it considered polite to go onto a public forum complaining that your Polish girlfriend and her kids have no manners and then jump to the conclusion that all Polish people have no manners?
pirate - | 22
18 Jan 2010 #454
So why the "I hope you are rich" comment?

I had seen the commercial, which I found mildly amusing and certainly nothing to complain about.

As I stated earlier, my opinion (which I am free to state - this being a country that believes in free speach) is based on my experiences. It might not be an accurate representation of a whole nation of people but neverless it is based upon my experiences.

Surely a more constructive stance from Poles would feel they are not rude would be stating something along the lines of "you're right, that was rude" or "we aren't all like that" or to explain your culture in some way? Instead of jumping up and down feeling vitimized or abusing me and questioning my level of eduation.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
18 Jan 2010 #455
So why the "I hope you are rich" comment?

A joke, I feel silly having to say that to you but there you have it.

I had seen the commercial, which I found mildly amusing and certainly nothing to complain about.

So what?

which I am free to state - this being a country that believes in free speach

Included in that freedom of speech is the right for your Polish girlfriend and her kids not to say ''thank you''.

Surely a more constructive stance from Poles would feel they are not rude would be stating something along the lines of "you're right, that was rude" or "we aren't all like that" or to explain your culture in some way?

You assume too much, I am not a Pole.

Instead of jumping up and down feeling vitimized or abusing me and questioning my level of eduation.

Again that post about statistics was meant as a joke.

Listen you have been reading these comments and taking offence, I think practically all of them were in jest. You are new to this forum and probably have not noticed that this is page 12 of this thread (it's long) so when someone again comes on here complaining, I just joke with them.
Nika 2 | 507
19 Jan 2010 #456
Absolutely. My girlfriend is Polish and she and her kids are completely lacking in basic manners, for instance if we are invited out for a meal they simply eat and leave. No thank you's, no see you soon, they just feed their faces, invariably turning their noses up at anything which isn't meat or potato, and leave.

congratulations pirate for assuming that if your gf and her kids lack in basic manners, than the entire PL nation lack in it as well.
Honest George 1 | 105
19 Jan 2010 #457
The modern generation of Polish people are unfortunately rude and without manners.

My personal opinion and I don,t care if it offends anyone.

*waiting for the knives*

" Et tu Bruti " ?
Nika 2 | 507
19 Jan 2010 #458
The modern generation of Polish people are unfortunately rude and without manners.

the modern generation of people anywhere are rude and without manners.
1jola 14 | 1,879
19 Jan 2010 #459
Absolutely. My girlfriend is Polish and she and her kids are completely lacking in basic manners, for instance if we are invited out for a meal they simply eat and leave. No thank you's, no see you soon, they just feed their faces, invariably turning their noses up at anything which isn't meat or potato, and leave.

I'm amazed that you would want to be with someone who is not brought up to say thank you after wolfing their steak and fries. When I am finished with scanning the physical valors of a woman, the next step is to converse with her to see if she is polite, intelligent, tactful, and if she picks her nose, slurps her soup, wipes her mouth with her sleeve, I think you get the idea. I hope you will understand when she or her kids demand money from you, because that will come next.

You, having travelled widely should know that in Europe anyone, regardless of which country thay come from, who doesn't know the word 'thank you' is a brute that should be circled widely.
pirate - | 22
19 Jan 2010 #460
You, having travelled widely should know that in Europe anyone, regardless of which country thay come from, who doesn't know the word 'thank you' is a brute that should be circled widely.

To be honest, this is why I posted.

I wanted feed back from Polish members as to whether or not this was normal Polish behaviour, which is what she explains it as.

Apart from a stay in Wroclaw about 7 years ago (apparently there was a fair amount of trouble in the city with stag parties and drunk Brits) I've found Polish people polite and friendly enough on a casual basis.
Nika 2 | 507
19 Jan 2010 #461
When I am finished with scanning the physical valors of a woman,

1jola a ja cały czas myślałam, że ty jesteś kobietą! :)

I wanted feed back from Polish members as to whether or not this was normal Polish behaviour, which is what she explains it as.

I wouldn't call it a normal Polish behaviour. She's definitely not a well-educated person. How about her family, are they the same (I'm guessing they are)?
1jola 14 | 1,879
19 Jan 2010 #462
I wanted feed back from Polish members as to whether or not this was normal Polish behaviour, which is what she explains it as.

Please. Let's not be ridiculous. But I have a complaint of my own. I am Polish so you know. I open doors for men or women when they are behind me coming in. This is a given for me and I was taught that way and I will not change. Men say thanks, but many women don't and plow through as if I was a porter. I don't like that, but what really burns me is when young women or girls think it is their right to be served. I feel obligated to give them a lesson in courtessy, as you should give your girlfriend and especilly the kids one.

1jola a ja cały czas myślałam, że ty jesteś kobietą! :)

I know. On the internet I can even Queen Jola. I reserve that right:) I am one mouthy chick, ain't I?
pirate - | 22
19 Jan 2010 #463
I wouldn't call it a normal Polish behaviour. She's definitely not a well-educated person. How about her family, are they the same (I'm guessing they are)?

She really well educated, currently studying for a doctorate.

Family - mum and dad, sister, brother seem ok - but obviously not spent as much time with them.

Kids - IMHO - are monsters and very rude

This is described as normal polish behaviour and i am getting offended because of cultural differences.

In reality, I think she left home when she was young, raised the kids on her own, so she was basically a kid raising kids, so no adult values to pass down to them as she had none.
Nika 2 | 507
19 Jan 2010 #464
She really well educated, currently studying for a doctorate.

That's not the kind of eduction I meant.
I wanted to say źle wychowana, anybody can translate, pls?

I think she left home when she was young, raised the kids on her own, so she was basically a kid raising kids, so no adult values to pass down to them as she had none.

still, that doesn't excuse her.
pirate - | 22
19 Jan 2010 #465
I am Polish so you know.

i know that Mr Hussar!! - and it was chinese not steak and chips - my sincere thanks for your feed back it's been really helpful - I was beginning to doubt my gut feeling on the situation.
Honest George 1 | 105
19 Jan 2010 #466
the modern generation of people anywhere are rude and without manners.

Not so, I speak of the majority.
Nika 2 | 507
19 Jan 2010 #467
I speak of the majority.

so do I.
Honest George 1 | 105
19 Jan 2010 #468
I take it that you are a much traveled person then ?
jonni 16 | 2,481
19 Jan 2010 #469
źle wychowana

Badly brought up.

pirate

Maybe she's just rude, or on the other hand maybe she and her kids have never been taken to a restaurant or eaten outside the home and are outside their cofort zone?
Honest George 1 | 105
19 Jan 2010 #470
Senior members of society have been complaining about the manners of youth
not being up to their standards ever since the beginning of civilization.

I,m not talking about " young people ". I said " modern generation ", and we my friend, fall into that category.
Torq
20 Jan 2010 #471
Well, I'm truly sorry that you got the impression that Polish people are rude
and I'd be even more sorry if you told me that you were somehow offended
by poor manners of my compatriots during your visit to Poland.

However, having visited most European countries, I must honestly say that
I didn't notice any terrible difference between the manners of Poles and that
of people in those countries. Or maybe I didn't stay there for long enough to
notice more profound differences.
1jola 14 | 1,879
20 Jan 2010 #472
I was beginning to doubt my gut feeling on the situation.

My mom came to visit me in the States one time and a friend of mine came over with a pizza. While we talked, he ate the whole thing without offering us any, and then left. When he did, we burst out laughing. No words were necessary.

Typical American behavior? Please, certainly not.

Just an observation. In Warsaw, when I go to see a play, I see some women who think they are royalty, and if the man they are with is not quick enough, he will be picking up her fur(sic) of the floor. They don't say thank you to anybody. They are also in the gross minority.
Honest George 1 | 105
20 Jan 2010 #473
Torq

I am neither a liar or a fight picker, but I too am a well traveled person. I like to put issues across honestly and without bias.

If you also post by these principles, then I accept your opinion, and we beg to differ.
( stalemate )
But I think I detect a little bias on your part ?
1jola 14 | 1,879
20 Jan 2010 #474
I like to put issues across honestly and without bias.

Is that why thay call you Honest George? I'm not picking a fight with you either, I was just wondering.
Torq
20 Jan 2010 #475
I am neither a liar or a fight picker (...) I like to put issues
across honestly and without bias.

You do sound like an honest man. Fair play to you.

I think I detect a little bias on your part ?

Well, who knows, maybe I can't be fully objective about my own country and maybe
we are indeed rude people? Maybe I simply don't see it as clearly as an objective
outside observer like you, Geroge? Quite possible.

I would very much like to continue this conversation, as I find your opinions to be
very valuable and interesting; unfortunately - I have to get up early tomorrow, so
allow me to rudely wish you a good night and, in my rough, coarse Polish way, say
"Dobranoc!".
1jola 14 | 1,879
20 Jan 2010 #477
Well, who knows, maybe I can't be fully objective about my own country and maybe
we are indeed rude people? Maybe I simply don't see it as clearly as an objective
outside observer like you, Geroge? Quite possible.

Better yet, ask George if he has a habit of giving up his seat on a bus or subway for a woman? If he is a typical Brit, he sits there like statue. Yes, British people are rude.
skysoulmate 13 | 1,276
20 Jan 2010 #478
I wanted feed back from Polish members as to whether or not this was normal Polish behaviour, which is what she explains

Pirate, I think your experience with Polish people is an exception to the rule. However, not just with Polish people... I've always heard Thank You after a meal in the US, or a Merci in France and Quebec, Gracias in Mexico and Costa Rica, Xie Xie in China and Spaciba in Russia. Most people are polite by nature but every now and then you run into the brutes of the world. Sounds like you drew the short stick there, sorry about that.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
20 Jan 2010 #479
As regards saying "thank you" after food, I have noticed, what I consider unusual (for me) behaviour here in Poland.
If I am eating in a public open space fast food restaurant, at the same table as someone else who is completely unknown to me and have never even exchanged words with.

As they finish and get up to leave they thank me (in Polish, of course).
I asked some people here why they do it, as it is not done in Ireland like that and I was informed that they were just thanking me for having eaten with them.

Apart from gross generalisations, I also think that cultural differences are at play here.
Some of you have been saying how well travelled you are and are implying that you know what is common courtesy and what is not. I would suggest reconsidering what you think you know and open up to different possibilities.
1jola 14 | 1,879
20 Jan 2010 #480
I asked some people here why they do it, as it is not done in Ireland like that and I was informed that they were just thanking me for having eaten with them.

Exactly, Sean. We say thank you for the company they have kept us, even if we didn't converse.

Some of you have been saying how well travelled you are and are implying that you know what is common courtesy and what is not.

Travelling is not enough. You only get glimpses of life which you often don't understand. You must live in a certain place, often for a long time, before you can understand things. So tell me. When an old man is trying to give up his seat to me on a bus in Beijing, is he being polite or was he told to be nice to foreigners who came for the Olympics? Is a French waiter rude when he asks "What do you want" or he doesn't know the polite form? If I open the door for a Canadian woman, am I polite or I think she is just a weak woman?

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