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claire180380 - | 1
2 Nov 2010 #61
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cigarettes in poland

Can anyone tell me if you can buy lambert and butler gold (lights) in krakow?
jonni 16 | 2,482
2 Nov 2010 #62
Can anyone tell me if you can buy lambert and butler gold (lights) in krakow?

You can in Warsaw, at the central station. Might be the same in Krakow.
wildrover 98 | 4,441
2 Nov 2010 #63
As a matter of interest...if you go to Ukraine , you can only bring two packets of cigs back into Poland....Thats not two boxes of 200 , its two packs of twenty...a grand total of 40 cigs....

When the Polish customs man asked me if i had any cigs , i was quite happy to tell him i had a carton of 200 , and he was quite happy to tell me it wasn,t allowed...!

He did let me keep em though....
tango - | 2
7 Feb 2011 #64
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price of cigarettes

can any one help with the price of cigarettes in poland also can you buy jps black. thank you
Wroclaw Boy
7 Feb 2011 #65
L&M red 10.20 PLN Nevada Reds 9.00 PLN, Marlboro lights just over 11.00 PLN.

can you buy jps black.

no
jonni 16 | 2,482
7 Feb 2011 #66
One or two places under the station in Warsaw used to have them sometimes - don't know if they still do.

The best place is in the furthest north-east undergound corridor, close to the entrance from ul Emilii Plater near the corner of Złoty Taras. They specialise in cheap cigarettes & tobacco and often have unexpected UK brands. There's occasionally a queue of people buying in bulk.
tango - | 2
7 Feb 2011 #67
what about lambert & butler
Bluejuliette - | 1
9 Feb 2011 #68
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Price of tobacco in Poland 2011?

I am visiting Krakow in April and my daughter wants me to bring some tobacco back for her. Can anyone tell me the approximate price of tobacco in Poland? I believe they sell Golden Virginia but does anyone know if Cutters Choice is available? Do they have tobacconists or do I buy from a supermarket (if both, which is cheaper?)

Many thanks.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
9 Feb 2011 #69
Hello Bluejuliette,

And welcome to the Polish forums.

You can use the search box in the top right hand corner of this page to search key words like "cig" and here for Price of cigarettes in Poland?
rybnik 18 | 1,454
19 Feb 2011 #70
Good business if anyone wants to get into it, although the 24 hr bus journey is a nightmare

How many cartons(sleeves) could you fit in your suitcase?
jonni 16 | 2,482
19 Feb 2011 #72
I am visiting Krakow in April and my daughter wants me to bring some tobacco back for her.

Bring her some nicorette patches, if you don't want your daughter to die a painful and prolonged death from cancer. You don't say how old she is, but if she's still smoking in her 40s, she'll really begin to feel it. Do her a favour and get her a different present. There's a reason for those messages printed on the side of cig packets.

Having said that, supermarkets are usually a bit cheaper than tobacconists, but for rolling tobacco, you should go to a kiosk since many supermarkets don't stock it (ciga are so cheap that almost nobody rolls). Station kiosks are a good bet. Cutter's choice is rare but you can sometimes find it. Other brands are easier to find. There's a strict limit to what you can bring back, though personally I've never been stopped.

There's usually at least one place in each big town where you can buy tobacco in bulk.

hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/arrivingeu.htm
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
19 Feb 2011 #73
To the uk 200 per person,so if you need cheap Cigarettes the best idea is to send a football team!

Bollocks

According to EU law you are able to carry as many as you want for personal use and gifts. Best of all the UKBA have no right to stop you and if they do you are not oblighed to cooperate with them. The only time they are allowed to stop anyone is if thye suspect that cigs are being sold, and must tell u if this is the case and thye have to prove it before they detain you. This guy has proven this:

nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com

He is very helpful so if u need more info, drop him a line
jonni 16 | 2,482
19 Feb 2011 #74
nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com

Thanks - that's an interesting site!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Feb 2011 #75
Best of all the UKBA have no right to stop you and if they do you are not oblighed to cooperate with them. The only time they are allowed to stop anyone is if thye suspect that cigs are being sold, and must tell u if this is the case and thye have to prove it before they detain you. This guy has proven this:

That guy has proven nothing.

UKBA are a force onto themselves - and when you look at the powers that they do have on behalf of HMRC, it's really not hard to see how they can make someone crack. People might talk the good fight, but the second that they're in a room with an UKBA officer, who is pointing out exactly what the law says in regards to potential punishments - they're going to break sooner rather than later.

Take a look here -
inbrief.co.uk/regulations/importing-tobacco-from-eu.htm

However the Courts have ruled that that those who bring in large quantities of tobacco must be ready to provide a satisfactory explanation, the absence of which may cause Customs Officials to conclude that the items are not for personal use, but for some commercial purpose.

As far as English law goes, the principle is well established that anyone going over the guidelines set must be able to prove to the Customs officers that it's for personal use only. The definition of "satisfactory explanation" is about as vague as it gets - really, who do you think the courts are going to side with when it comes to a seizure?

You can quote rights and laws until the cows come home - but the reality of the situation is that anyone stopped with more than 3200 cigarettes is going to have a hell of a job explaning just why they need so many. HMRC point blank refuse to endorse any importation in advance - which just adds to the complexity of the situation.

He's also making one huge mistake on that website. He claims that there are NO LIMITS - then goes on to talk about what you can bring back from Belgium. In regards to Belgium->UK, you can take 3200 - we know this. But. France has been seizing cigarettes for years from people doing the Adinkerke run - and anyone who knows anything about French justice knows that there's not a hope in hell of a Brit obtaining a favourable judgment from a French court.

Take a look at his second post here - nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com
- he makes it clear that the UKBA officer has discretion. No amount of screaming or shouting about EU rights is going to help when you're reminded that you risk a criminal record over a few cigarettes - and the vast majority of people simply aren't going to risk it.

The only sensible advice to give is to avoid the hassle and take 3200 and no more. Even if the law is technically on your side (though untested - and I doubt the average cigarette runner has the money to force a judical review) - what are you going to achieve but aggarvation when trying to deal with HMRC and UKBA? I certainly wouldn't want to be at the mercy of the courts when dealing with a case when "honest uniformed officers just trying to do the best they can" come up against someone who was spending money abroad to avoid UK taxes.
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
19 Feb 2011 #76
UKBA are a force onto themselves - and when you look at the powers that they do have on behalf of HMRC, it's really not hard to see how they can make someone crack. People might talk the good fight, but the second that they're in a room with an UKBA officer, who is pointing out exactly what the law says in regards to potential punishments - they're going to break sooner rather than later.

He has proven that if you stand your ground then in fact they cant do anything until they can prove it is for commercial puposes. How can they prove this??? The UKBA work on scare tactics, they believe the uniform is enough to make u give them ur fags. They also have no power to detain until you have commited a crime and cannot ask the police to dtain you until a crime has been committed and they can prove it. Look at the immigration act of 71 (i think). Also they are not allowed to do random stops of people crossing the border unless they have proof that a crime has been committed. A tip off is not even enough legal proof.

WHat he is showing on his site and his you tube videos is that he knows the law better than the UKBA officers and he really shows them up at one point.

A gift loist is a good way of proving that the fags are not for commercial use
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Feb 2011 #77
If you stand your ground, that is. How many people will stand their ground when there's a couple of blokes in uniform, reminding them that if they get taken to court and found guilty, they've got a criminal record for smuggling on their record? That kind of thing would pretty much make you persona non grata when it comes to CRB-checked jobs - who's going to employ someone that was busted for smuggling cigarettes?

The whole thing does work on scare tactics, I agree - and not many people are tough enough to be prepared to sit it out. People will sign anything under pressure - if they're handed a statement after 4 hours of questioning and told to sign it and they can go, what are they gonna do?

A gift loist is a good way of proving that the fags are not for commercial use

The problem with this approach is that if UKBA say "really? what's their phone number?" - you need everyone on the list to cooperate with you as well. And then there's the rest of it - if you're on benefits and buying five hundred quid's worth of cigarettes, the first thing they're going to do is question where you've got the money from.

Customs in the UK have been getting away with murder for years - it's not going to stop now. If someone tries to argue the toss and quote the law at them, they're just going to close ranks, seize the cigarettes and leave it to the appeal process. When was the last time you heard of someone in UKBA being sacked for making the wrong decision?
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
20 Feb 2011 #78
The whole thing does work on scare tactics, I agree - and not many people are tough enough to be prepared to sit it out. People will sign anything under pressure - if they're handed a statement after 4 hours of questioning and told to sign it and they can go, what are they gonna do?

Thts the thing they cant keep u there for 4 hours. They cant handcuff or detain you in any way shape or form.

I believe it is our responsibility to exercise our rights and even if it does take a lil longer than ususl then at least we are standing up for what is right
Harry
20 Feb 2011 #79
A tip off is not even enough legal proof.

Yes, they can not take your fags off you. But they can completely legally stick probes up your arse and inspect what you have under your foreskin.

While I like a tab as much as the next man (even assuming that the next man is Georgie Best), when it comes to a choice between keeping three thousand SuperKings and having my arsehole the way it was that time the chicken Madras at Ganesh was really not on form, just pass me the nicotine chewing gum.
welshguyinpola 23 | 463
20 Feb 2011 #80
They cant touch u until they have proved that uve done sth wrong. If they do, its assault.
jonni 16 | 2,482
20 Feb 2011 #81
But they can completely legally stick probes up your arse and inspect what you have under your foreskin.

I know soooo many people who'd be well up for that.
Polonius3 994 | 12,367
20 Feb 2011 #82
Last Christmas Viceroys were 7.90 zł a packet at Carrefour.
BTW, do any Poles roll theri own (not MaryJane, but cigarettes)? Is loose tobacco even available? If so, is that a big savings? In the US favourites are Bugler, Top and Target -- all with gummed papers.
jonni 16 | 2,482
20 Feb 2011 #83
do any Poles roll theri own

Not really.

Is loose tobacco even available?

Yes.

Both questions were answered in this thread, a few inches ago.
Harry
20 Feb 2011 #84
They cant touch u until they have proved that uve done sth wrong. If they do, its assault.

I take it that you didn't go to uni in port town. Do not fucck with customs: they can check up your arsehole just because they want to. All you can do about it is refuse and then all that happens is that you get locked up until you appear before a magistrate, and then they check up your arse.

FYI: yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/privacy/searches-by-customs-and-excise-officials.html
But good fuccking luck with the "Making a complaint" bit.

With this said, I've always found UK customs officers to be very fair. Be honest and don't take the p1ss and you're fine. Get clever and you'll be sitting down funny for weeks.

I know soooo many people who'd be well up for that.

And no doubt some of them would even stick a few fags up there too.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379
20 Feb 2011 #85
Last Christmas Viceroys were 7.90 zł a packet at Carrefour.

9.20zl now
micktransit 1 | 2
20 Feb 2011 #86
No offence to anyone but most of you are quoting heresay and not facts.

The website nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com
not only gives the youtube audio of standing up to UKBA Customs (which was done to show that UKBA don't have the powers that people think they do) but gives detailed, documented and factual advice on what to do if you are interviewed by UKBA when and if stopped.

lt also gives factual and documented actual incidents of bringing through as much as you like for personal use. The most recent one being 27 kg of tobacco brought in through Hull P&O Port from Belgium for one person. Thats 54 boxes of 10 x 50g.

lf you believe hearsay all you are doing is the UKBA Customs job for them ... and they are not even paying you to do it!

You can bring as much as you like back for personal use or gifts ... fact! All you have to do is be prepared and do your homework before you travel ... and carry a digital dictaphone or similar at all times for your own protection!

You can either stand up to UKBA and exercise your legal rights ... or you can be a mere slave and do whatever they say.
Your choice, your freedom ... use it or give it away.

I take it that you didn't go to uni in port town.

Harry, that is absolute garbage. The laws that UKBA work under are Civil and not Criminal therefore there is no question whatsoever of being arrested. lt's Civil because the excise goods are in question and not yourself. An inanimate legal object cannot commit a criminal offence.

Drugs are another matter because the drugs themselves are illegal. A personal intimate search has to be sanctioned by a Senior Officer and then that would involve PACE and so criminal legislation comes into effect. They have to have a legally justifiable reason for the search which also gives you the right of a duty solicitor. Such are the ramifications to the UKBA of getting this wrong that they don't use it on a mere whim or spite. They are very loathe to do it.

So, please don't frighten people with of tales of arrest and body searches regarding excise goods ... it's totally untrue.

As for your advice 'don't fu#k with customs', the correct advice is 'don't let customs fu#k with you'.
Cardno85 31 | 976
20 Feb 2011 #87
Fair enough, stand up for your rights, try what this website says...

For one, when travelling, I prefer to get from A to B with as little hassle as possible so I will be taking as much as the airport says I can take and not a single cigarette more. I might be doing their job for them, but I'd rather not spend even 5 minutes more in an airport than I have to.
micktransit 1 | 2
20 Feb 2011 #88
l must warn you that taking the amount that the airport says does not guarantee you safe passage through UKBA Customs, in fact far from it. The guidelines from UKBA are simply guidelines and nothing more. UKBA guidelines do NOT say you CAN bring that amount in, it actually says that you MAY bring that amount in. UKBA can still stop and question you even though you adhere to their guidlines. They can and still do confiscate not only the guideline amounts but below the guidelines too!

Do your homework and be prepared.

As for the airports, if they are using the correct UKBA guidelines, it should say 3200 (16 cartons and 3kg tobacco). Not all airports show the correct information and some were still trying to impose the 200 cigarette limit. Such as Sofia, Bulgaria. See

sofiaecho.com/2011/01/21/1028634_know-your-rights
... that was down totally to
nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com
taking on the British Embassy in Sofia and the Bulgarian Customs.
Declan1473 - | 2
1 May 2011 #89
Merged thread:
Price Of Cigarettes in Wroclaw

Hi I am travelling to Wroclaw in june and wanted to know if any one can give me an up to date price of cigarettes, I smoke Marlbororo's

Thanks Declan
convex 20 | 3,930
1 May 2011 #90
11.20zl for a pack of Marlboros


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