Is it possible to earn honestly some greater fortune in the present day Poland?

Is it possible to earn honestly some greater fortune in the present day Poland. In the times of PRL ( Polish People's Republic ) it was unfortunately impossible.

I would say yes. If you work hard, it is possible.

However, other people might disagree. So, we should establish two factors first.

Earn - within what period of time??? One year or life???

Fortune - what do we mean by fortune coz everybody may have different ideas at different stages of life. A mature person`s fortune isn`t a student`s fortune, definitely.

Yes it is - but expect PiS to take a huge lump of your cash and shovel it into the hands of their voters, plus some into their own koryta

Yes , the question is, what is a fortune?
Is 1 mln PLN a fortune or not. Perhaps you must have today at least 1 mln € or 10 or 100 mln € to be rich. I really don't know.

Yes,and also during those times people in fact made more money if you take the'honestly' part out.


Nope,working hard dont make money,you can slog for slave labor doing 2 jobs and make what 7/8k zlots,one needs brains with hard work to make good money.Until like some brit sh.it English teachers who come to Poland and live a cheap high life claiming to make money lol.


People who will disagree are dumb fu.cks brainless workers.I always said that Poland has more opportunities as in the west there are people from all over the world trying to compete,one has to be real smart to make something there.In Poland all you have to do is compete with Poles who still are learning how to do business esp if you can speak the language.I personally know Poles,Dutch,Russian and Armenian people who make over 2/3 mil USD a year in Poland doing legit business who are in there 30s/40s and 60s.

@Alien,about good fortune,I myself am looking the answer to that question.Everytime I try and I meet someone who is making more or has more.I guess the true answer will be where one is comfortable,If you find the answer please let me know too.

Of course, I mentally included brains in it but didn`t write it coz I thought it was obvious.


Within 1 year? Yes.
Within 10 years? Not so much.

@pawian ; 1 mln PLN....
I mean accumulated assets as a house, cash and others.

@Alien
Currency is merely a tool, having tons of shining metals in bars at your disposal or locked gives you a false sense fortune due to many other people wants of possessing it mainly due to it's esthetical, hard to obtain and social status giving nature.

(Which is why many new rich people like to wear gold chains and overdo it as to show they have a lot of it and obtained it)

Truly, a rich man is very poor. As he knows not of love. Otherwise his need for material riches would been truly gone and not accumulated to insane proportions.

The world has it's rules, being chained to it, and following it. Is not freedom, it's slavery.

For many money is freedom, but truly it is not. It's just a tool that people idolise too much.

Yes, but first you need to earn it. If you earn 1 million within a year and buy a house, then it is a good result.


An ex student of mine scored such an achievement about 10 years ago.

If we are talking about 1m zloty in assets, including a house then I think several million Poles have that - lots were able to acquire their house in the early 90s.

If you were to raise it to 2m zloty - say 400k EUR then I think a much smaller number - about 300.000 or 1 percent of the population and maybe half able to acquire that honestly

@cms neuf
You got to be joking #10
:O

No - just my personal opinion :)

@cms neuf
@Kashub1410
There are 72% of all Poles who have own hause/flat without mortgage and only 4 % Swiss.

@Alien
I guess I will have to get one soon aswell. Don't wanna be left behind!

@Kashub1410
You are welcome.🏡

He found a job at an insurance company. He was a sales rep who visited companies and talked managers or owners into buying life policies. He was excellent in it - persistent, intrusive, obstinate. When they threw him out through the door, he returned through the proverbial window on the next day. After a year he bought himself an apartment coz his commission earnings had been so high.

Apart from persistence, a very intelligent student. He hadn`t had English in the previous school and learnt it from scratch in my class. After 4 years he was proficient enough to do well in an advanced exam. Amasing!

@pawian
An intelligent young man.

I deem you perfectly realise I take a little pride in enabling that student to develop his intellect and talent even further.

Yes, a good teacher is half the win in life.

Yes, I envy my students so much. They were so lucky to be bestowed the chance of meeting my on their life`s path. Amasing.

@pawian
It is a bit like by Novichok. Are you a genius too?

Poor Polish billionaires, last year, for the first time in 14 years, the value of the assets of the 100 richest Poles fell. Oh, poor people.

As in much of the Black Market, nearly all was "possible", as long as one was not averse to the usual bribery path of smoothing the way with the respective authorities, including of course, the Church!

Little has changed, I'm sure, if at all. Much the same actually right here in the States in terms of securing (not merely gettting) a more than decently paying job, let alone amassing tremendous wealth.

Can't speak for every country. However, what has worked for centuries in places such as China, Russia, Italy or Latin America, seems to function just as easily here in the US.

Only difference here is that the Rule of Law is more superficially in force than it is in certain other societies.

@Lyzko
Americans were living their "American Dream". This thread is about whether Poles can also experience their "Polish Dream" in Poland without having to leave the country and with legal methods thanks to their hard work?

And all I'm saying is that while it certainly is possible, don't delude yourself into thinking that in a majority of instances, the ever present role of the Black Market doesn't play some part in acquiring wealth capitalist style.

Everybody knows about "lapowki", but nobody talks about it in public.

Yes,in fact there are more opportunities in Poland than in the US in business.In US one has to compete with people from all over the world but in Poland its an open field.Poles are still learning to do business.

I should talk to Paulina about going partners for manufacturing screens for windows in Poland.
I could engineer the screens with my genius engineering capabilities while Paulina could do sales and service with her Polish genius capabilities.
We could have a multimillion dollar business in a short time. ;-)

Opportunities always abound...if one is willing to pull strings!

@johnny reb
My uncle actually has connections and earned a good living from it in Poland. You got anything good, I can pass it on to him if you are interested

Regarding computer screens

No, no.
Paulina was talking about screens for the windows on her home to keep the insects and critters outside.
You misunderstood.
I understand that they are hard to come by in Poland, so the demand is there.