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Who is poor in Poland?


southern 74 | 7,074
7 Jun 2011 #571
Belarus is tightly connected to the balls of Lukashenko.When the balls shake there is earthquake.
Havok 10 | 903
7 Jun 2011 #572
So I guess the best possible option for Polish people is to realize that everyone in the West is poor as well. Let’s do nothing and wait for more EU loans, donate our money and build more giant statues of Jesus while our universities and schools crumble…

Let’s argue with everyone who disagrees and then scream at the top of our lungs, we will bury you Havok, you fat mouth American!!!

Let’s post photos of our refrigerators on PF for everyone to see. As a matter of fact let’s organize a parade of refrigerators in town square to prove our point!

Ha! let’s ship all of those western traitors and plastic poles for voicing their opinion to Belarus to teach them a lesson. Our version of the truth is the correct one; never mind those millions of crazy westerners in GB looking at us and scratching their heads in disbelieve. See, they scratch themselves because they're in debt, all poor and have flees, that’s right.

Problem solved we’ve won!

hmm, why does this sounds so familiar? But but Poland is all different now, rich, prosperous and open minded. It’s the westerners who are stupid … Just leave us alone! We exactly know what we’re doing.. Shhhhh just wait 20 more years and you will see.
southern 74 | 7,074
7 Jun 2011 #573
There is slavic civilization,germanic and anglosaxonic civilization.Let's say Slavs have some habits that hinder economic activity but why complain when the borsh tastes so good?
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
7 Jun 2011 #574
we’ve won!

You have won Havok, it should be the sole duty for every Polish person to live your life, so they can waste the rest of it projecting their insecurities by pushing Poland down.

God you must be a bore to meet, I can actually hear you go on and on and on about Poland in real life, as if you had one.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
7 Jun 2011 #575
Because if you had travelled to third world countries, I would not expect you to consider life in Poland, anywhere near third world.

You are again proving wrong things, which I have never said are right. Poland is not anywhere near third world just like It isn't anywhere near the first one.

Delphi and other have given their points regarding the automotive matters and I do not need to repeat ehat they've said.

The thing is that I proved you wrong (regarding so many new cars in Poland) and they weren't able to deny it (as It's not possible to deny facts). It's not that there are so few cars in Poland but that so many of them has been imported as second hand vehicles. Lower-middle class Germans buy new VWs, Opels etc. a few years later they sell them to poor Germans and after a few more years they are sold to lower-middle class Poles. That perfectly shows a place of Poland on the European wealth map.

I was recently in Paris for four days with my family, and I use this as a comparison.

Uhmm you could spend as much for example in Kraków, starting from 300EUR/day for hotel.
Havok 10 | 903
7 Jun 2011 #576
You have won Havok, it should be the sole duty for every Polish person to live your life, so they can waste the rest of it projecting their insecurities by pushing Poland down.
God you must be a bore to meet, I can actually hear you go on and on and on about Poland in real life, as if you had one

I was finished with the stuff I was doing and just killing the time @ work so I decided to post something.
But really I gotta go home soon but before that I need to stop at the barbershop. Maybe.
I was just talking to my buddy who got us tickets to see Houston Aeros tomorrow, that is if they win tonight. Gooo Aeros! and I feel like BBQ tonight.

I don't know Sean, there aren't any Polacks around here so I guess you people are the only ones who I can really talk to about Poland. Honestly it would be like talking about a faraway Eskimo village to people here because they have no clue where Poland even is. So what are you up to Sean?

Edit:
****, wait is today Tuesday or Wednesday? So i guess the game is on Thursday... sorry for the confusion.
poland_
7 Jun 2011 #577
Uhmm you could spend as much for example in Kraków, starting from 300EUR/day for hotel.

Grzegorz, you can do better than that. Now Grzegorz, I am going to treat you like a grown up. You have to be consequential, you can't be a slippery p1g, once you have pressed the button those words are yours. Period
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
7 Jun 2011 #578
I was finished with the stuff I was doing and just killing the time @ work so I decided to post something.

A toilet cleaners work is never done - slacker.
poland_
8 Jun 2011 #579
But really I gotta go home soon

youtube.com/watch?v=XrGzNbEXjts

Havok,do you think there is poverty and Illiteracy in any other country in the world except Poland.
Havok 10 | 903
8 Jun 2011 #580
A toilet cleaners work is never done - slacker.

You guys have really good in Poland considering your toilet cleaners have a computer at work with internet access. Listen, you called me a toilet cleaner at least 20 times now, I know you're retarded but is there anyway I could ask you to stop doing it already? It's lame.

Havok,do you think there is poverty and Illiteracy in any other country in the world except Poland.

ok, she is dumb, what's your point? I look at her the same way people in GB look at millions of you.
poland_
8 Jun 2011 #581
ok, she is dumb, what's your point?

Watch the vid, bud- it is representative.
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
8 Jun 2011 #582
ok, she is dumb, what's your point?

Watching the vid and reading Havok thinking 140 km/h was 60 mph I can only draw one conclusion.
Havok 10 | 903
8 Jun 2011 #583
Watch the vid, bud- it is representative.

I don't feel like watching it. She probably says something dumb. Can you please try to compare for a change the smartest people in Poland to the smartest people in the US ? Why you people are always so negative and bitter about everything.
Bzibzioh
8 Jun 2011 #584
Honestly it would be like talking about a faraway Eskimo village to people here because they have no clue where Poland even is.

Don't worry, nobody on this forum is expecting your friends to belong to the triple digit IQ community anyway.
Havok 10 | 903
8 Jun 2011 #585
Watching the vid and reading Havok thinking 140 km/h was 60 mph I can only draw one conclusion.

You said that only 10 times now and you took my sentence out of context and now you keep repeating it. For the sake of the argument let's say I miscalculated the conversion of Km/h to mph. Why this is such a big deal to you? It's not extremely valuable skill to have or an important one. Can you get over it already?
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
8 Jun 2011 #586
Only in the case you will notice the pictures from Technical University of Wrocław and stop repeating the matter of my political poster in which my fridge served as the background. Because it would only make your association to the vid even stronger.
Harry
8 Jun 2011 #587
It's not extremely valuable skill to have or an important one

Yes, to a toilet cleaner it isn't. To a Navy seal it might well be, but I guess you've forgotten that part of seal training already.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
8 Jun 2011 #588
stop repeating the matter of my political poster in which my fridge served as the background.

But he's only mentioned it 7 times so far.
You can just imagine working with the guy, telling you the same "Dumb Polack joke" over and over without a hint of irony.
Bzibzioh
8 Jun 2011 #589
But he's only mentioned it 7 times so far.

He seems like a classic one trick pony - boosting his ego by continuously putting Poland down.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
8 Jun 2011 #590
You can just imagine working with the guy, telling you the same "Dumb Polack joke" over and over without a hint of irony.

I can imagine him now, constantly criticising Poland non-stop, while the rest of the workers sit there going "man, what's his beef?".

Must be a sad life if he actually has time at work to post constant stuff about how bad Poland is. I can only assume that the toilets must be cleaned on a rota and he's a quick worker.
Avalon 4 | 1,067
8 Jun 2011 #591
Can you please try to compare for a change the smartest people in Poland to the smartest people in the US ?

My 5 year old daughter to George W. Bush.

So I guess the best possible option for Polish people is to realize that everyone in the West is poor as well.

It seems like someone in the UK thinks its just as bad there:-

absolutley disgusting repugnant they all need to go and hang thier heads in shame,i have never known so much poverty and depravation in the uk, how are the unemployed going to afford to heat thier homes the cost of gas and power each week uses all the unemployment benifit up ,how are they going to feed and clothe themselves and buy toiletreries and basic food bread and water, to think of all the bankers mps doctors lawyers the royals are all on tens of thousands a year and the poor are going to die and starve and freeze to death, the uk is an international disgrace,

- jenna, london, 8/6/2011 2:14

Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000402/Pain-millions-customers-Scottish-Power-puts-gas-bills-19---electricity-10-too.html#ixzz1Of9qgAHl
milky 13 | 1,656
8 Jun 2011 #592
That perfectly shows a place of Poland on the European wealth map.

exactly, the truth is not liked here lol..so prepare to be hammered for statements like that.
poland_
8 Jun 2011 #593
It seems like someone

scribd.com/doc/41550196/American-Investor-October-2010

Avalon, there is a interesting article in the American Investor, title " Running out of time"
poland_
8 Jun 2011 #595
Ron Paul is your man then !
milky 13 | 1,656
8 Jun 2011 #596
Is that a comparative assessment, where is not in a bad way?

There is a world recession so it's bad all round but in Poland as far as I can see and talking to the people I know, the struggle to live a normal life with the basic requirments is much more intense.

No, constructive means you are showing your vision how the situation could be moved into positive direction.

So I guess you like to sit back and watch lots of Walt Disney movies after work.
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
8 Jun 2011 #597
There's no "after work" in my work, because:
1. I have a work (you don't work)
2. The dollar is too low so I have to work more to get my zloties.

If I ever have spare time, I play my Sandberg bass through my Gallien-Krueger amp/cab, play my Pearl guitar through my Brunetti all-tube amp and sing using my Audix mic, recording all through my TASCAM studio and also using Line6 POD XT Live. If still more time, I take pictures with my Pentax K-5. because I work. In Poland.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
8 Jun 2011 #598
If you are going to talk about the world then Poland is a very rich country.

My point Milky, is that you seem to compare Poland to your own experience growing up in the Celtic tiger, which is fair enough but a very disproportionate amount of people actually live through something like that and even less for a long time.

I think it would be more appropriate to compare like with like, so compare Poland to all the other ex-communist countries, they all broke away at more or less the same time.

It is a matter of perspective.
milky 13 | 1,656
8 Jun 2011 #599
1. I have a work (you don't work)

I work........

your own experience growing up in the Celtic tiger,

Sean I was in my mid twenties when the Tiger begun...I remember the recession very well(80's). Cant be compared to Poland now.

so compare Poland to all the other ex-communist countries

well people on here are comparing Poland to the west and I'm am sayng that, ecomically, the west is a lot richer.
Ironside 53 | 12,474
8 Jun 2011 #600
I think it would be more appropriate to compare like with like, so compare Poland to all the other ex-communist countries, they all broke away at more or less the same time.

Czech and Hungary are doing better from a point of view of an average citizen.

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