Who is poor in Poland?

It is not free.Poles sold out their workforce to get the western benefits.They sold out a lot of things it seems tragic.I saw it in Warsaw.

One nil Avalon. Good skills Sir!

Who started the history with the debt?Wasn't it an anglosaxon idea?You are supposed to like the bubbles.

You mean, all those beautiful buildings bought by Poles by selling the ruined cinemas "Moskwa" and "Sawa" to the West? I think, nice deal.

I would somewhat agree with you, it's better for the business. People tend to choose more convenient and cheaper places to shop at. Also having well trained and polite personnel on staff can make a huge difference especially in the retail business.

Yes,Greeks are good in small business because of that.They get the psychology of the customer.Of course Americans have built a science about that.

ROFL!!!
so, Antek says nobody is carrying bags but if they were, plastic bags would be the preference, because of Norway. now Harry says he carries a reusable bag all the time, for everyday shopping.

perhaps we should let them fight it out between themselves. 50 cents on Harry...

Harry can do what he pleases. Poland is a free country, my ignorant American friend.

Fcuk that: I want convenience and quality. Lucky I live and work where I do really.

You talk of Poles being sold out to the West? Goldman Sachs has ****** you good and proper as well as the American public.
Lets see if you are still so confident in August when the IMF finishes with you. Bubbles? you are talking of Hindenbergs.

Oh really? Is it an American version of The Ketchup Story?! (Hint: a plastic bag costs something like 5 gr = about 1.5 cent)

Ours have been sold out a long time ago.

Sorry I kind of assumed that the quality of the product is a given. When someone sells me a piece of crap that I don’t like I’m going to return it and get my money back. Possibly never shop there again. The store manager calls us at home once a month to just to make sure we’re satisfied with his store and shopping there.


Call me spoiled but I would not pay for a plastic bag and I wouldn't shop at a store where they don't pack my groceries for me with a smile.

Of course it isn't: some days one stall has the better fish, other days another does.

Also the ketchup bags? ;D


Why not, do you care about those few grosze?

lol, you guys want me to send you some free ketchup?

Do you want some free bags from Poland? I can buy a thousand for your personal reserves so that you can do your shopping even in those shops in which bags aren't for free ;P

Well, everyone does it here so i don't have to worry about it.


My wife reuses those plastic bags for scoping crap from cat's litter box. I can send you those back if you want. ;)

LOL, i'm going to open a store in Poland and charge people for wrapping paper. You can either pay me 2 cents or you're carrying your pork chops in your pocket...

no, not everyone, stop making stuff up! lol

But you said something eslse here:


Since you're American I believe that by people you meant Americans...
Yep, cheaper just of few grosze, you will put many many money by by this way :DDD

hes looking at it from a cleaning toilet point of view, 5 carrier bags = 1 less bog to wipe.


Polish free carrier bags suck, i actually had one English and one Polish Tesco's carrier bags when shopping the other day (you know women they always collect bloody carrier bags) any way the Polish bag burst after about two jars and a carton of juice.

If you had ever been in Poland you'd know that it's for 2 years now. Earlier bags were free but as you know, for us Europeans ecology is important (I mean those in gov obviously thinks so) that new regulations came to live which bans plastic bags in supermarkets. That's why you must buy it now.

"The home of the brave and the land of the free", 14 trillion dollars in debt and you still do not understand, nothing, is for free. Whether you buy a bag or its added to the price of the goods you buy, you still end up paying ( and in your case, you pay the wages of the person who packs your bag).

That is a deal killer. See, this is how stores here build a loyal customer base and keep them coming back for more. It's hard to compete if you can't sustain the quality of your product. It's also difficult to establish a brand name that way if you own a chain for example.


The store should absorb the cost of the bag.


it's all about the perception. You guys are never going to be able to compete with the west with this attitude.


That doesn't make much sense, you know lol.

But it's banned, don't you get it?!
Here you can read about it:


polityka.pl/rynek/gospodarka/243704,1,koniec-torebek-foliowych---za-i-przeciw.read

Ok, I think this thread stopped making sense a while back. First you curse reusable bag shoppers. Then you say, they can do as they please (but only select few, it seems). Then you want free bags, but then you say free bags are like free ketchup, and they are nowhere near as good as the English free bags. Or something, really hard to follow this bs.

Coming back to the topic, though, it looks like the main way of making money in Poland is cutting costs. It applies to ketchup, bags for which you have to pay, apparently wrapping paper, too, stripping houses before putting them on the market, but also employment - everyone says you can't make money in Poland, you can't advance, bosses are looking for the cheapest workers they can find, private employers cheat on wages and on taxes, swindle people out of their benefits by categorizing them in the "temporary" worker status, all in the name of lowering costs. I hope you realize that this Polish version of "capitalism" will never make Poland a wealthy country, the way only innovation can do. You will never be able to cut costs to match the labor costs of India or China, but you can be more innovative than they are. That's the only way.

So, I think people should at one point stop thinking about the money they lose on basic necessities of shoppers, honest wages for their employees, or not cheating on taxes, and start thinking about the money they could be making with better customer serivce, better qualified and engaged employees, and innovation.

I remember when they banned them in Ireland, before that plastic bags were the national fruit on trees, they were all over the place.
Reusing bags is a better idea, we live on a finite planet but I could care less if someone wants them for "free".


Good point.
The thing I find very interesting about Poland are the opportunities, some markets are wide open for improvement.


Bingo, Poland, the land of opportunity!

It is extremely hard to sustain quality, when most of what you consume is manufactured in China or outside your home nation...


The market in USA- 2011 is price over quality ( own label brands), you are in a recession.

Then as a store purchase biodegradable bags, or better yet get bags that are made of cloth and give them away to your loyal customers. Put a logo of your store on them. What do they teach you at school over there? It’s like talking to 3rd graders.