Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best?

A brave statement considering you know very little about me. He does some stuff for the community does he? You mean to say after he was elected he actually did something? What a great guy. Anyway what exactly does he do for the community? Since you like to keep having a go at me and assuming I do nothing, what do you do for the community oh great delph?

FGS if this Godson character was no good, he wouldn't be where he is today.

A regular surgery? Far more than that, as far as I'm aware. He was (maybe still is, I haven't read about him in a while) involved with many community ventures and took up many issues on behalf of the people.


He was doing all these things long before he entered the Sejm. In fact, as I recall, it's how he started in politics - because he took up the issues of the common people.

And yes, the ordinary Poles somewhat tend to refuse to do such things. There's nothing similar where I live, except a useless local community council that does its best not to tell anyone anything about themselves.


And who, in today's Europe, does such a thing in politics? Do remember that neither of them hold any positions of power within the government - they are backbenchers with no real influence on Governmental policy.


Go ask the people of Lodz or the graduates of the university of Economics in Poznan. Not me, for am I neither.


Except the locals aren't actually doing this stuff. It's quite shameful that it took an African immigrant to get stuff done in Lodz rather than a local, isn't it?


More than you.

If you want to do something for Poland, I'm sure I can arrange something. I could do with someone for the last 2 weeks of January for a community-based initiative to provide English language football training for poor kids that can't afford private English classes. Interested? Accommodation is provided.

Negroes ruling indigenous Europeans in their own native land.

Funny stuff.

Mainly because the Europeans in this case are useless.

oh for God's sake... YOU must be living in a cave.

Please read about them before you comment. Ridiculous is that a stinking pederast and a disgusting transverstit got elected. These Negros are fine. It doesn't mean we should import millions of Africans but some smart individuals can be found in every part of the world.

Every piece of technology you are currently using was invented by Europeans.

The democracy we currently enjoy, Europeans.

Medical advancement and people living after their 30th birthday, Europeans.

And so on and so forth.


Nah, I live in a nice semi four bedroom with a nice hot tub out the back and a '10 alpha romeo out the front.

Sometimes a picture paints a thousand words.

In what sense - good? Do you mean successful or helpful?

So why is it that they had to rely on a guy from Nigeria to actually help them with their problems?

Even I see the complete absurdity in having to import someone to help the locals because the locals can't help themselves.

Politicians get into politics to enrich and empower themselves. Especially the blacks. Its why Africa is such a complete and utter hole.

Or, do you think this Godson character had a dream one night in his Lagos apartment, woke up and decided that it was time to hit the road, relocate to Lodz and help the locals?

A modern day Joan of Arc, Godson of Lodz!

Judge them on their record, not on their ethnicity.


Then you are in an excellent position to make some charitable contributions to those that are not so fortunate...

Also check out the third world these days:

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He uses it when it suits him, does he not?

"The Polish Obama!"

Opens himself to criticism due to his ethnicity so. Fair game.

Question one, can you name one decent black run country?

Question two, can you name one decent predominantly black country?

You have exposed your own doubts. Your responses are too qualified to be taken seriously and don't deserve a reply.


So according to you these two heroes are just ordinary folk doing the best they can but when you reasonably ask for measurable results of what they've done other than have an immigrant background the shrill cry goes up that no one in Europe measures performance in politics! No wonder the majority of voters are so disaffected and don't care about who is standing in an election. They know it makes little to no difference in their daily lives who gets in and the politicians and their stooge supporters know it as well and so are very content to maintain the status quo. And this explains why millions of Poles have gone abroad.


Oh, so you are willing to defend these two greasy pole climbers with very vague and guarded wording but when pressed for real proof you expect me to go around taking my own street surveys. You're just dodging the issue because you have no answers (or more likely don't want to admit to the reality of the answers) to the very questions you had the temerity to ask me.

Go read for yourself. It's all there - or even better, ask the people of Lodz why they voted for him overwhelmingly in 2011.


Well, go ahead and ask the people of Lodz what they've done. Or even better, ask the students at the university what they think.

As for the Poles having gone abroad - there are millions of other people who live abroad, too. No big deal.


Why take a street survey? The popularity of Godson (and the street politics of Killion) speak for themselves.

Both of them got to where they were not because they rode behind the leaders, but because they did something tangible for local communities and people. Unless of course, you count supporting locals as being insignificant because it doesn't result in wealth creation...

Sadly, both of them have done a far better job with their local constituents than most of the local born ones. They certainly didn't get elected for any other reason.

You might want to check these facts. Either google them or visit your local library.
Can you tell me, for instance, which European countries invented medicine, gunpowder, algebra or even the wheel?

Do you desire to supplement your knowledge with new information or are you testing me?

How about a little search?

johngodson.pl


Chosen at random from his site - he sponsors junior high school students with his own scholarships.


johngodson.pl/?page_id=10


Whjy are you in US? Were you a political refugee?

No, you went to US to improve your fekking quality of life.

Remember one saying: Live and let live.


Funny and sad at the same time.


If I say zero, will it entail condemnation from your side?

If I say Godson has worked on improving the quality of life of average residents of the city of £ódź, will you be satisfied?

johngodson.pl/?page_id=11

Great idea. I hope to do the same with elementary school children someday - I got exceptionally angry a few days ago after reading about how much money parents have to spend on books. Any of our usual suspects want to contribute on PF?

Rather a sweeping statement, you must include Blair, Brown, George W. Bush, Gaddafi, Saddam etc, all attained power over people, you think these men were good for their country?

Good question.


Yes, of course. Nobody is irreplaceable. If one day you or me vanish from this forum for ever, do you think anybody will care? :):):):)

:):):):):) Guys, I love this exchange of yours.

PF is irreplaceable, after all.

Thank you.

If that's true, then there is no justice... you should have been born in Africa. Hopefully, in your next life.. ;)

You know what is unbelievable here? That I am actually a qualified football coach in Britain, so yeah I am interested actually [particularly since I have most of January off as a student], just a little weary, considering the offer is from you.

Etc means the Snow Queen?

Only to you.

interesting point, but what your list has in common, is that all these were from the elite of their countries, and held the 'top job'.

so I don't think they are comparable with Godson.

They all started off with the promise of doing the best for their constituents/people, they all lied. The fact that they reached the top only goes to show that they lied better than those around them.

Honest men seem to be in a very small minority. Edmund Burke (1729-1797) on being asked why he wanted to be a member of Parliament replied " I wish to have my share of doing good and resisting evil",

possibly the last, honest, politician.

Just a notice : WP was kind enough to PM me, and - fingers crossed - we might be able to organise something!

possibly - plus Tony Benn perhaps

Yes, I never liked the man but he was honest. Gave up a title instead of seeking one.