Why are Muslims seen as a deterrent to Poland?

(Polish)Tatars are just Polish (they speak Polish everyday), they have proved loyal to Poland thoughout centuries and also proved moderate

There were definitely tensions with mainstream Tatars and more recent arrivals (not to mention the poisonous Saudi missionaries that began appearing among them around the turn of the century to turn them back into 'real' muslims).

I didn't keep up with the situation and don't know how that's all resolved (or if it has) but pretending there weren't problems doesn't help anything.

@jon357

I will ask for the fourth timeto explain your comment that I am evidently like an Islamist who cannot see the opposing view. What opposing view would that be Jon ?

Those who are here for centuries, are already here. What is your point? Are you trying to be witty? Is that your akward moment of being pain in the butt?

Influence of the SA clerics and money should be stopped somehow.

US should stop being silly in regrad of the likes of Iran.

As I remember those efforts were largely rebuffed. The Grand Mufti at the time (now retired) was extremely liberal in outlook.

Go , as a christian or as an atheist, and try to start your own movement in an islamic country. You will be killed almost instantly. These cultures do not mix together. Keep the islam soldiers out of Eastern Europe please

I notice that no one is saying that it would be a great thing for a bunch of Christians to immigrate to Middle Eastern countries...

You probably haven't seen the new cathedral in Dubai.

Or the impotent anger posted on here when a small new mosque was built in Warsaw.

Nor do their religions and that is why the Muslims have declared a Holy War on Christians.
I think Christian Countries such as Poland should offer Muslims the same rights that say Iran would offer them if they invaded Iran to live.

Have the Polish men walk down the street with their dog, a bottle of vodka and some sauerkraut and pork.
See how long Christian worship out in the streets in public with a cross of Jesus Christ would last like Islam is often practiced facing East kissing their matts with their butts up in the air out in a public place.

See how far a Christian woman would get with the least bit of bare skin exposed as that surely is a sign of come rape me to some Muslim men.


Dubai is a very poor example of a country full of Islamic terrorists.


LOL - your self induced choice of words for impact are most comical sometimes jon.

Because it isn't full of islamists.

And that is why Dubai is a very poor example that you constantly use as a crutch to compare an Islamic country.
jon, you being of no admitted religion makes it understandable why you can so easily 'daily' provoke with your anti Christian passive aggressions.
My guess is because Christians stand for everything that you stand against !
Poland is a Christian country and Islam has declared a Holy War on Christians so therefore that is why Muslims are a deterrent to Poland.

Once All Muslims get established in controlling numbers they will ban together and circle the wagons as Islam has one goal which is to kill all the infidels in the world or make them convert as the Quran instructs them to do.

Poland is hip to that as they are watching it unfold in the EU right now.
For you to promote your passive aggressive propaganda ilk otherwise here daily makes one wonder who is paying you to infiltrate this forum with your daft fodder to destroy Poland's culture ??????

It has become very apparent that you hate Poland and it's Christian culture and have every intention to destroy it with your propaganda here.

Maybe Dubai would be a better choice for your residency and let Poland keep their culture and values.

@jon357

Fifth requestto explain your accusation Jon ?

I think it has been proven already why muslims are seen as a deterrent to Poland-perhaps not the most precise of title threads but we get the gist.

Conduct a survey on the streets of Poland and I am certain most people would agree that they do not want large numbers of muslims moving to Poland. You can argue they are wrong until you are blue in the face but it won't change anything.

You said that you choose NOT to have Muslims in Poland. That would include Tatars then, wouldn't it? Your views are not consistent with what you say.


Have you seen Trump kissing up to the Saudi king? Ain't going to happen as long as oil and money is involved.

No excuse on my part as I was just trying to be polite as I possibly could at the time.
I originally was going to use the title, "Why are Muslims seen as being unwanted by Poland."


He has goes into hiding when I get his ears pinned to the wall too.
He will wait until he gets an allie like Lyzko to confuse your question by doing a re-direct by going off on a bunny trail of some pointless merry-go-round ganging up on you with some irrelevant baffling b.s. so your original question to him gets buried.

The Bleeding Heart Liberal lost this thread back when Poland voted to keep them out of Poland.


They will keep on just so they can post more of their false propaganda to how much Poland welcomes non refugee immigrants.
Who's payroll are these guys on to post such propaganda and fake news ?

@johnny reb

I am glad it isn't just me who can see through the tactics.

The point is though that as much as certain European countries wish to remain hermetically sealed off from the non-Christian world, the fact remains that it isn't Islam that's bad, as with guns or firearms in and of themselves, rather those who continually abuse the basic goodness of the Qu'ran, the Bible, the Upanishads or whichever book is said to hold "truth" for its followers!!

Should countries be able to hermetically seal themselves off from the Christian world?


No, it's a too high percentage of muslims that take nonsense in the koran way too seriously and/or have no other moral reference point - islam has a monolopy on morality in much of the muslim world and monopolies are never good.

No, that is not the point, that is your own personal propagandist opinion.
The point is that Islam has called for a Holy War against Christians and that is the point.
The Cow is packed full of hate if you would take time to read it.
To have the gall to compare it to the Bible shows how you have been biasedly brainwashed.
They haven't converted you have they Lyzko ?

True but rather an obvious point to make.

Guns and firearms are not bad of themselves but if one allows thousands of weapons to be made available to anybody then the probability of some problems down the road increases sharply.

We don't need to speculate or hypothesise. This isn't the 1970's and we don't have to debate what a combined Islamic/Western society would look like. We already know.

Spot on.


As many as you like...

You two guys spend a lot of time congratulating one another, why don't you get a room together?? Lol

Why didn't you list the Torah in your litany of religious text? Or do you strictly follow the Talmud and thus keep your criticism locked solely on non-Jewish religions?

My views are consistent. I'm not a blind fanatic like yourself. It would make no sense to kick out people who have been living in Poland for a few generations. It doesn't mean I want some Muslism settling in the country.

Personally I have nothing against Muslim, I have a Muslim acquaintance.- if that matters as all. \

I'm clearly against relocation of Muslism to Poland mainly because of Islam.


THAT is clearly garbage.

I have no problem with educated secularly oriented Muslims who come to Poland (I know a number of them and they are quite nice people) and who can negotiate their religious convictions on their own without state support.

But large-scaled importation of people without much education or skills for the sole purpose of creating a muslim minority (there doesn't seem to be any other longterm goal) is just totally insane. There's no word for it. Largescale muslim immigration to Europe is a well-known phenomenon and has not worked out very well anywhere and trying it in new countries is unlikely to change its terrible track record.

Sure there is a long term goal and that is to turn that Muslim minority into a Muslim MAJORITY like they have done in towns in the U.K., the U.S., France, Brussels.......

Muslim Christian REFUGEES are most welcomed into Christian Countries.
Muslim Islamic Economic INVADERS to take over and spread Islam are the ones that are the unwelcomed ones.

Of course it is garbage. There's a lot of textbook liberals on this forum who are tolerant of Islamification of the West yet they have no actual experience of living in and amongst a muslim community.

@jon357

Sixth request Jon ? Are you afraid to stand up for what you believe in or too scared to say what you really think ? It doesn't actually matter as I can see Admin are happy to allow you to make claims and accusations that you then fail to back up. Perhaps it's time the rest of us start doing the same in the interests of equality of course

And Catholicism is perfect, Ironside? That's ethnocentric provincialisn on your part! Who are YOU to judge what's "garbage" vs. what isn't anyhow?

Yeah, burkas and female genital mutilation and the death penalty for apostasy are just as good as any other religious practice!

The problem with not being judgemental is the eventual loss of the ability to distinguish good from evil.

Adherents of that denomination certainly believe it is indeed that.

Adherents of all denominations think that....