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Mishmash facts about Poland and Poles


Crow  154 | 9482
7 Dec 2024   #151
Aside emotions between Poles and Serbs since time immemorial but, you people needs to be aware that it was ONLY Poland that came in aid to Serbians when Ottomans invaded (at that time Russia dealt with Mongols and came later). Polish King Wladislav Warnenchyk and Zawisha Czarny effectively died in the realm of Serbian Empire fighting Turks. Other Europeans at that time? They cooperated with the Turks.

Jadwiga herself was the result of intermarriages between Polish Piast and Serbian Nemanjic houses. Why do you think that nobles organize marriages? To strengthen economic ties. For the same reason Rome prevented Jadwiga to have children. To secure its own and Germanic domination on Baltic-Balkan line that was ALWAYS traditionally ruled by Poles and Serbs.
Crow  154 | 9482
7 Dec 2024   #152
So, the evil Turks by their invasion and greedy Rome by supporting that invasion and, idiotic Constantinople (by inviting Turks to take part in Civil War that occurred for the throne of Constantinople), as well as western Europe by sending crusades (on the call of the papacy) to loot Eastern Roman Empire and strengthen influence of Rome,... see, they all broke the backbone of Serbian Empire and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and sunk us in centuries long struggle to survive and restore our rights. Rome`s insistence on crusades against Rus were the last sh*t that secured misery of us all.

Add to it era of slavery that Rome, Constantinople, western Europe, Jews and Arabs done to us, even prior to Turkish invasion.

See what THEY did to us and now understand their fear of us, if we ever restore our power.

Poles?

Poles, brothers, we should connect on the Balkan-Baltic line and prevent any future projects against us. This was plan of Piasts and Nemanjics.
Feniks  1 | 717
12 Dec 2024   #153
My desk was a mess!

You've shattered my illusion now!

every day they'd give me drawings, little messages, 'teacher this is for you, I love you' :))

That's so sweet :)

How did you know!

Just a wild guess ;)
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #154
Did you know that the first wild animal ever put under official protection in Poland was the beaver?

As elsewhere in Central and Eastern Europe, the principal activity of Jews in medieval Poland was commerce and trade, including the export and import of goods such as cloth, linen, furs, hides, wax, metal objects, and slaves.

Did you know that the European beaver (Castor fiber), a species native to Poland, was completely extirpated by 1945?

Source: lovepoland.org/portfolio-posts/european-beaver/

Did you know that World War II ended on September 2, 1945?

Do you know who didn't stay behind or return to Poland to put on a hardhat, grab a shovel, wrench, and hammer, and help their Polish neighbors rebuild?

Amazing! All these coincidences! :)
Novichok  5 | 8345
22 Dec 2024   #155
and hammer, and help their Polish neighbors rebuild?

Why should they? Counting money - especially the stolen one - is a lot easier and more profitable. They brought it to perfection in America. See Madoff.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #156
Why should they?

With over 26,000 posts (yikes, wasn't it 25,000 just last month?), the Baboon is desperately trying to convince everyone that Poles and Jews were socially and economically indistinguishable for centuries, even though the historical record shows a very different reality.
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #157
Amazing!

Exactly!!!!
However, there is a problem coz your post reminds me of the stream of consciousness invented by certain Irish writer. He was a great artist but your lousy imitation is just a pathetic parody. Please, give it up.

25,000

Wow, thanks for counting it for me coz I never remember. Really so many??? :):):)

Poles and Jews

Poles/Polesses and Jews/Jewesses - patriotic brothers in arms!!!

DId you know 13% Polish officers murdered by Soviets in Katyn Massace were of Jewish origin??
Glory to them!!!
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #158
DId you know 13% Polish officers murdered by Soviets in Katyn Massace were of Jewish origin?

Why weren't they non-commissioned officers or enlisted? If they were, how many of them were? :)
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #159
weren't they

Read more on the topic coz it is obvious you have no idea whatsoever.
When you do, come back and we can talk. ):):) I like educating you but right now I am busy in other threads so you must depend on your own work for a while. Ha!!!
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #160
but right now I am busy in other threads so you must depend on your own work for a while.

In other words, you either don't know or don't want to admit that they went out of their way to be overrepresented in the officer ranks! :)

Indeed, officer ranks are nearly always distanced from the hardships faced by non-commissioned officers and enlisted men, who are subjected to the brutal realities of war in ways officers (knowingly) can only observe.
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #161
overrepresented

Is it their fault that they were naturally intelligent and knowledgeable??? The army needs such officers. We should thank those Polish Jews for being so. Ha!!

non-commissioned officers and enlisted men

Read more on the topic. Mostly high rank officers were murdered in Soviet massacres.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #162
Is it their fault that they were naturally intelligent and knowledgeable?

LOL! Prove it! :)

Mostly high rank officers were murdered in Soviet massacres.

if they were so intelligent then how did they get captured in the first place?

We should thank those Jews for being so. Ha!!

Thanks for what? Why didn't they succeed in defending Poland from Nazi and Soviet occupation?
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #163
how did they get captured in the first place?

Soviets captured a few hundred thousand Polish military in the east. Those Jewish officers were decent and went with their soldiers into capticity.
It wasn`t their fault that the rightist gov of Poland had ordered them to refrain from fighting the Red Army. They only obeyed orders coz they were soldiers.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #164
It wasn`t their fault

LOL!

Typical. So typical that your responses are now boring.

Those Jewish officers were decent and went with their soldiers into capticity.

An overly generalized and simplistic statement that makes sweeping and unfounded claims about the morality or behavior of an entire group.

the rightist gov of Poland had ordered them to refrain from fighting the Red Army.

Completely false and even ideologically contradictory.

After the German and Soviet invasions in 1939, the Polish government in exile had no control over events within Poland, and the Polish military, caught between the two invading powers, was overwhelmed and unprepared, with no specific order to refrain from fighting the Soviets.

They only obeyed orders coz they were soldiers.

Your preferred heroes were either trying to escape to the East to avoid capture, or they made the political decision-or exercised ethno-solidarity-by surrendering to or hoping to join their brethren in the Soviet forces.

As you already pointed out, it was a fatal miscalculation on their part.
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #165
the Polish government in exile

They ran away from Poland though Polish army was still gallantly fighting against Germans and Soviets! They were traitors.

with no specific order

Stop lying as usual. The chief commander of the Polish Army decreed on 17 Sep 1939 after Soviets invaded in the East:

The Soviets have entered. I order a general withdrawal to Romania and Hungary by the shortest routes. Do not fight the Bolsheviks..........,
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #166
They ran away from Poland though Polish army was still gallantly fighting against Germans and Soviets! They were traitors.

PRL lies!

Do not fight the Bolsheviks..........,

No source? Not true! :)
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #167
No source?

But this is commonly known in Poland, even taught in history class in primary schools. Pre war rightist dictatorial gov of Poland were incompetent traitors. :):):)

Not true! :)

It seems I cornered you like a rat and you fully realise it, hence these desperate outbursts. hahahaha
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #168
History is written by the victors; in your case, by your beloved PRL.
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #169
History is written

Also by non partisan historians. And most of them agree that the Polish gov acted ignobly when they deserted the fighting armies and defected to Romania on 17 Sep.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #170
acted ignobly when they deserted

Is that how the Zionists are regarded for willingly boarding planes, trains and automobiles out of Poland during and after WWII and the height of the PRL?

They too had a choice, didn't they? :)
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #171
willingly boarding planes, trains and automobiles out of Poland

Stop lying. They were offered one way "passports" aka travel pass with no-return option. If they stayed in Poland, they would be persecuted like in tsarist times. Pogroms on Polish Jews/Jewesses which ethnic Poles/Polesses organised right after WW2 were old Russian invention.

They too had a choice, didn't they?

Yes, they had a choice between living in free world and a pogrom atmosphere existence.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
22 Dec 2024   #172
Pogroms on Polish Jews/Jewesses which ethnic Poles/Polesses organised right after WW2 were old Russian invention.

Stop lying.

Your selective narrative ALWAYS EXCLUDES facts about their own agitation for even more autonomy in Poland by engaging in deliberate anti-social activities against the local Polish populations and authorities.

Their misbehavior in Poland set precedence. Indeed, the world saw it again in how Israelis knowingly carried out acts of aggression and violence to push the native Palestinian people off their ancestral lands in order to establish their own ethno-state on top of it. Fact!

Yes, they had a choice between living in free world and a pogrom atmosphere existence.

So, when the going got tough, they got going - straight out of Poland! Thanks for admitting they were never good neighbors.
OP pawian  222 | 26596
22 Dec 2024   #173
neighbors.

At least they didn`t dig through death camp ashes for gold teeth. Ha!!!
Alien  25 | 6204
23 Dec 2024   #174
didn`t dig through death camp ashes for gold teeth. Ha!!!

Has anyone done this?
OP pawian  222 | 26596
23 Dec 2024   #175
Yes, they did but never mind. We don`t need to follow Polo`s warped path in this thread.
Poloniusz  5 | 970
27 Dec 2024   #176
At least they didn`t dig through death camp ashes for gold teeth. Ha!!!

Of course not; as kapos they infamously supervised all the forced labor, didn't they? :)
Poloniusz  5 | 970
31 Dec 2024   #177
Jews/Jewesses - patriotic brothers in arms!!! Glory to them!!!

Did you know that, Norman Salsitz describes growing up in a Jewish community in a Polish town and discovering that many Jews did not even know what the Polish flag looked like? [Source: Salsitz, Norman. [As Told to Richard Skolnick]. A Jewish Boyhood in Poland. Remembering Kolbuszowa. Syracuse University Press, 1992, page 73.]

Shame on them!!!
Poloniusz  5 | 970
31 Dec 2024   #178
Your selective narrative ALWAYS EXCLUDES facts about their own agitation for even more autonomy in Poland by engaging in deliberate anti-social activities against the local Polish populations and authorities.

Indeed, some of them not only admitted it but have even bragged about it.

'The first prime minister of modern Israel, David Ben-Gurion, once recalled his childhood among non-Jewish children in Poland: "Somebody would perhaps throw a stone, or start an argument, and very often it was the Jews who started first. We used to get the upper hand."' [Source: Kurzman, Dan. Ben-Gurion: Prophet of Fire. Simon and Schuster, New York, 1983, page 50.]
OP pawian  222 | 26596
4 Jan 2025   #179
What do you know about the descendants of Polish soldiers sent to Santo Domingo, today Haiti/Dominicana, by Napoleon in 1802 to suppress the rising of slaves there?
Decent Poles were reluctant to fight against blacks yet they did coz that was their duty and they loved Napoleon. Most of them perished on the island due to combat losses and tropical diseases. A few hundred survived and stayed. They started new lives with families etc.

Their descendants still live in Haiti today.
The attitude of the insurgents towards the Polish legionnaires changed during the fighting. At first, they were treated worse than the French. No wonder. Our allies told the blacks that "Poles are cannibals". They believed this nonsense, so they did not spare the legionnaires. However, the locals soon realized that this was complete nonsense. They began to look more kindly at our legionnaires. Even Dessalines understood the similarity of the situation of both peoples fighting for freedom, the Polish and the Haitian, who was supposed to have called the Poles "the white blacks of Europe". The proof of his kindness towards our nation was the fact that his personal guard consisted of thirty Poles (prisoners or deserters).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians


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Alien  25 | 6204
4 Jan 2025   #180
his personal guard consisted of thirty Poles (prisoners or deserters).

It is a pity that the Pope decided not to use a Polish guard but a Swiss one.


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