Hello everyone, I am going to be attending a First Holy Communion in May of this year, during my visit to Poland. It will be for my good friend's daughter - the family I will be staying with. What is an appropriate gift for this occasion?
Also, is it customary that there will be a party or celebration after the church?
Any idea where I can get a nice card in Polish here in the US ?! Thanks so much!!
First Holy Communion is a big celebration in Poland, usually a party after the church service. Probably very similar to what everyone does in the USA. My grandson will be
having his First Communion this May also and I got him a really nice figurine of a boy kneeling as a rememberance, my Mom got him a rosary that she purchased in the Holy Land...for a little girl there are so many neat gifts you can pick up here...and also Cash is always welcomed..kids love Cash.
If you have any local Polish stores in your area, they usually have Polish First Communion Cards. Or you can check online for Polish Cards/Gifts or you can wait till you
get to Poland and meet the little girl and get to know what she likes.
Hmmm Great ideas, everyone. Actually I know the little girl pretty well, I have spent a good amount of time with her & we are great friends even though my Polish is horrible & she is still learning English! I am her American Aunt :)
I was thinking some earrings or a bracelet or money... maybe a small gift & some money she can buy something she would like with.
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First Holy Communion. It is a BIG thing in Poland. Some parishes require that children attending their First Holy Communion wear an "Alba", which a decorative stylish cloth, making everyone look equal. This has become a norm over the last few years because the richer Polish families display their children in the most elegant, expensive newest fashion in order to express how rich they are, competing against other less to do families with "Look what I got".
The girls are dressed in very expensive almost bride-like creations, look like models, some wear make-up and fabulous hairdos, hair gets permed and highlighted, their ears get pierced, the boys wear expensive wool suits. Even the parents dress extravagantly, some wearing fur coats.
Communion gifts are equally expensive, such as computers, bicycles, watches, gold rings and other toys. Spreading hatred and jelousy among the poorer parents and making them feel "ashamed".
The mentality behind this is to show how much money one has and for everyone to see, not what the occassion stands for.
And because of that, it got to the point that the "Alba"s are becoming more popular, leaving less stress on the families and enjoying the occasion.
Fur coats in May... never seen. But the rest quite true and sad. Though not only Polish catholics have such attitude to First Holy Communion. In Mexico girls look like brides too. I think the whole occasion lost its sense long time ago.
I got a prayer book a rosary and a wooden plaque with Jesus on - but that was a long time a go, I think I too would have preferred jewellery a little silver jewellery box with the date and event incribed on would be nice.
As I know, children receive a rosary and a prayer book from the priest in advance, parents pay for that.
The girls are dressed in very expensive almost bride-like creations, look like models, some wear make-up and fabulous hairdos, hair gets permed and highlighted, their ears get pierced, the boys wear expensive wool suits. Even the parents dress extravagantly, some wearing fur coats.
You're exaggerating a little, but to be sure I'll check it in a week time:-)
Communion gifts are equally expensive, such as computers, bicycles, watches, gold rings and other toys. Spreading hatred and jelousy among the poorer parents and making them feel "ashamed".
In this case you're right, a quad is also welcomed:-) anyway, I buy a mp4 for my nephew, I hope he'll enjoy it.
First Holy Communion is yet another celerbation that has been stripped of its spiritual dimension and subjected to agrgressive pop-culture commercialism which brain-washed go-with-the-flow families feed and perpetuate. Like Sandy Clutz (Santa Claus) Christmas, it is all about spend through the nose and shop till you drop -- zero substance and mega-glitter and packaging so the filthy-rich exploiters can get even richer!
The parents and the children will dress as best as possible to mark the occasion. Contrary to what is being said, little will be thought of other families watching and envying. The celebrations after church will be with one's own family. People who are bothered that they have less than rich ones, should work faster and stare less.
I can't imagine how much envy and hatred there is directed to other people on the basis of wealth. (inni majom) But I would not have the event spoiled for the kid and family just to satisfy the little hearts of the enviers. The dress and jewellery are important for the little ones - and fun for the grow ups.
In Wprost or Polityka there was 3-4 years ago an article about millionaires who hide from public view by never mentioning their wealth and going to work to hide it. They live next door to you, Polonius3, and you will never be trusted with this information.
that's interesting.. i recall all the girls getting flowers after the ceremony.. maybe a local tradition.. i dunno.. actually i've witnessed the same thing here in the states.
. i got a watch, a catechism, a rosary and a picture of Jesus which was kind of like a diploma or a commemorative plaque.
I would think that you could purchase a Holy Communion card in a polish neighborhood. In Philadelphia that would be in Port Richmond or Bridesburg neighborhood..
After a lot of searching I found a ring that was made in Jerusalem in 4 BC supposedly the year that Jesus was born and I gave it to my daughter who had her communion last Sunday, we also bought her a camera as she loves photography.
As to giving money, yes families do give money and this varies from family to family, but a rough idea will be around 200 -500 pln. But if you feel uncomfortable about giving money then combine it with a religious gift and the rest in money.
Most kids want money these days, it was always something gold, with the price of gold these days , I personally believe it is better to give money, so the child can buy what they want with the money collected.
I found a ring that was made in Jerusalem in 4 BC supposedly the year that Jesus was born
Either a great find, was it certified in any way, just curios. Or a great story from the salesperson.
Most kids want money these days, it was always something gold, with the price of gold these days , I personally believe it is better to give money, so the child can buy what they want with the money collected.
Completely defeats the point of the First Communion though - it's a religious service and should be treated as such, rather than an excuse to buy expensive presents. Hence why something religious is appropriate, not money.
Of course, a good idea could be to give some religious items and make a donation to a Catholic foundation on their behalf - many churches will have their own foundations set up to help people in the parish.
Thank you Delphiandomine, I get your point. However, that is what my polish friends do when there is a first communion. After church, there is a party and about 50 people have been invited. Cash seems to be more practical (?)
Hence why something religious is appropriate, not money.
Of course, a good idea could be to give some religious items and make a donation to a Catholic foundation on their behalf - many churches will have their own foundations set up to help people in the parish
oh my my......how high your horse is....
My kids were furious with me for not making them catholics when they heard their Polish cousin had copped 800 zl for his first communion. 800 zl!!! Says it all for me about the catholic church really.
My kids were furious with me for not making them catholics when they heard their Polish cousin had copped 800 zl for his first communion. 800 zl!!! Says it all for me about the catholic church really.
Thank you Delphiandomine, I get your point. However, that is what my polish friends do when there is a first communion. After church, there is a party and about 50 people have been invited. Cash seems to be more practical (?)
It's sad. The Catholic Church, for all its failures, has been actively trying to discourage this in Poland - many churches are choosing to only allow plain dress in the church. Sadly, the parents are still going overboard - a party for 50 people? For what?
In all seriousness, if the parents are unhappy with you giving a religious gift, then you know that the ceremony was more about appearances than religion - which is awful.
Same thing has been happening in Ireland - people are going well overboard to show how much money they're giving. And yet, along the way, the original meaning of the ceremony is being lost.
Funnily enough, if you ask most people, the gift that meant the most was usually some sort of religious item - not cash.
Generally, first communion and the whole circus that's developed around it is just about showing people how much you can afford to spend (even if it's borrowed money) and that you expect substantial presents from all those invited.
What I cannot understand is why people don't make copies of their bank statements and stick them outside their front door, so that everybody would know how much they can afford, and have the first communion for the child the way it was originally intended.
First Holy Communion is succumbing to the same disease as weddings did earlier -- the hyper-commercialisation of our times. High-powered adverts have brainwashed people into allowing what since time immemorial had been family occasions par excellence fall into the ‘just reach for your credit card, we’ll do the rest’ mode.
Weddings have evolved into a wedding industry and a communion industry is well on its way to emerging. Same with studniówka. Rather than school-leavers decorating the gym with balloons and streamers and their parents preparing the eats, stretch limos are hired to whisk kids to clubs and restaurants for the festivities. So we can also speak of a studniówka industry…
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