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Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it?


smurf  38 | 1940
1 Aug 2010   #271
[quote=zetigrek]ts a propaganda

Some % of ppl who uses marihuana on regular basis will suffer of schizofrenia induced by its usage. Although its rather small % its enough to not legilize it (and other stuff like magic mashrooms, lsd, etc). Some ppl say that marihuana is less harmful than alcohol. So what? If it was ever possible alcohol would be delegalized. What for do you think are those limitations of alcohol distribution in lots of countries? A freedom given once is a freedom that no one can abolish.[/quote]

The only people to suffer any form of schizophrenia are those that already have it in their genes. Marijuana does not bring on schizophrenia and if you ever find research that proves me wrong then I'll eat my hat.

A freedom once give can of course be taken back just recently some legal drugs available in

dopalacze

in Ireland
were made illegal, so a freedom can be abolished quite quickly actually.

ts a propaganda

Watch the movie dude, you'll see it isn't propaganda. There are plenty of times in it where official government research documents are used to highlight that marijuana is

1. harmless, once smoked in it's natural form
2. Not addictive
3. Not a gateway drug

Plus it's the most peaceful drug ever, you'll never hear of a stoner getting arrested for fighting or hitting somebody or causing damage to property, unlike with alcohol
zetigrek
1 Aug 2010   #272
Yes. Drugs are drugs. My whole point is that telling everyone drugs are illegal won't make the drugs disappear. Just look at what happened in America when they declared alcoholic beverages illegal. The Mafia took over and people got killed. And for what? Drinking a beer?

Maybe its better than a great amount of ppl who can get addicted/ill because of easy access of drugs? Illegalness is still some king of obstacle in massive over-usage.

I want to add I'm against criminalisation of drug users. I'm just against legalisation of any drug.

Replace that with freedom taken. We don't start out with limitations, they are applied.

They are applied before something start to be massive ... I mean that alcohol and cigarates started to be widely accepted cultural phenomenom that's why they cannot be prohibited in direct way. Instead of that officials try to make a ban for smoking in almost every place besides your own house and you can buy alcohol (I don't mean here Poland) in limited places, soemtimes in limited amount (like in Sweden). Its obviouse that those 2 legal "drugs" are harmful and cost of health system is mlns each year... so it would be reasonable to ban them.

How do you feel about caffeine? Chocolate?

Chocolate won't make you schizophrenic... I think ;P ;)

How about sex? It's addictive, and you can get all kinds of nasty diseases.

Wait for a time when some paranoic addicted mug you on the street because of his voices in the head...

The only people to suffer any form of schizophrenia are those that already have it in their genes. Marijuana does not bring on schizophrenia and if you ever find research that proves me wrong then I'll eat my hat.

Exactly. And the problem is no one really knows what kind genes one have... Ppl who have bad genes can be perfectly healthy and never get ill in their entire life. But drugs makes them more prone to get ill. And that's true.

A freedom once give can of course be taken back just recently some legal drugs available in
zetigrek:
dopalacze
in Ireland
were made illegal, so a freedom can be abolished quite quickly actually.

Read the thing I've just written above. If something get too deep in culture in cant be abolished just that.

1. harmless, once smoked in it's natural form

So what? There are lots of specifics in nature which can harm you. The distinction between natural and not natural (chemical?) is often used as a comercial stunt and in the chemical point of view has nothing to do with substance toxicity...

2. Not addictive
3. Not a gateway drug

Some say it is, some say its not. Depends on a man. Of course it doesn't make so great social problems like other drugs (no one steal to get money for marihuana or sell one's body) but some ppl say it may make you lacking in motivation, memory problems or depressed if overused. And some ppl overuse it!
smurf  38 | 1940
2 Aug 2010   #273
Exactly. And the problem is no one really knows what kind genes one have...

Well you could look into your family history and find out if any of your ancestors was a sufferer of the mental illness

Read the thing I've just written above. If something get too deep in culture in cant be abolished just that.

I dont agree with you. What about things like arranged marriages, they were a part of life for hundreds of years and now it just doesn't happen. well, it still happens with gypseys and in some asian countries

So what? There are lots of specifics in nature which can harm you. The distinction between natural and not natural (chemical?) is often used as a comercial stunt and in the chemical point of view has nothing to do with substance toxicity...

Is this thing on....hello...hello...can you hear me.
Smoking weed so long as it's not mixed with tobacco is completely harmless and non-addictive. Hash can be harmful but check the posts above for the info on that.

Some say it is, some say its not.

Scientific research doesn't say that. And I'm with science not with what people simply say

make you lacking in motivation, memory problems or depressed if overused

Also not true, I'd like to know where you're getting your information, maybe you heard it on radio maria once, or seen it written in a newspaper so therefore it must be true.

If anything marijuana can help relieve the symptoms of depression and give motivation to people, especially writers/artists/musicians not to mention people suffering from painful illnesses when smoking some weed can really help curb some of their pain
Babinich  1 | 453
2 Aug 2010   #274
Yes. Drugs are drugs.

No; drugs are not drugs.

Smoking weed so long as it's not mixed with tobacco is completely harmless and non-addictive.

Wrong; Science News

and inhaling burned materials is bad for the lungs

June 19th 2010
lowfunk99  10 | 397
2 Aug 2010   #275
It should be illegal. Maybe its not as physically addicting as some drugs but it is still addicting.

What makes it dangerous is people don't deal with their issues and try to escape from everything.

It's not freedom to use drugs!!!!
A J  4 | 1075
2 Aug 2010   #276
Maybe its better than a great amount of ppl who can get addicted/ill because of easy access of drugs?

People won't have easy access at all, and the dose will be much smaller, the product will be a clean product, and not some home-cooked crack with traces of ammoniac and other chemicals in it.

Illegalness is still some king of obstacle in massive over-usage.

You couldn't be more wrong. (Or do you want to deny that some dealers push drugs on the schoolyards?)

No; drugs are not drugs.

Yes, drugs are drugs when you're talking about legalization in general, but of course I wasn't trying to sell the idea that every drug is the same. Your point?

Wait for a time when some paranoic addicted mug you on the street because of his voices in the head...

I see far less Junkies on the streets today than I used to see in 1995.

I had some contact with drugs so I think I know what I'm talking about.

I've had a lot of contact with drugs, but I've never used any kind of hard-drug or mushroom. I've smoked a couple of joints in my early teens and that's that.

(no one steal to get money for marihuana or sell one's body)

Because it's obviously not that addictive, and not that expensive either, because people can grow it on this continent and don't have to smuggle it over great distances. Consider this; If Canabis is legalized, then less people will use hard-drugs.

And ofcourse most people die because of alcohol abuse and traffic accidents because of alcohol. Should someone tell me to stop drinking one or two beers, just because someone else has been completely irresponsible? (Because this whole story comes down to personal responsibility.) Well, everyone should stop eating hamburgers aswell then if we're going to follow that logic, because there are obviously too many people who suffer from obesity, and these people cost their insurance companies millions of dollars because of health problems. I've got another great idea, let's all go back to kindergarten!

;P
zetigrek
2 Aug 2010   #277
Well you could look into your family history and find out if any of your ancestors was a sufferer of the mental illness

are you sure its so simple? what if noone has suffered and I will get an illness?

I dont agree with you. What about things like arranged marriages, they were a part of life for hundreds of years and now it just doesn't happen. well, it still happens with gypseys and in some asian countries

Try to ban alcohol and cigarets and you will see ppl on the streets demonstrating ;)

Because it's obviously not that addictive, and not that expensive either, because people can grow it on this continent and don't have to smuggle it over great distances. Consider this; If Canabis is legalized, then less people will use hard-drugs.

What would you say about extasy then? It also has its supporters who says its not addictng, not expensive... and almost healthy.
mvefa  5 | 591
2 Aug 2010   #278
I hope it comes sooner rather than later, because I don't want to be 50 years old and having to buy my weed off some ******* criminal and run the risk of being arrested for smoking a substance which has absolutely no proof whatsoever of being harmful.

isn't it a bit sad to be 50 and keep on with the weed? :p
convex  20 | 3928
2 Aug 2010   #279
Wrong; Science News
and inhaling burned materials is bad for the lungs

That's why vaporizers sell so well.

Try to ban alcohol and cigarets and you will see ppl on the streets demonstrating ;)

You'd see a massive increase in crime as well, for obvious reasons.

I favor the approach adopted by some countries in Asia: executing people who posses and sell drugs. This approach would eliminate the drug problem in Poland.

Actually, I think that you've just come up with the solution to poverty, world hunger, and out of control breeding as well.

I mean that alcohol and cigarates started to be widely accepted cultural phenomenom that's why they cannot be prohibited in direct way. Instead of that officials try to make a ban for smoking in almost every place besides your own house and you can buy alcohol (I don't mean here Poland) in limited places, soemtimes in limited amount (like in Sweden).

Better idea, fix the health care system, and make people responsible for their own decisions. This is why socialist health care ultimately must restrict personal freedom.

Chocolate won't make you schizophrenic... I think ;P ;)

Will give you diabetes... Keep in mind, everyone has a mental illness if you read what's on the label...
smurf  38 | 1940
2 Aug 2010   #280
Science News

bah Science News, can you give me a link to the article,
I searched for it but to no avail

are you sure its so simple? what if noone has suffered and I will get an illness?

Naw, maybe if you're like Syd Barrett and do a sh*t-load of acid, but for marijuana then it already needs to be in your genes

Try to ban alcohol and cigarets and you will see ppl on the streets demonstrating ;)

I wouldn't suggest that for a moment, cigarettes yea, i dont care about, but if they banned alcohol i'd move back home, naw you need alcohol, it's great. *in moderation of course*

isn't it a bit sad to be 50 and keep on with the weed? :p

not at all, but it's 20 years away so i'll let ya know when i turn 50

It's not freedom to use drugs!!!!

No, but the freedom to choose whether to use drugs is freedome, do you smoke cigarettes, drink booze or coffee, all drugs mi amigo.

Also why was the thread moved?
How much does marijuana cost is not what I started the thread about, I couldn't care less about the cost of weed, my OP was whether or not the Polish govt will be voting to legalise weed in the near future.
lowfunk99  10 | 397
2 Aug 2010   #281
NO, I don't drink or smoke or do any other drug.

After living in active addiction for years I can say that it's all bad.

I don't know of anyone who stopped that will say living in addiction is pleasurable or good.

The freedom to be an idiot! That's what choosing to use is.
smurf  38 | 1940
2 Aug 2010   #282
After living in active addiction for years I can say that it's all bad.

What were you addicted to?

Because it sure as hell wasn't weed
"Marijuana does not cause physical dependence."
drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#addictive
convex  20 | 3928
3 Aug 2010   #283
The freedom to be an idiot! That's what choosing to use is.

part of the anti caffeine/aspirin/sugar bunch eh?
LeeHughes  6 | 15
19 Aug 2010   #285
well i hope it kills you!!!!! Dugs are the scum of the earth and so are the people who take them, and no i'm not talking about those who have to take prescription drugs i'm talking about recreational drugs.

you mean like alcohol?
tornado2007  11 | 2270
19 Aug 2010   #286
yeah, if people are drinking too much of that as well, if people cannot control themselves then they deserve to pay the consiquences of their actions.

People on drugs, alcoholics, smokers etc etc get no sympathy as far as i'm concerned and neither should they get treatment if they hit problems, leave them to die in their own stupid world :)
convex  20 | 3928
22 Aug 2010   #287
NO, I don't drink or smoke or do any other drug.

No coffee, tea, chocolate?

People on drugs, alcoholics, smokers etc etc get no sympathy as far as i'm concerned and neither should they get treatment if they hit problems, leave them to die in their own stupid world :)

Yes, yes, exactly! Leave them alone unless they harm others, in which case punish them for what they did wrong.
smurf  38 | 1940
22 Aug 2010   #288
as far as i'm concerned and neither should they get treatment if they hit problems, leave them to die in their own stupid world :)

yea puttin a smiley face at the end means you're not really a nazi.
pfft!

if a person needs help to get off drugs then the state has a moral obligation to help them get rid of the god-awful crux afflicting them.

Sure with your logic I suppose we shouldn't even have wheel-chair accessible buses.
lowfunk99  10 | 397
23 Aug 2010   #289
No coffee, tea, chocolate?

Give me a break....

I am still addicted to caffeine.
convex  20 | 3928
23 Aug 2010   #290
Give me a break....

My brother doesn't do stimulants of any kind. He doesn't like the effect or the comedown.

if a person needs help to get off drugs then the state has a moral obligation to help them get rid of the god-awful crux afflicting them.

And where does the state stop with that? Does the state have a moral obligation to provide counseling after ending a relationship? How about advice on buying a home?

Let adults make their own decisions.
Chicago Pollock  7 | 503
24 Aug 2010   #291
smurf

1. harmless, once smoked in it's natural form
2. Not addictive
3. Not a gateway drug

1. Nonsense, no drugs are harmless.

2 & 3. It's a depressant. All drugs have side effects. Severity of side effects depends on the individual.

smurf

Plus it's the most peaceful drug ever, you'll never hear of a stoner getting arrested ifor fighting or hitting somebody or causing damage to property, unlike with alcohol

That's the problem, it's a depressant and what does one do when they're depressed? Withdraw.

Didn't you post something about lack of social success in Poland? Well maybe if you're a habitual mary jane user you may want to lay off for awhile and see if things change.
Chiclets  - | 4
4 Oct 2010   #292
Where I can get hash in Gdansk? !!
andi81  - | 2
22 Oct 2010   #293
potheads behave like retards
Teffle  22 | 1318
22 Oct 2010   #294
. Nonsense, no drugs are harmless.

2 & 3. It's a depressant. All drugs have side effects. Severity of side effects depends on the individual.

Agree 100%.

I speak from personal experience when I say that prolongued marijuana use can damage you psychologically - and permanently.
Olaf  6 | 955
22 Oct 2010   #295
Is the cannabis high quality? Hydroponic, indoor soil or outdoor? Wat is the penalty for being caught with a small sac under 8 grams of marijuana in poland? Seeing as how poland is poor can u buy off the police like u can in mexico? Is it difficult to obtain marijuana in poland?

It costs up to 3 years in suspension:). And you're dumb as a brick.
FlaglessPole  4 | 649
22 Oct 2010   #296
I saw the original article while back in 2005, here is a quote pertaining to it:

An analysis of research studies with long-term, recreational users of marijuana has failed to reveal a substantial, systematic effect on the neurocognitive functioning of users. According to researchers at the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) School of Medicine, the only deleterious side effect found was a minimal malfunction in the domains of learning and forgetting.
The findings were particularly significant considering the movement by several states to make cannabis (marijuana) available as a medicinal drug, and questions regarding its potential toxicity over long-term usage.

alcoholism.about

So in short cannabis seem to affect the short term memory essential for learning capabilities, the original article also mentions that the short term memory does come back to normal provided the subject quits pot smoking. Feel free to google it up, this study really made waves when it came out 5 years ago. As for the schizophrenia and the so called hash psychosis it seems like one would have to be predisposed to that.

Hell some people would probably go mental from staring at an elevator, especially if they were standing at the bottom of the elevator shaft and the lift, its cables corroded from the cannabis fumes, was about to drop...
Szwajda  - | 1
11 Jan 2011   #297
it's 30pln per 1g skunk, and 20pln per 1g of homemade plants.
If you want to buy more then you pay less of money, for example
-120pln for 5g ect.

Stuff is good, but it's not as strong as like in Holand.

yes, it's difficult for obtain marihuana, but if you are older, and from another country you won't to have a problem.

you don't want to meet police with weed in case in poland :))
WallumpieNL  - | 1
21 Mar 2011   #298
Hello,

I'm a guy from holland, i just sold some weed to a polish guy.
The price i sold it for is 2,50 euro. It was grown outside.
I'm just curious what te selling price in poland is?
Can anybody tell me a bit about weed price in poland!
And if anybody has a question about weed ask me, i think ill know everyting ;)

Thx!
Stoned
16 Apr 2011   #299
Where can I buy Marijuana i Warsaw? Any body knows this?
JonnyM  11 | 2607
16 Apr 2011   #300
ul. Wilcza 21. There's a sign over the door saying 'komisariat'. Ask in there.


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